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  On 07/10/2019 at 08:25, Dr.D said:

I'm sorry to be a buzz kill but Tomlinson is very average. he is a very poor decision maker and also not quick.  not at all sure what the dees recruiting team saw in him. unless he us going to be used as a key forward then I think this is a poor move. 

I mean, why the hell aren't we throwing everything at Papley? he is literally everything we need. defensive intent and pressure, speed and goal kicking nous. crazy 

Because he's contracted to the Swans. 

So unless you'd like to use pick 3 or a future 1st on Papley and a huge contract then I would look at the draft for some small quick talent 

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      On 07/10/2019 at 07:36, DeeSpencer said:

    He runs hard and to the right spots 

    This is the reason we want him and why he is an immediate lock. We seriously lack endurance runners. It is why the much maligned anb got a new contract. Modern footy is all about defensive gut running. Listen to Oliver's speech from the bluey for evidence of that.

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      On 06/09/2019 at 08:22, spirit of norm smith said:

    Make it happen. He’d be a huge asset. Forward or back. 

    Just returned from Russia and China ... what good news to come home to ... he'd be a real asset the the Dees some of the '...just what is needed...' outside and forward line assets. Can see him teaming up well by foot, too; might herald the end of the era for long bombs.

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    So  my take on this is that we have delisted a few peripheral players and are bringing in a best 22-24 player at a Grand final playing club at very low cost.  That is surely a trade up on the likes of Maynard et al.

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    I must admit to never watching GW$ much - some very mixed reactions on this site.  ( I watched him with interest at the GF and didn't gain a lot ... but then he was far from Robinson Crusoe that day).

    Question, addressed please only to those who are positive about Adam:  where do you see him fitting into our jigsaw puzzle?

    What position?  What assets?

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      On 07/10/2019 at 08:32, RalphiusMaximus said:

    So basically what we have here is another TMac with better disposal. He runs all day, can take a good mark and hits his targets. Not super fast, but not slow either. If he just roams the wing all day he'll give us pretty good value.

    he is defender tmac not forward tmac. And for those with short memories he was horrendous in the d50

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      On 07/10/2019 at 09:17, Dr.D said:

    he is defender tmac not forward tmac. And for those with short memories he was horrendous in the d50

    He was a good defender but butchered his kicks and hurt us with turnovers.

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    Our side just got better.


    Welcome aboard Adam. Very pleased to have you here.

    Good luck, and enjoy the next 4yrs (at least) with us.

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      On 07/10/2019 at 08:12, spirit of norm smith said:

    Tomlinson is 194cms.  96 kgs. From seeing him live v Pies and from highlights, his a key position type player.   Not quick.  Good skills.  Good contested mark.  Good kick for goal.  That’s the CHF or CHB type. He can be a versatile pickup who can play backup ruck.  Good get. 

    But not as a wingman.  Langdon helps us with outside run and carry.  

    Tomlinson has elite endurance which is an entry level  requirement for a winger today. They have to be able to run from back pocket to forward pocket all game long. They need to be able to help out defenders when they're out of position, be a forward option when required, be a target out of defence and to provide width so we can release into space from centre corridor. Tomlinson is good overhead, should have an advantage in the air over most opponents. He may not be super speedy but will be a better wing option than out of position inside mids like Jones, Tyson, Lewis and Brayshaw. And we've given up no draft assets to get him.. And we'll have speedy wing options with Langdon and Baker to mix and match with.

    Edited by demoniac

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      On 07/10/2019 at 09:31, Demonland said:

    Gee, Dwayne is a [censored], isn't he? Just couldn't help having a little barb at us right at the end.

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      On 07/10/2019 at 08:25, Dr.D said:

    I'm sorry to be a buzz kill ...

    So unlike you

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    I think Tomlinson might surprise us.

    Elite mark, and god knows we need that.

    Good tank and a big boy.

    He will want to prove himself at his new club too.

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      On 07/10/2019 at 07:01, Lucifer's Hero said:

    Richmond got end of 2nd comp pick (#39) for Ellis and he is reportedly on $600k pa for 5 years.  So Tomlinson would have to be in the same range to get the same comp pick #40

    You're assuming consistency in AFL decision making and that's fraught with danger

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      On 07/10/2019 at 10:54, Deefiant said:

    The age reporting that we got him on a 5 year deal worth 500k a year. Not sure if it's correct as surely that would be more than an end of second round compensation. But if it's true it's a lot to pay for a role player.

    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dees-nab-tomlinson-in-giant-trade-20191007-p52ygs.html

    It’s not really. $500,000 in 5 years time will be a below average pay probably.

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      On 07/10/2019 at 09:26, demoniac said:

    Tomlinson has elite endurance which is an entry level  requirement for a winger today. They have to be able to run from back pocket to forward pocket all game long. They need to be able to help out defenders when they're out of position, be a forward option when required, be a target out of defence and to provide width so we can release into space from centre corridor. Tomlinson is good overhead, should have an advantage in the air over most opponents. He may not be super speedy but will be a better wing option than out of position inside mids like Jones, Tyson, Lewis and Brayshaw. And we've given up no draft assets to get him.. And we'll have speedy wing options with Langdon and Baker to mix and match with.

    Excellent summary of his strengths and why we have got him.

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    5 years -  the club is seriously losing it's you know what.....    Could be a serious list clogger in the last 3 years of this contract....  

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      On 07/10/2019 at 10:54, Deefiant said:

    The age reporting that we got him on a 5 year deal worth 500k a year. Not sure if it's correct as surely that would be more than an end of second round compensation. But if it's true it's a lot to pay for a role player.

    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dees-nab-tomlinson-in-giant-trade-20191007-p52ygs.html

     

      On 07/10/2019 at 11:04, Canplay said:

    5 years -  the club is seriously losing it's you know what.....    Could be a serious list clogger in the last 3 years of this contract....  

    "ADAM Tomlinson will play for Melbourne for the next four years after signing with the Demons as an unrestricted free agent on Monday."

    Inaugural Giant joins Dees as free agent

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      On 07/10/2019 at 11:06, Lord Nev said:

     

    "ADAM Tomlinson will play for Melbourne for the next four years after signing with the Demons as an unrestricted free agent on Monday."

    Inaugural Giant joins Dees as free agent

    Also the length of contract is not relevant (other than perhaps for figuring how much it is per season in relation to the salary cap).

    Here is an old article in relation to it.

    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-afl-s-secret-formula-for-free-agency-compensation-20180221-p4z16j.html

     

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      On 07/10/2019 at 09:26, demoniac said:

    Tomlinson has elite endurance which is an entry level  requirement for a winger today. They have to be able to run from back pocket to forward pocket all game long. They need to be able to help out defenders when they're out of position, be a forward option when required, be a target out of defence and to provide width so we can release into space from centre corridor. Tomlinson is good overhead, should have an advantage in the air over most opponents. He may not be super speedy but will be a better wing option than out of position inside mids like Jones, Tyson, Lewis and Brayshaw. And we've given up no draft assets to get him.. And we'll have speedy wing options with Langdon and Baker to mix and match with.

    He can take a grab. I think his numbers for marking are elite. So if he is on the wing we have a very interesting set up with Max and he taking down the line marks. That should help us enormously. I like the comparison above - like TMac but with better disposal.

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      On 07/10/2019 at 11:21, jnrmac said:

    He can take a grab. I think his numbers for marking are elite. So if he is on the wing we have a very interesting set up with Max and he taking down the line marks. That should help us enormously. I like the comparison above - like TMac but with better disposal.

    Exactly, Maxy can drift forward more often and Thommo can cover the kick down the line.

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      On 07/10/2019 at 08:12, spirit of norm smith said:

    Tomlinson is 194cms.  96 kgs. From seeing him live v Pies and from highlights, his a key position type player.   Not quick.  Good skills.  Good contested mark.  Good kick for goal.  That’s the CHF or CHB type. He can be a versatile pickup who can play backup ruck.  Good get. 

    But not as a wingman.  Langdon helps us with outside run and carry.  

    You keep saying this, except he plays on a wing. That's his best position. 

    Here is his possession heat map for 2019. The one showing the hotspots on the wings, a bit in the centre,  the defensive flanks and dropping back to full back (but never going near CHB),  and occasionally drifting forward on the flanks? That's Tomlinson.

     

    Screenshot_20191007-223523_AFL.jpg

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      On 07/10/2019 at 11:04, Canplay said:

    5 years -  the club is seriously losing it's you know what.....    Could be a serious list clogger in the last 3 years of this contract....  

    Canplay, give it a break. The kid can play (your name?) and we have got him for next to nothing. He has played in more finals than most , if not all of our list in total and will be a bonus for us. Anyone that big and plays an outside role linking backs to forwards will help us heaps. Welcome to the Dees  Adam. You will be a big asset to us getting back into finals.

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