Trengove delisted

[dice 684]

Will never forget how hard he was in his younger days (before his foot injury). This epitomised his toughness:

 

 

Unsurprisingly being a Melbourne player and first time offender, he got 3 weeks for that. Also thanks in part to Dangerfield's acting and testimony (mind you, Dangerfield played the following week and kicked 6 goals).

 

Edited September 25, 2019 by dice

[Ethan Tremblay 30,480]

Three weeks for that?! 

[Sir Why You Little 36,761]

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

But look at the list they were gifted. They were created to be successful quickly, not like the rest of us who developed slowly.

They were given so many top players, that as they traded the surplus, they got more high picks to pick the best again in the next seasons.

They were always going to succeed.

Yes I know all that. But we also were given some solid help to improve and a lot of it we burnt

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,664]

12 hours ago, Demonsone said:

What’s pathetic is the acceptance of mediocrity the mfc has dished out the last 55 years...

I'm unclear what this comment is doing in a thread about Jack Trengove being delisted at Port Adelaide. Seems a bit off topic.

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

13 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

Nobody accepts mediocrity,  not sure which bit you both don't get, me personally I was appalled by what was dished up in some games, but I still support the club

What I don't accept is you two taking the opportunity in every thread to whinge and whine,

it's BORING

Go and do something else if it [censored] you that much

Jack Trengove was cruelled by injury and the game changed whilst he was out

At least he played AFL, top guy, very.knowledgeable on footy, hope he is not lost to the game

Demonsone was spot on with his post.  Trenners was made captain, along with Jack Grimes at a time when the club  was seriously maladministered and it did set us back a long time.  It shot his confidence and then injury soon followed.  Some on here might not want to accept that, but it is simply the reality.

Back then, securing draft picks seemed to be all that mattered and even then, that administration could not even get that right.  We did not have a culture of development from within and we are paying for it now.

[Demonsone 2,014]

13 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

Nobody accepts mediocrity,  not sure which bit you both don't get, me personally I was appalled by what was dished up in some games, but I still support the club

What I don't accept is you two taking the opportunity in every thread to whinge and whine,

it's BORING

Go and do something else if it [censored] you that much

Jack Trengove was cruelled by injury and the game changed whilst he was out

At least he played AFL, top guy, very.knowledgeable on footy, hope he is not lost to the game

Not having a crack at the player... having a crack at our development & how so many picks have failed & our club sits were it is! Yet each year I buy a membership in hope the club will break its 55 yr drought 

[hemingway 7,615]

Fact- Jack's career was affected and terminally damaged by injury.

Speculation-Jack's development and career was mismanaged by the MFC.

We have many examples of sportsmen and women whose career has been cut short by serious foot injuries. With Jack the impact was seen through missed games and diminished speed. Pure speculation that his journey would have been different if he had been drafted by another club at the beginning of his career. 

What we do know is that he was an outstanding junior, showed enormous potential in his first season (more than Scully) and that he was an outstanding young man. He has carried himself with dignity and humility over the years. 

[tiers 2,813]

Was a deserved number 2 pick but sadly ruined by injury.

The decision of the club in appointing him captain may have been unwise but it did not cause his injury problems.

A fine young man who should be welcomed back to the club at any time.

His experience with adversity might help others to overcome theirs.

[Diamond_Jim 12,395]

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

Fact- Jack's career was affected and terminally damaged by injury.

Speculation-Jack's development and career was mismanaged by the MFC.

We have many examples of sportsmen and women whose career has been cut short by serious foot injuries. With Jack the impact was seen through missed games and diminished speed. Pure speculation that his journey would have been different if he had been drafted by another club at the beginning of his career. 

What we do know is that he was an outstanding junior, showed enormous potential in his first season (more than Scully) and that he was an outstanding young man. He has carried himself with dignity and humility over the years. 

the failure to correctly diagnose his foot injury which was found in days if not minutes by the Richmond medicos is sadly reflective of this club. It's never been explained.

Would it have been different if earlier diagnosed. Who knows.. probably not but we all know it was a major fail.

[John Crow Batty 8,832]

He was a better captain than Jones. Unselfish player cruelled by bad luck.

Edited September 26, 2019 by america de cali

[Redleg 40,445]

5 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes I know all that. But we also were given some solid help to improve and a lot of it we burnt

We were given a PP or 2. That is nothing like what GWS got. They got given the tools for a Flag. It may eventuate on saturday.

[Redleg 40,445]

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

Fact- Jack's career was affected and terminally damaged by injury.

Speculation-Jack's development and career was mismanaged by the MFC.

We have many examples of sportsmen and women whose career has been cut short by serious foot injuries. With Jack the impact was seen through missed games and diminished speed. Pure speculation that his journey would have been different if he had been drafted by another club at the beginning of his career. 

What we do know is that he was an outstanding junior, showed enormous potential in his first season (more than Scully) and that he was an outstanding young man. He has carried himself with dignity and humility over the years. 

Correct.

Most would agree Geelong is a well run club.

Well clearly they aren't, because Matt Egan's career was cut short by injury.

Essendon has just stuffed Daniher.

Sydney has stuffed Buddy.

Freo has stuffed Jesse.

The Pies stuffed Daniel Wells, Dunn and Goldsack.

Unless you can show that a club actually injured a player or made his injury worse and then career threatening, it is a bit rich to blame the club.

So I agree with you Ernie.

[hemingway 7,615]

58 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

the failure to correctly diagnose his foot injury which was found in days if not minutes by the Richmond medicos is sadly reflective of this club. It's never been explained.

Would it have been different if earlier diagnosed. Who knows.. probably not but we all know it was a major fail.

This is a possible scenario. 

However, foot injuries are notoriously difficult to pick up even on CT and ultrasound. Sometimes they don’t show up. Also the nature and severity of the injury and diagnosis can change with the effluxion of time. What Richmond picked up may not have been evident at an earlier stage. Also we do not know how Jack presented. It would not have been the first time a player downplayed an injury or discomfort. 

[Lord Travis 10,542]

Injury ruined his career. His first few years were amongst the best by a youngster in my lifetime by a Melbourne player. He was set to become a superstar. Had the hardness, skill, leadership, but mostly game-sense you cannot teach. Reminded me a lot of James Hird how he played. He was neck and neck with Dusty Martin until injury and captaincy.

A real shame to have his career pan out the way it did.

Best of luck in future Trenners!

[Sir Why You Little 36,761]

58 minutes ago, Redleg said:

We were given a PP or 2. That is nothing like what GWS got. They got given the tools for a Flag. It may eventuate on saturday.

Yes I know all that. And we wasted so many opportunities of our own

[waynewussell 5,002]

I think Greg Healy was a better captain than Robert Flower... after all, We averaged 15 wins a season under Healy and only 8 wins a season under Robbie... Furthermore,  Robbie was always hanging out 20 metres from the forward contest waiting for the ball to come out for him to score a cheapie.

[DeeSpencer 24,973]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

the failure to correctly diagnose his foot injury which was found in days if not minutes by the Richmond medicos is sadly reflective of this club. It's never been explained.

Would it have been different if earlier diagnosed. Who knows.. probably not but we all know it was a major fail.

The most likely situation with all of that was that he got scans for the medical that showed re-injury before he had started experiencing symptoms.  

There's a chance of incompetence in not checking but it might've just been he was doing well in recovery and another scan wasn't on the surgeons plan. By putting him up for trade we'd already admitted he wasn't going to be the player we hoped so in some ways we weren't totally stupid.

Surgeons, physios and doctors all collaborate for rehab plans, it's hard to blame the club. Where the club seemed to fail was having so many foot injuries to begin with. Injury prevention and managing game time is what the club staff are there for. The management of long term chronic injuries usually includes surgeons and other specialists.

The same Tigers excellent medical team gave the tick of approval to Chris Yarran when he was hooked on ice so it's not like they were flawless.

 

[P-man 13,366]

He was killing it in the SANFL this year. Racking up numbers for fun. Suns could do a lot worse than Trenners. Just sayin.

All the best to him if this is the end. Demon for life.

[P-man 13,366]

8 hours ago, dice said:

Will never forget how hard he was in his younger days (before his foot injury). This epitomised his toughness:

 

 

Unsurprisingly being a Melbourne player and first time offender, he got 3 weeks for that. Also thanks in part to Dangerfield's acting and testimony (mind you, Dangerfield played the following week and kicked 6 goals).

 

I remember this well. Three weeks was a farcical penalty.

He was/is a nuggety little bastard. When I met him (while drunk off my [censored]) I was struck by just how solid he is. Pretty amusing seeing him fling someone of Danger's size like a ragdoll.

[Robbie57 2,003]

Best of Luck Trenners, always a Dee for mine. 

[bing181 9,154]

31 minutes ago, P-man said:

He was killing it in the SANFL this year. Racking up numbers for fun.

Phenomenal. And not just the possessions,  the tackles and clearances are also right up there. OK, lower level league, but still.

https://sanfl.com.au/league/clubs/port-adelaide/280608/?league=sanfl&season=2019

[pitmaster 3,483]

21 hours ago, Demonsone said:

 

Port Adelaide delists one-time Melbourne captain Jack Trengove after two years at Alberton
http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-09-25/former-no2-draft-pick-among-trio-of-power-cuts

 

Very sad & a reflection of how poor & pathetic our footy club had become ..  a club more obsessed on securing early draft picks & thinking they would just develop, rather than building programs & systems to develop players whether pick 1 or 50., set club back 10+ years 

You clearly weren't around when his career was derailed by injury.

[Neil Crompton 5,352]

58 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

I think Greg Healy was a better captain than Robert Flower... after all, We averaged 15 wins a season under Healy and only 8 wins a season under Robbie... Furthermore,  Robbie was always hanging out 20 metres from the forward contest waiting for the ball to come out for him to score a cheapie.

Two things:

- this thread is about Trengove - what’s this got to do with him?

- you are a brave man to be making those sort of comments about Mr Flower on this site. You might be shot.

[waynewussell 5,002]

50 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Two things:

- this thread is about Trengove - what’s this got to do with him?

- you are a brave man to be making those sort of comments about Mr Flower on this site. You might be shot.

You need to look a little deeper NC... I was highlighting how ridiculous sweeping, unsubstantiated opinions are. I used a direct quote from another poster who has a track record on such matters.

[DSP 1,488]

Thrust into a position he was never ready for with Frank Grimes. Appauling by our club.

That and his foot killed his career.

Played some ripper games at the G in his 2nd year. Could of been a star.

All the best Trenners!