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If Adelaide sacked Pyke and made a long-term offer to lure Goodwin

John Demonic
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  1. 1. Which coaching alternative timeline do you prefer?

    • Goodwin to Adelaide, We seek out Roos to return as head coach in an attempt to ward off Carlton.
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And they'd certainly not be doing their due diligence if they didn't headhunt Goodwin. And we wouldn't be doing our due financial diligence if we didn't look at it as a potential opportunity of getting out of a contract that we may have to pay out 2 years on (End of 2022) if we're in the same position this time next year.

I look forward to the incoming mockery ?

 

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    5 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

    And they'd certainly not be doing their due diligence if they didn't headhunt Goodwin. And we wouldn't be doing our due financial diligence if we didn't look at it as a potential opportunity of getting out of a contract that we may have to pay out 2 years on (End of 2022) if we're in the same position this time next year.

    I look forward to the incoming hate.

     

    He was basically offered the job before he took ours...

    He turned them down then.

    No reason to think he would change his mind now.

    The club also committed to a new contract with Goodwin at the start of this season.

    Despite how things have panned out I doubt they would have changed their minds on his long term viability no matter what some on Demonland may like to think.

    He's ours...like it or not.

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    8 minutes ago, rjay said:

    He was basically offered the job before he took ours...

    He turned them down then.

    No reason to think he would change his mind now.

    The club also committed to a new contract with Goodwin at the start of this season.

    Despite how things have panned out I doubt they would have changed their minds on his long term viability despite what some on Demonland may like to think.

    He's ours...like it or not.

    One reason might be a change of circumstance in the last 6 months and the potential of being out of a job in 1 years time. I'm not suggesting Goodwin would cut and run either. But suggesting a possible amicable arrangement whereby the club would only release Goodwin and he'd only leave, if Roos is prepared to step in.

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    7 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

    One reason might be a change of circumstance in the last 6 months and the potential of being out of a job in 1 years time. I'm not suggesting Goodwin would cut and run either. But suggesting a possible amicable arrangement whereby the club would only release Goodwin and he'd only leave, if Roos is prepared to step in.

    Roos has no intention of stepping in.

    My opinion, but I think the players were over him by the end.

    He was needed to do a job, he did it and he moved on.

    He did a great job by the way, no knocking him but I think his time was up.

    Those who think Roos would have taken us to a flag if he stayed on are off the mark to my way of thinking.

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    Roos won't coach us again but it is a nice thaught. If pyke loses his job at Adelaide and I think he will then there might be an opportunity for Lyon or is that too left field.

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    Shame we can't trade coaches like other sports have in the past (see Doc Rivers NBA Celtics to Clippers for an example of a contracted coach being traded).

    Trade Goody to Adelaide for a pick. Given Goody is a young and up and coming coach, I say he would be worth two first rounders (clearly I am kidding here folks, only clarko commands that kind of trade currency) 

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    2 minutes ago, rjay said:

    Roos has no intention of stepping in.

    My opinion, but I think the players were over him by the end.

    He was needed to do a job, he did it and he moved on.

    He did a great job by the way, no knocking him but I think his time was up.

    Those who think Roos would have taken us to a flag if he stayed on are off the mark to my way of thinking.

    What makes you think the players were over him exactly? I don't agree with you, but open to hearing what made you think that, and then also what that tells you about the players if so.

     

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    2 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

    What makes you think the players were over him exactly? I don't agree with you, but open to hearing what made you think that, and then also what that tells you about the players if so.

     

    Just a feeling based on performance and a few rumours.

    Maybe off the mark but I do think his time was up.

    I think many on here have have rose coloured glasses and forget the discussion of Roos as a poor match day coach.

    Whilst I don't necessarily believe that, he was one dimensional and it wasn't the best brand of footy to play or watch.

    ...and for all the talk of defence first, we still got our share of beltings.

    A big part of his job was to take the heat whilst we yet again attempted a rebuild.

    A novice coach wouldn't have been allowed the time we got with Roos at the helm.

    I think he came in did his job and time was right for him to move on.

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    The only reason Adelaide would be interested in Goodwin is if they were absolutely certain the MFC were just a team of dud players.

    But here some of you are saying it’s Goodwin who is the dud.

    Why would the Crows move on one dud coach only to replace him with another?

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    Zero chance Roos will come back to coach Melbourne. I don't think he'll coach again. No need, we ballooned his super.

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    [censored] it. Straight swap. Pyke for Goodwin. Get it done. 

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    9 minutes ago, rjay said:

    Just a feeling based on performance and a few rumours.

    Maybe off the mark but I do think his time was up.

    I think many on here have have rose coloured glasses and forget the discussion of Roos as a poor match day coach.

    Whilst I don't necessarily believe that, he was one dimensional and it wasn't the best brand of footy to play or watch.

    ...and for all the talk of defence first, we still got our share of beltings.

    A big part of his job was to take the heat whilst we yet again attempted a rebuild.

    A novice coach wouldn't have been allowed the time we got with Roos at the helm.

    I think he came in did his job and time was right for him to move on.

    Fair enough mate, can totally understand how you'd feel that way.

    I guess for me, I see it more as Roos could have potentially changed his game style and match day moves based on the far better personnel Goodwin inherited, but we'll never know. I do think it's important to remember the quality of players he had at his disposal to implement that brand of footy though.

    The same things have often been said about Goodwin, and we've had a few beltings under him, with a far better list.

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    I reckon Roos only chose Goodwin to be his successor because he really wanted to get the hell out and not stuck with us for another year.

    "yep he'll do. see ya's later, i'm off to Hawaii!"

    I don't think he'll be coming back.

     

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    30 minutes ago, dl4e said:

    Roos won't coach us again but it is a nice thaught. If pyke loses his job at Adelaide and I think he will then there might be an opportunity for Lyon or is that too left field.

    Gary Lyon would be a great get, him Nietz and Ooze would take us to the promised land. 

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    5 minutes ago, chookrat said:

    Gary Lyon would be a great get, him Nietz and Ooze would take us to the promised land. 

    don't make me vomit. 

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    If the Crows put in a bid for Goodwin they should be drug tested. Roos and Jackson put us on the right path and Goodwin and the board stuffed it again in 12 months.

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    Needs to be a third choice:

    3) Absolutely zero chance of 1) or 2) choices ever occurring 

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    Haha Drmonland

    Where fantasy becomes reality 

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    All a bit strange.

    There is zero chance of Roos taking a senior coaching position next year- MFC or Carlton.  He may take a consultant role at CFC to top up the super, but nothing more.

    Roos wasn’t fired by the MFC; he left.  He didn’t want to be a senior coach anymore due the the overwhelming demands it put on him and his family.  

    If the club doesn’t want Goodwin, we don’t have to hope that Adelaide will bring him in; the club simply fires him.  With that said, you don’t fire a coach 10 months after a preliminary final.  Next year he may be under pressure, but it’s not there yet.

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    Think the OP read Stuie's Facebook page.

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    Weird poll. Both options have little to none chance of happening. 

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    38 minutes ago, Mental Demons said:

    If the Crows put in a bid for Goodwin they should be drug tested. Roos and Jackson put us on the right path and Goodwin and the board stuffed it again in 12 months.

    So which 12 months last year of this year, what position does a Board member play?

    Another wrist slashing thread, ho hum

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