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Welcome to Demonland: Taj Woewodin


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9 minutes ago, leucopogon said:

I texted into SportFM a few months back when they were interviewing Shane and had them ask him how his boys were tracking and if father-son was an option with the Dees. He said only one of the boys is still playing, Taj, and is currently in Year 12 at Aquinas and playing for East Fremantle Colts too (not sure if this is the case still). Said that he isn't pushing his son in any particular direction, but has told him the kind of work needed to make it into an AFL list and the rest is up to him. Certainly didn't rule out the possibility of father-son but didn't mention anything specific about MFC recruiters keeping tabs on him or anything like that.

Reckon we could do worse then draft (maybe rookie) a father son in a year where there's little to no exposed form for the under 18's and it's going to be an even bigger lottery then normal.

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However these discussions unfortunately invariably devolve into areas that may be defamatory, libelous, spread unsubstantiated rumours & can effect the mental health of those involved. Even discussion & debate of known facts or media reports can lead to finger pointing, blame & personal attacks.

The repercussion is that these discussions can open this website, it’s owners & it’s users to legal action & may result in this website being forced to shutdown.

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On 9/3/2019 at 8:45 PM, dieter said:

That's one way of looking at it. They basically did the dirty on a very talented and loyal player. Tell me how many Demons - apart from Moore and Wilson, both imports - have won a Brownlow. Ok, there's the great Jimma, who else?

Hardly "did the dirty". Woewy's management screwed us into an exorbitant deal for him.  This happened because Farmer had just left for Freo so we couldn't be seen to lose 2 marquee players at once & so paid way over the odds for him.  He was a good solid player who had an outstanding year.  Its a bit like the current Polec situation. If his management had been reasonable he would have played out his career at the Dees.

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2 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

Hardly "did the dirty". Woewy's management screwed us into an exorbitant deal for him.  This happened because Farmer had just left for Freo so we couldn't be seen to lose 2 marquee players at once & so paid way over the odds for him.  He was a good solid player who had an outstanding year.  Its a bit like the current Polec situation. If his management had been reasonable he would have played out his career at the Dees.

 

From Woewodin's and his management's point of view, Melbourne definitely didn't deal with them fairly.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/165520/the-day-the-dees-traded-a-brownlow-medallist?videoId=165520&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1476318392001

 

 

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On 9/4/2019 at 4:30 PM, Leoncelli_36 said:

You are spot on. He definitely had his kids in Dees jumpers in a lap of honour at the G. 

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/PZhChmz5L21PQq7M9

Yeah vividly remember this. It was sour after he left but time helped in mending the wounds. I also remember reading an interview in The Age towards the end of his last year at Collingwood when they weren't going to renew his contract and he was basically saying how he was super keen on a return to the club and wanted to have a chat with Neale to see how he could fit into the side. 

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On 9/3/2019 at 10:40 PM, Pennant St Dee said:

Be a great story but we shall wait and see, East Freo had quite a young Colts side this season but that's common for WAFL clubs to build sides over a 2 to 3 year period and to play a  lot of their younger squad members towards the end of the season.

North Freo had a win in A Grade Elimination final last weekend and come up against CBC Freo in a derby final this week.

Woey's a great bloke and great football person. He's built strong cultures wherever he's been and very professional in his approach. He's not short of job offers and think he may move on at seasons end 

And as others have said, time and exposure to the coaching side of the game have helped heal some wounds.

Are the colts going back to U19s next season like the NAB league in Victoria?

 

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31 minutes ago, drdrake said:

Are the colts going back to U19s next season like the NAB league in Victoria?

 

Not to my knowledge and on Taj, coming along nicely.

Like his dad really good work ethic and IMO will develop nicely 

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1 hour ago, MadAsHell said:

Reckon we could do worse then draft (maybe rookie) a father son in a year where there's little to no exposed form for the under 18's and it's going to be an even bigger lottery then normal.

Over in the West the lads at PSA are playing every week. Aquinas play this week and a win would have them win the Alcock Cup with Scotch. 
I am sure the scouts have monitored PSA and colts. Be interesting if any one knows much. Guildford Grammar have 5-6 lads that would be worth a look in the next few years.

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2 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

 

From Woewodin's and his management's point of view, Melbourne definitely didn't deal with them fairly.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/165520/the-day-the-dees-traded-a-brownlow-medallist?videoId=165520&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1476318392001

 

 

I can't watch that now but my recollection was that we asked him to take a pay cut otherwise we'd need to trade him, he said no, so we did the deal, and he got surprised and said he works have actually taken a play cut if he thought we were serious. 

Does that ring true?

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Was on the could-a-beens last weekend, coaching North Fremantle in the WA amateurs. They didn't probe him too hard there didn't seem to be any issues. Was enormously thankful for the opportunity Melbourne gave him after missing on 2(?) drafts. Found out on holiday he was traded which he said he didn't see coming. But loved his time at both Melbourne and Collingwood. Seemed like a genuinely nice fella, most guests on the could-a-beens are down to earth they don't stuff around much with the egos. Paul Spargo was another good interview...

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4 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

How do parents come up with these names ?

Maybe his middle name is Mahal? Why do you ask, Two Dogs?

Anyone know if Taj is eligible for this year's draft or next year?

Also, what's the age of Stynes jnr or White jnr?

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36 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Doesn't Jeff White also have a Taj coming through?

I wonder how many we can collect?  (If any)

Yep, and the club are keeping a close eye on this one.

A lot of water still to go under the bridge, but a promising junior so far.

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2 hours ago, deanox said:

I can't watch that now but my recollection was that we asked him to take a pay cut otherwise we'd need to trade him, he said no, so we did the deal, and he got surprised and said he works have actually taken a play cut if he thought we were serious. 

Does that ring true?

His version is he didn't get a chance to take a cut.
Club said he needed to take a cut, he and his manger were discussing it, manager was putting a proposal together whilst Woey was on the end of season trip, then the club traded him to Collingwood before they had the chance to negotiate.

Daniher says at the end of the vid that the salary cap was so tight, that someone simply had to go and that cutting Woewodin allowed them to keep: Yze, Johnstone and offer contracts to Robertson, Powell, James McDonald and Chris Lamb.
 

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1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

How do parents come up with these names ?

Parents from back then wanting to be "individuals" and not bound by society  rules.      or just smoking too much .

 

Bit like the parents from the 70's

 

i before e except after c

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1 hour ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

How do parents come up with these names ?

My only concern.It's not a solid name.For once I agree with you.DO not select.

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