No surprises here unless last year was the surprise.

CHAMPION DATA’S 2020 AFL LIST RANKINGS

1. Richmond
2. Western Bulldogs
3. Collingwood
4. GWS Giants
5. West Coast
6. North Melbourne
7. Geelong
8. Port Adelaide
9. Essendon
10. Hawthorn
11. Brisbane
12. Melbourne
13. St Kilda
14. Sydney
15. Adelaide
16. Carlton
17. Fremantle
18. Gold Coast

MELBOURNE

Champion Data overall list rating: 12th

List rating for 2019: 1st

Player breakdown

- Elite: 1

- Above average: 6

- Average: 12

- Below average: 6

- Poor: 4

CHAMPION DATA’S 2019 AFL LIST RANKINGS

1. Melbourne
2. Adelaide
3. Richmond
4. Essendon
5. Collingwood
6. Geelong
7. GWS Giants
8. North Melbourne
9. Hawthorn
10. Brisbane
11. West Coast
12. Port Adelaide
13. Sydney
14. St Kilda
15. Western Bulldogs
16. Carlton
17. Fremantle
18. Gold Coast

I see this as a positive

North Melbourne have a better list than us, champion data lists are rediculous, don’t take enough variables into account 

North are 6 places above Brisbane

I think that sums up how useful this list is.

7 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

I see this as a positive

I assume you mean judging on their past rankings. I agree.

The article is also factually incorrect as it states "Melbourne was the big slider in the rankings year on year". Adelaide actually slid 13 spots from 2 to 15 and we only slid 11 spots from 1 to 12.

8 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

I see this as a positive

We only need to worry if Kane Cornes predicts us to win the flag.

For those who follow these things which individual MFC players went up in the rankings during 2019.

Thanks

9 minutes ago, Demonland said:

We only need to worry if Kane Cornes predicts us to win the flag.

We don’t need to worry DL, Cornes has named the 6 teams that can win it and we are not one of them. 

And C Data had the Bulldogs at 15 in 2019, 2nd this year.

1 minute ago, Dee Zephyr said:

We don’t need to worry DL, Cornes has named the 6 teams that can win it and we are not one of them. 

Data shmata. 

Win games, rest is fodder.

15 minutes ago, Demonland said:

?

We have a better list this year but have slid back to 12.

Intereresting...

I guess it all makes for a good talking point but as with last years rankings it has no actual relevance into how the season will pan out.

1 hour ago, sue said:

I assume you mean judging on their past rankings. I agree.

Yes , champion data and the Media's treating the stats/rankings they come up with as gospel annoys the crap out of me

If we only finish 12th next year i will eat my hat.

Put that list right next to the one showing games lost to injury and see how it looks.

Piffle.

"Melbourne was the big slider in the rankings year on year. The Demons were rated the best list before last season but are 12th entering 2020."

"The rankings are based purely on individual talent and are not linked to overall team statistics or system.

Champion Data’s new ratings formula this year takes into account individual players’ output, game time, what position they play, what they contribute to each position, durability and how likely they are to be selected."

 

Champion Data's 2020 Rankings

 

Edited December 5, 20195 yr by Lord Nev

Interesting that arguably our list has improved on last season yet we have dropped so far in the rankings.

1 minute ago, ben russell said:

Interesting that arguably our list has improved on last season yet we have dropped so far in the rankings.

The "durability" and "how likely they are to be selected" would be massive factors for us after last year's horrendous injury run and how many changes we made week on week IMO.

 

totally meaningless. 

10 minutes ago, ben russell said:

Interesting that arguably our list has improved on last season yet we have dropped so far in the rankings.

Garlett and Lewis probably had great statistical value last year despite being completely finished. I wonder how they’ve valued Jones.

The good news is apart from Gawn who surely can’t go up another level again we have so many players who can improve. 

Not sure the Dogs are 2nd but I think they belong in the top 5. After that the gap between 6-17 can’t be all that wide. North won 10 games, Freo won 9. Unless Hill and Langdon are now Judd and Ablett the gap between the lists can’t be all that big.

Edited December 5, 20195 yr by DeeSpencer

North at number 6 gave me a chuckle.

Bulldogs at number 2 almost as outrageous.

Thank fook for that. 

I will enjoy the fireworks if Carlton finishes 3rd last again.

Wish we had the bulldogs list. Reckon they will win a couple of flags over the next 5 years.