PREGAME: Rd 20 vs Richmond

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1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

They do call back back boundary thrown ins.

Oh? I didn't know that - bad call by the ump, then...

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3 hours ago, binman said:

Not much mystery. Broke his collarbone. Came back via twos. Given he didn't miss much footy it is surprising he is not in given his form rgis season. I assume it is because lever has the intercept marking role.

Poor omission

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,819]

25 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

JKH - well done, young fella...played at Casey, no rumblings, just worked his butt off

 

What's the bet JFK plays 4 blinding games to close out the season, earns himself another 2 years on the list and a step closer to MFC life membership with 48 games.

[binman 42,938]

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

What's the bet JFK plays 4 blinding games to close out the season, earns himself another 2 years on the list and a step closer to MFC life membership with 48 games.

Lazarus like. 

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13 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

What's the bet JFK plays 4 blinding games to close out the season, earns himself another 2 years on the list and a step closer to MFC life membership with 48 games.

 

10 minutes ago, binman said:

Lazarus like. 

Or, he plays 4 blinding games that is the making of him

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1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Lever would do a better job on big forwards than McDonald.

Spargo would do a better job, as would Paul Callery.

[Redleg 40,914]

I can hear the howling already, but Oscar wasn’t that bad last year and in those first 2 finals.

I wonder if there is a reason we don’t know about, why he has been so poor this year.

I would still like to see him put on 6-8 kgs of muscle over summer and maybe have a go up forward before we give up on him.

I recall many had Frost delisted last year and he has improved quite a bit this year. In a settled back 6, which we haven’t had all year, he would be even better.  

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21 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Spargo would do a better job, as would Paul Callery.

Lever is a gun - we're lucky to have him

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8 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Lever is a gun - we're lucky to have him

Generally agree but not on the big talls. Put it down to just being very disgruntled with how it has all turned out and you must admit some of efforts last week looked half hearted and his unforced errors were concerning.

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3 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Generally agree but not on the big talls. Put it down to just being very disgruntled with how it has all turned out and you must admit some of efforts last week looked half hearted and his unforced errors were concerning.

Once he has (hopefully) an injury free run at it, we'll all see good this bloke is

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14 hours ago, Youngwilliam said:

Can we put Red n Blue cones out against the Tigers? No one will notice.

Unlike how everyone will know how sad this post  ( and probably you ) is. 

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26 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Generally agree but not on the big talls. Put it down to just being very disgruntled with how it has all turned out and you must admit some of efforts last week looked half hearted and his unforced errors were concerning.

He's still a good defender though with his reading of the play and intercept ability.

Rance isn't fantastic 1 on 1 either (better than Lever yes) but his reading of the play and ability to float to contests at the right time setting up rebounds is what makes him so valuable 

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2 hours ago, binman said:

Really? Why do you think then they didn't drop omac, bring in hore to play the intercept role and play lever on reiwoldt or lynch?

The coaches think that but I don’t agree.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,858]

Move Viney to half-back. I think he upsets the balance in the midfield. There’s nothing to gain from the remainder of the season, mix it up a bit. 

Edited August 2, 2019 by Ethan Tremblay

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Where's our mate @kev martin today? Wondering if he got down to the captain's run for a look.

 

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5 hours ago, poita said:

Good to see we are carrying on with the ridiculous changes - why change a season long habit at this point?

Two defenders come out so we bring in four forwards. I assume that means Fritsch will play back again, which is utterly stupid given his recent form. Yet we have Hore sitting in the VFL.

No issue with Oscar playing - at least he can get on the field most weeks, which is more than can be said for May and Lever.

Tim Smith must be the most fragile human this side of the bubble boy. What's wrong with him this week - broken fingernail, chapped lips? Surely he is done as an AFL footballer.

Are the club going to pull out the same utter BS about Jetta's unrelated knee injuries again? It is indisputable that we played him injured earlier in the season which led him to missing 10 weeks or so of football. We brought him back too early and now he is out again. Utterly pathetic. Put him in cotton wool for the rest of the year and get him right for round 1 next year.

Kennedy-Harris finally gets another chance after being brought back too early against Adelaide. Yet again, terrible player management. At this point he has to better value than Neal-Bullen, but why has it taken him two months to get the switch made? That said, why haven't we given ANB a different role at some point to get him more involved in the play.

Maybe they are trying to keep him away from the play lest he gives it straight back to the opposition....

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2 hours ago, Redleg said:

I can hear the howling already, but Oscar wasn’t that bad last year and in those first 2 finals.

I wonder if there is a reason we don’t know about, why he has been so poor this year.

I would still like to see him put on 6-8 kgs of muscle over summer and maybe have a go up forward before we give up on him.

I recall many had Frost delisted last year and he has improved quite a bit this year. In a settled back 6, which we haven’t had all year, he would be even better.  

I think plenty of us do know about it there are just some that won't acknowledge he is not AFL standard.

 

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7 hours ago, binman said:

lever, and to a lesser extent hore, are poor one on one.

Throw in Frost to that. 

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17 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

which IMO will be a bigger problem for him moving forward than his game plan

I agree, who'd have thought!

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3 hours ago, Redleg said:

I can hear the howling already, but Oscar wasn’t that bad last year and in those first 2 finals.

I wonder if there is a reason we don’t know about, why he has been so poor this year.

I agree O Mac was sufficient last year and did his job in the finals. (the West Coast final was a training drill which didn't constitute a final).

However he hit rock bottom last week letting Josh Bruce (or was he on Membrey) running amok and that pathetic hanball to nobody which directly resulted in a St Kilda goal.

There must be a reason. Does he feel insecure out there when T Mac doesn't play?

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5 hours ago, binman said:

Give me a spell. Agree if may was fit he would have gone out (and said as much in my post) but you can't pin Bruce's goals on omac. One maybe but he got lace out delivery for at least one goal (after a woeful turnover),  omac was not on him all game and at least one was a result of lever not spoiling and if iirc another was from a throw in when Smith was clueless and Bruce grabbed it from the air and snapped the easiest of goals.

If he was as poor as you think dazzler he would not have been picked this week. They had hore they could bring in and petty (who by the way is no forward) who could go back. But they have stuck with omac.

Obviously you and many others disagree with goody but without trying to be disingenuous or dismissive he is an AFL coach, would have analysed his performance so is better placed than us to objectively assess omac's performance last week. And has picked him to go up against lynch or reiwoldt (i suspect lynch).

Believe it or not not every thing is OMac's fault.

T%hank you, the hysteria surrounding the bloke is getting ridiculous. He had 11 1 % last week which indicates he did a lot of "team" things. He made mistakes, but tell me a player who did not. One of Bruces goal could not have been stopped by SIlvangi at his peak., the quality of the delivery to him. Lever caused another by wanting to be a hero and surely Omac cannot be responsible for a ruck ocntest when he is not the designated one.

The absolute balls up in the fwd line after a really good ball movement by hand down the ground was more ridiculous than many of the things that Omacis beoing pilloried for.

Give him a breal.

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I suppose we can go to the game with an ambivilance about it. Winning and losing don't have the same attractions to it. What I look forward to is a couple of frostemite efforts where he will outmark Lynch and then run off for 25 meters and kick it 5 meters onto a Richmond chest. Or oscar looking stoned in the goal square as his opponent is 20 meters in front marking the ball.

[Demons11 7,010]

Does anybody know if the Gawn injury rumours are true? 

First week of SuperCoach finals and Gawn our would be diabolical.

[P-man 13,366]

Does anyone honestly look at Richmond’s team with any fear? I don’t think I ever have, including when they have Rance and Cotchin running around. This week is no different.

They have an obviously superior forward line which will probably be the difference, but I look at that team on paper with no sense of fear.

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6 minutes ago, P-man said:

Does anyone honestly look at Richmond’s team with any fear? I don’t think I ever have, including when they have Rance and Cotchin running around. This week is no different.

They have an obviously superior forward line which will probably be the difference, but I look at that team on paper with no sense of fear.

Yes