On 09/08/2019 at 12:10, McQueen said:

How the [censored] can a club have eleventy zillion first round picks and still be so [censored]?

Not many of them want to put their body in line with the ball.

In the first half when conditions were tough they would put a hand out and the Hawks ran in straight lines.

It was some of their stars like Cameron & particularly Whitfield that were the biggest culprits.

Surprisingly I would also add Mumford to the list, not committing himself at the contest. He's playing for his super and very little else...tip toeing around like a baby elephant.

Davis, Hayne, Shaw & Green the only ones having a go.

What a shocking game this is. 

Nothing exciting happens. 4 goals for an entire game. 

Cameron is a Coach under the Radar

This really is a disgraceful performance by the giants tonight. 

  On 09/08/2019 at 12:18, rjay said:

Not many of them want to put their body in line with the ball.

In the first half when conditions were tough they would put a hand out and the Hawks ran in straight lines.

It was some of their stars like Cameron & particularly Whitfield that were the biggest culprits.

Surprisingly I would also add Mumford to the list, not committing himself at the contest. He's playing for his super and very little else...tip toeing around like a baby elephant.

Davis, Hayne, Shaw & Green the only ones having a go.

And the coach??

  On 09/08/2019 at 12:10, McQueen said:

How the [censored] can a club have eleventy zillion first round picks and still be so [censored]?

Talent alone does not make a successful team....  GWS conclusively proved that. Teams need to be developed and the right culture put in place.

So apparently they kicked there lowest score ever tonight. I know they have injuries but they still have talent out there. 4 goals and none in the 2nd half. That is just disgraceful and only 1 mark inside 50. I just wonder if the giants will ever get to the big stage let alone win one while they have all this talent on there list. 

Gee I thought we were bad. 

  On 09/08/2019 at 10:29, whatwhatsaywhat said:

Manuka

Very different sort of snow at Metricon on the Gold Coast

Mumford is in his element 

Manuka, Metricon, Mumford, Melbourne...Meh!

GWS totally outplayed. Interesting to see Yze in the Hawks coaches box at the end. Is there anyway we can get him back home next season to help Goody with some Clarko IP? 

  On 09/08/2019 at 12:22, McQueen said:

And the coach??

Interesting comments about Clarkson waltzing around without a shirt on at training in Canberra yesterday and then shorts tonight.

They may be on the the rebuild but there's some culture and leadership we could do with.

  On 09/08/2019 at 01:30, Demonland said:

Which results will help us secure the best bottom 6 partners for next years draw?

What’s the bet one of our bottom 6 partners won’t be GC, despite finishing 17th.

Hawthorn are an incredible club. Years of success and no top draft pick but never bottom out. Have let go some genuine stars yet are already beating the like of Geelong; GWS etc. Plus they do it without a Brownlow medal winner thereby ignoring injuries as an excuse for mediocrity. You just know Clarkson will have this team back competing for premiership whilst we will still be arguing over who to pick with our number one draft pick. If you ever want to understand why Melbourne is an average club compare us to Hawthorn over 50 years. Yet we get a coach from Essendon. Surely if you have half a brain you get a coach from the Clarkson production line of assistant coaches. Just look at Brisbane with Fagan it pretty damn obvious.

For a team bound for the finals with pretensions to a top four spot, GWS’s waving of the white flag last night was shameful.

 

  On 09/08/2019 at 13:22, Earl Hood said:

GWS totally outplayed. Interesting to see Yze in the Hawks coaches box at the end. Is there anyway we can get him back home next season to help Goody with some Clarko IP? 

I have long wanted him back as a kicking coach but seeing him watching the game so intently last night and the last couple of weeks, pointing out things on the field and dealing directly with AC it seems he is much more than a specialist coach. Looks like he is a genuine number 2. He would be a great addition to our group having worked closely under the angry man but I was told recently by a former player that Ooze was happy at Hawthorn. Still, we can hope.

  On 09/08/2019 at 21:07, Deesprate said:

Hawthorn are an incredible club. Years of success and no top draft pick but never bottom out. Have let go some genuine stars yet are already beating the like of Geelong; GWS etc. Plus they do it without a Brownlow medal winner thereby ignoring injuries as an excuse for mediocrity. You just know Clarkson will have this team back competing for premiership whilst we will still be arguing over who to pick with our number one draft pick. If you ever want to understand why Melbourne is an average club compare us to Hawthorn over 50 years. Yet we get a coach from Essendon. Surely if you have half a brain you get a coach from the Clarkson production line of assistant coaches. Just look at Brisbane with Fagan it pretty damn obvious.

True to a point...they built this group on the back of picks 2 and 5 in a super draft (2004) and pick 1 (2001) that won them  Hodge, Ruughie and Lance F...then they made some smart buys. They did in fact bottom out to get those picks and spent a few years bumbling around in the lower reaches in the early naughties while we were playing finals some of the time and they kept those players on the park for a long time.

Not arguing about the rightness of a Clarko trained coach however. See my comments re Yze.

Edited August 9, 20195 yr by pitmaster

  On 09/08/2019 at 21:07, Whispering_Jack said:

For a team bound for the finals with pretensions to a top four spot, GWS’s waving of the white flag last night was shameful.

 

They'll have to be renamed the Greatest Western Semifinalists, as i think tonight probably sealed the deal on an incoming week 2 finals exit.

Edited August 9, 20195 yr by John Demonic

 

  On 09/08/2019 at 21:07, Deesprate said:

Hawthorn are an incredible club. Years of success and no top draft pick but never bottom out. Have let go some genuine stars yet are already beating the like of Geelong; GWS etc. Plus they do it without a Brownlow medal winner thereby ignoring injuries as an excuse for mediocrity. You just know Clarkson will have this team back competing for premiership whilst we will still be arguing over who to pick with our number one draft pick. If you ever want to understand why Melbourne is an average club compare us to Hawthorn over 50 years. Yet we get a coach from Essendon. Surely if you have half a brain you get a coach from the Clarkson production line of assistant coaches. Just look at Brisbane with Fagan it pretty damn obvious.

Possibly post of the decade

  On 09/08/2019 at 22:32, John Demonic said:

They'll have to be renamed the Greatest Western Semifinalists, as i think tonight probably sealed the deal on an incoming week 2 finals exit.

More likely week  1 on last nights form. 

Go dogs tonight. Please please win. I suspect the cats will bounce back and beat nth and Port are at home and should beat sydney. 

Disgraceful coaching from Cameron last night. Carey picked it up early with Hawthorn stacking the half back line in the cold and wet conditions. GWS still trying to pick the ball up instead of kicking off the ground, hand balling instead of kicking for distance, Mumford playing in forward line most of match, leaving Simpson in ruck instead. 

GW$ are dropping right off in terms of the quality of their playing list

Their premiership window might well be shut

Edited August 10, 20195 yr by whatwhatsaywhat

  On 10/08/2019 at 02:42, whatwhatsaywhat said:

GW$ are dropping right off in terms of the quality of their playing list

Their premiership window might well be shut

I guess Gill will have to manipulate the draft and give them the top 6 of next year’s bunch. And of course boost their cost of living allowance.  

  On 09/08/2019 at 21:07, Deesprate said:

Hawthorn are an incredible club. Years of success and no top draft pick but never bottom out. Have let go some genuine stars yet are already beating the like of Geelong; GWS etc. Plus they do it without a Brownlow medal winner thereby ignoring injuries as an excuse for mediocrity. You just know Clarkson will have this team back competing for premiership whilst we will still be arguing over who to pick with our number one draft pick. If you ever want to understand why Melbourne is an average club compare us to Hawthorn over 50 years. Yet we get a coach from Essendon. Surely if you have half a brain you get a coach from the Clarkson production line of assistant coaches. Just look at Brisbane with Fagan it pretty damn obvious.

Get a coach from Hawthorn like GWS with Leon Cameron. 

Nice foot pass

Priority Pick for Suns is in the mail I reckon, not that it will help much......and Go Bulldogs!