Cheap Seats 3,310 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, Dr.D said: I'm sorry to be a buzz kill but Tomlinson is very average. he is a very poor decision maker and also not quick. not at all sure what the dees recruiting team saw in him. unless he us going to be used as a key forward then I think this is a poor move. I mean, why the hell aren't we throwing everything at Papley? he is literally everything we need. defensive intent and pressure, speed and goal kicking nous. crazy Because he's contracted to the Swans. So unless you'd like to use pick 3 or a future 1st on Papley and a huge contract then I would look at the draft for some small quick talent 5 2 Quote
binman 44,857 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said: He runs hard and to the right spots This is the reason we want him and why he is an immediate lock. We seriously lack endurance runners. It is why the much maligned anb got a new contract. Modern footy is all about defensive gut running. Listen to Oliver's speech from the bluey for evidence of that. 7 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 On 9/6/2019 at 5:52 PM, spirit of norm smith said: Make it happen. He’d be a huge asset. Forward or back. Just returned from Russia and China ... what good news to come home to ... he'd be a real asset the the Dees some of the '...just what is needed...' outside and forward line assets. Can see him teaming up well by foot, too; might herald the end of the era for long bombs. 1 Quote
Salems Lot 2,692 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 So my take on this is that we have delisted a few peripheral players and are bringing in a best 22-24 player at a Grand final playing club at very low cost. That is surely a trade up on the likes of Maynard et al. 2 Quote
monoccular 17,760 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 I must admit to never watching GW$ much - some very mixed reactions on this site. ( I watched him with interest at the GF and didn't gain a lot ... but then he was far from Robinson Crusoe that day). Question, addressed please only to those who are positive about Adam: where do you see him fitting into our jigsaw puzzle? What position? What assets? Quote
Dr.D 1,771 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 44 minutes ago, RalphiusMaximus said: So basically what we have here is another TMac with better disposal. He runs all day, can take a good mark and hits his targets. Not super fast, but not slow either. If he just roams the wing all day he'll give us pretty good value. he is defender tmac not forward tmac. And for those with short memories he was horrendous in the d50 Quote
RalphiusMaximus 6,112 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dr.D said: he is defender tmac not forward tmac. And for those with short memories he was horrendous in the d50 He was a good defender but butchered his kicks and hurt us with turnovers. Quote
faultydet 7,623 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 Our side just got better. Welcome aboard Adam. Very pleased to have you here. Good luck, and enjoy the next 4yrs (at least) with us. 4 Quote
demoniac 1,337 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said: Tomlinson is 194cms. 96 kgs. From seeing him live v Pies and from highlights, his a key position type player. Not quick. Good skills. Good contested mark. Good kick for goal. That’s the CHF or CHB type. He can be a versatile pickup who can play backup ruck. Good get. But not as a wingman. Langdon helps us with outside run and carry. Tomlinson has elite endurance which is an entry level requirement for a winger today. They have to be able to run from back pocket to forward pocket all game long. They need to be able to help out defenders when they're out of position, be a forward option when required, be a target out of defence and to provide width so we can release into space from centre corridor. Tomlinson is good overhead, should have an advantage in the air over most opponents. He may not be super speedy but will be a better wing option than out of position inside mids like Jones, Tyson, Lewis and Brayshaw. And we've given up no draft assets to get him.. And we'll have speedy wing options with Langdon and Baker to mix and match with. Edited October 7, 2019 by demoniac 2 1 Quote
Adam The God 30,753 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 42 minutes ago, Demonland said: Gee, Dwayne is a [censored], isn't he? Just couldn't help having a little barb at us right at the end. 2 1 Quote
old55 23,864 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Dr.D said: I'm sorry to be a buzz kill ... So unlike you 2 1 Quote
DeeZee 7,496 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 I think Tomlinson might surprise us. Elite mark, and god knows we need that. Good tank and a big boy. He will want to prove himself at his new club too. 4 1 Quote
Chook 15,080 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 I bid thee welcome, Adam son of Tomlin. 2 2 Quote
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Richmond got end of 2nd comp pick (#39) for Ellis and he is reportedly on $600k pa for 5 years. So Tomlinson would have to be in the same range to get the same comp pick #40 You're assuming consistency in AFL decision making and that's fraught with danger 1 Quote
Deefiant 441 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 The age reporting that we got him on a 5 year deal worth 500k a year. Not sure if it's correct as surely that would be more than an end of second round compensation. But if it's true it's a lot to pay for a role player. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dees-nab-tomlinson-in-giant-trade-20191007-p52ygs.html Quote
Slartibartfast 18,124 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deefiant said: The age reporting that we got him on a 5 year deal worth 500k a year. Not sure if it's correct as surely that would be more than an end of second round compensation. But if it's true it's a lot to pay for a role player. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dees-nab-tomlinson-in-giant-trade-20191007-p52ygs.html It’s not really. $500,000 in 5 years time will be a below average pay probably. 1 Quote
binman 44,857 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, demoniac said: Tomlinson has elite endurance which is an entry level requirement for a winger today. They have to be able to run from back pocket to forward pocket all game long. They need to be able to help out defenders when they're out of position, be a forward option when required, be a target out of defence and to provide width so we can release into space from centre corridor. Tomlinson is good overhead, should have an advantage in the air over most opponents. He may not be super speedy but will be a better wing option than out of position inside mids like Jones, Tyson, Lewis and Brayshaw. And we've given up no draft assets to get him.. And we'll have speedy wing options with Langdon and Baker to mix and match with. Excellent summary of his strengths and why we have got him. 1 Quote
Canplay 635 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 5 years - the club is seriously losing it's you know what..... Could be a serious list clogger in the last 3 years of this contract.... Quote
Lord Nev 13,512 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deefiant said: The age reporting that we got him on a 5 year deal worth 500k a year. Not sure if it's correct as surely that would be more than an end of second round compensation. But if it's true it's a lot to pay for a role player. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dees-nab-tomlinson-in-giant-trade-20191007-p52ygs.html 1 minute ago, Canplay said: 5 years - the club is seriously losing it's you know what..... Could be a serious list clogger in the last 3 years of this contract.... "ADAM Tomlinson will play for Melbourne for the next four years after signing with the Demons as an unrestricted free agent on Monday." Inaugural Giant joins Dees as free agent 3 Quote
Watts the matter 1,235 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lord Nev said: "ADAM Tomlinson will play for Melbourne for the next four years after signing with the Demons as an unrestricted free agent on Monday." Inaugural Giant joins Dees as free agent Also the length of contract is not relevant (other than perhaps for figuring how much it is per season in relation to the salary cap). Here is an old article in relation to it. https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-s-secret-formula-for-free-agency-compensation-20180221-p4z16j.html 2 1 Quote
jnrmac 20,385 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 1 hour ago, demoniac said: Tomlinson has elite endurance which is an entry level requirement for a winger today. They have to be able to run from back pocket to forward pocket all game long. They need to be able to help out defenders when they're out of position, be a forward option when required, be a target out of defence and to provide width so we can release into space from centre corridor. Tomlinson is good overhead, should have an advantage in the air over most opponents. He may not be super speedy but will be a better wing option than out of position inside mids like Jones, Tyson, Lewis and Brayshaw. And we've given up no draft assets to get him.. And we'll have speedy wing options with Langdon and Baker to mix and match with. He can take a grab. I think his numbers for marking are elite. So if he is on the wing we have a very interesting set up with Max and he taking down the line marks. That should help us enormously. I like the comparison above - like TMac but with better disposal. 4 1 Quote
DeeZee 7,496 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, jnrmac said: He can take a grab. I think his numbers for marking are elite. So if he is on the wing we have a very interesting set up with Max and he taking down the line marks. That should help us enormously. I like the comparison above - like TMac but with better disposal. Exactly, Maxy can drift forward more often and Thommo can cover the kick down the line. 2 Quote
deanox 10,070 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 3 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said: Tomlinson is 194cms. 96 kgs. From seeing him live v Pies and from highlights, his a key position type player. Not quick. Good skills. Good contested mark. Good kick for goal. That’s the CHF or CHB type. He can be a versatile pickup who can play backup ruck. Good get. But not as a wingman. Langdon helps us with outside run and carry. You keep saying this, except he plays on a wing. That's his best position. Here is his possession heat map for 2019. The one showing the hotspots on the wings, a bit in the centre, the defensive flanks and dropping back to full back (but never going near CHB), and occasionally drifting forward on the flanks? That's Tomlinson. 9 2 Quote
Docs Demons 1,810 Posted October 7, 2019 Posted October 7, 2019 43 minutes ago, Canplay said: 5 years - the club is seriously losing it's you know what..... Could be a serious list clogger in the last 3 years of this contract.... Canplay, give it a break. The kid can play (your name?) and we have got him for next to nothing. He has played in more finals than most , if not all of our list in total and will be a bonus for us. Anyone that big and plays an outside role linking backs to forwards will help us heaps. Welcome to the Dees Adam. You will be a big asset to us getting back into finals. 2 1 Quote
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