New List Manager - Tim Lamb?

[mo64 5,910]

Of all the bewildering trades over the past 3 years, re-signing Schache for another year takes the cake.

[Greg Schneider 1,018]

30 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

McAdam for a future second round draft pick, probably in the late 20's, is now looking like an atrocious trade by Lamb. Credit to some posters on DL who at the time who thought we paid too much.

Shocking. Deep draft this year too. He’s 30 next year already! Why we would opt out of a Liam Henry trade and bring this guy in instead is beyond me. Mcadam will retire and Henry will play for another 8 years. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,679]

You get assessed on actions and outcomes.  Lamb is tracking for a F grade outcome. Fail.  Unsure how he would keep his role going forward. Fyi Josh Mahoney delivered excellent trades and success.  

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,551]

33 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

Shocking. Deep draft this year too. He’s 30 next year already! Why we would opt out of a Liam Henry trade and bring this guy in instead is beyond me. Mcadam will retire and Henry will play for another 8 years. 

And what's worse is Adelaide reportedly tried to fleece more out of us than just a second rounder, so I'll give Lamb a slight bit of credit for not giving up anything more for McAdam.

[ANG13 2,110]

27 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

You get assessed on actions and outcomes.  Lamb is tracking for a F grade outcome. Fail.  Unsure how he would keep his role going forward. Fyi Josh Mahoney delivered excellent trades and success.  

Would there be any chance JM would come back? I think he would jump at the opportunity to work for a club again, not sure about us though. 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,825]

16 hours ago, kozzyisalegend said:

𝗜𝗡𝗦: Tom Fullarton (Brisbane), Shane McAdam (Adelaide), Jack Billings (St Kilda) 𝗢𝗨𝗧𝗦: James Jordon (Sydney), James Harmes (Western Bulldogs), Brodie Grundy (Sydney)

 

Disastrous trade period from Tim lamb, we are now starting to feel the effects

It's definitely cost us a tilt at top 4.

Red flags should have been in the air with Mcadam, I thought he would be a great get but not even the great man Darren Burgess couldn't get him on the track consistently.

Edited July 23, 2024 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[whatwhat say what 23,857]

1 hour ago, ANG13 said:

Would there be any chance JM would come back? I think he would jump at the opportunity to work for a club again, not sure about us though. 

absolutely none unless it's as ceo

more likely to stay at head office now he's part of the crew

[Watson11 2,252]

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

You get assessed on actions and outcomes.  Lamb is tracking for a F grade outcome. Fail.  Unsure how he would keep his role going forward. Fyi Josh Mahoney delivered excellent trades and success.  

Lamb and Mahoney had different jobs.  Did you mean to compare Lamb and Viney Snr?

[At the break of Gawn 4,513]

He's probably not gettable, but Graham Wright did an incredible job in the couple of years he was at Collingwood before he went on his sabbatical/basically retired. Pretty much nailed every trade they got in.

[drysdale demon 4,837]

5 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

You get assessed on actions and outcomes.  Lamb is tracking for a F grade outcome. Fail.  Unsure how he would keep his role going forward. Fyi Josh Mahoney delivered excellent trades and success.  

Lamb took over Todd Viney's job. The doesn't just entail trades it also includes movement of draft choices which he hasn't been too bad at.

[poita 3,944]

Lamb has been a massive failure from both a personnel and a contract perspective, whilst we have been a top 4 side. 

How is he going to attract and retain top end talent if we drop out of finals contention when he can't do it now? 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

There is a mini reset due in the footy dept. we just have to have a fresh start on field and off. And I fear These guys will be making more trade moves that will hurt us for years to come.

Hunter, Shache , McAdam, Fullerton, Billing’s In

Jordon, Grundy Out

are just some of the work in the last 3 years. 
 

I know hindsight is a gift, but that is an abysmal record.  

[Nascent 9,345]

In defence of Lamb, our priority was clearly re-signing our premiership team which he did well. We secured Petracca, Oliver, Pickett, JvR, Lever, Rivers, Brayshaw among others in what we hoped would keep our core team together for a long time to challenge. This can be picked apart in hindsight, in particular the Brayshaw deal and Oliver's issues, but it was clearly a well supported move that most here were happy about.

As such, we were playing on the fringes of trades with what salary cap we had left. Players left for more opportunity and we had limited salary cap with our stars signed up long term, so we scouted the fringes of teams of what we could afford. Were there other targets that could have improved our list or provided better depth, most definetely. Could we afford them from a salary cap position and did they want to come to us with best 22 spots limited and the prospect of spending the majority of time in the two's? That's another question.

The good news (sort of) is we have best 22 spots opening up on the list and salary cap space now to hopefully lure some talent. 

[Adam The God 30,733]

Well, he's re-signed Petty and Windsor, so it's not all bad. Well done, TL.

Link incoming. Source, MFC socials.

Edited July 23, 2024 by Binmans PA

[old55 23,860]

17 minutes ago, Nascent said:

In defence of Lamb, our priority was clearly re-signing our premiership team which he did well. We secured Petracca, Oliver, Pickett, JvR, Lever, Rivers, Brayshaw among others in what we hoped would keep our core team together for a long time to challenge. This can be picked apart in hindsight, in particular the Brayshaw deal and Oliver's issues, but it was clearly a well supported move that most here were happy about.

As such, we were playing on the fringes of trades with what salary cap we had left. Players left for more opportunity and we had limited salary cap with our stars signed up long term, so we scouted the fringes of teams of what we could afford. Were there other targets that could have improved our list or provided better depth, most definetely. Could we afford them from a salary cap position and did they want to come to us with best 22 spots limited and the prospect of spending the majority of time in the two's? That's another question.

The good news (sort of) is we have best 22 spots opening up on the list and salary cap space now to hopefully lure some talent. 

Too true, i'll take the critics seriously when they link me to their posts slamming Petracca, Oliver, Pickett, JvR, Lever, Rivers re-contracting.

We haven't missed Jordon and Harmes and Grundy had to go.

[kozzyisalegend 152]

1 hour ago, old55 said:

Too true, i'll take the critics seriously when they link me to their posts slamming Petracca, Oliver, Pickett, JvR, Lever, Rivers re-contracting.

We haven't missed Jordon and Harmes and Grundy had to go.

Why did Grundy have to go? He was contracted

[spirit of norm smith 16,679]

Tim Lamb is front and centre to all trade talk discussion around the MFC posts, media etc and the AFL posts, media etc.

Definitely responsible and accountable for trades (as well as Goody). 

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1453491/list-boss-excited-by-fullarton-potential

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/1232733/2022-trade-period-media-conference-tim-lamb?videoId=1232733&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1664775876001

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/1454073/trade-period-tim-lamb?videoId=1454073&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1697688629001

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1023592/lamb

Agree role also involves signing up players contracts which included long term deals for Trac, Clarry and Gus.  

[Demonsone 2,056]

 

14 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

There is a mini reset due in the footy dept. we just have to have a fresh start on field and off. And I fear These guys will be making more trade moves that will hurt us for years to come.

Hunter, Shache , McAdam, Fullerton, Billing’s In

Jordon, Grundy Out

are just some of the work in the last 3 years. 
 

I know hindsight is a gift, but that is an abysmal record.  

What’s occurred in the last 3 trades is mind boggling and back flip on Grundy, letting Jordan go knowing Brayshaw possible retirement and also Harmes, instead of improving our list to win another flag we have gone backwards 

[beelzebub 23,392]

16 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Lamb took over Todd Viney's job. The doesn't just entail trades it also includes movement of draft choices which he hasn't been too bad at.

But it DOES  entail Trades. Given they are current players they afford the most potential for list improvements. 

By any metric we're failing badly.

Ergo he deserves to be Lambasted.

Mark his card 'done' imo.

[drysdale demon 4,837]

3 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

But it DOES  entail Trades. Given they are current players they afford the most potential for list improvements. 

By any metric we're failing badly.

Ergo he deserves to be Lambasted.

Mark his card 'done' imo.

Only if you say so beezle.

[beelzebub 23,392]

1 minute ago, drysdale demon said:

Only if you say so beezle.

You think the trades have gone well ?? 

[Pipefitter 2,234]

We’ve lost players who are AFL standard and replaced them with VFL standard players. Big part of why we are being so exposed right now . 

[BangBnagBang 773]

22 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

McAdam for a future second round draft pick, probably in the late 20's, is now looking like an atrocious trade by Lamb. Credit to some posters on DL who at the time who thought we paid too much.

There's a whiff of rebuild about our club at the moment, and not having a second rounder heading into the trade and draft period is disappointing.

Not fussed about the Billings trade as we gave up nothing for him and he played some good games in March.

Fullarton was a big fail considering he was supposed to be out back up ruck when we needed him the most, but yeah whatever.

 

we have a second round draft pick but be disappointed if you want

[Jibroni 5,057]

16 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

There is a mini reset due in the footy dept. we just have to have a fresh start on field and off. And I fear These guys will be making more trade moves that will hurt us for years to come.

Hunter, Shache , McAdam, Fullerton, Billing’s In

Jordon, Grundy Out

are just some of the work in the last 3 years. 
 

I know hindsight is a gift, but that is an abysmal record.  

 

Hunter was good last season but seems his body is now getting the worse of him. Grundy was worth the risk and have no issues with that trade.

Yes It is easy to look back in hindsight, but if we recruited Meek and Henry things would be different.

 

Edited July 23, 2024 by Jibroni

[Demonstone 23,575]

1 hour ago, Demonsone said:

letting Jordan go

Thank you for your weekly cut and paste that you know is not even true.

I noticed that you went missing after we beat Essendon, only to bob up again after we lost to Fremantle.

Haven't you got a bridge somewhere you could be lurking under?