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Post Game: Rd 5 v St. Kilda

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The players can play. I just think we've been worked out. 

Coaches. 

Out: not sure it will matter

In: Peter Jackson

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    You wonder at what point you write off the season  - though for me, we'd partly written it off before it started with so many players having compromised preseasons due to elective surgeries. Perhaps time to start investing in players like Sparrow and Petty, and seeing where we are with players like Keilty.

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    Season over. Could not care about the next match or any other match this season. This after last year is just too much to bear! I think that I will concentrate on my other interests for quite some time.

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    Come on all the 'it will be ok ers'.

    Educate me on how it's all ok.

    I'm all ears.

    Another bump in road to glory?

    We'll learn and bounce back on track next week? 

    Stay positive, good things will happen?

    ???

     

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    Hibberd and TMac should be made examples of and dropped for Petty and Kielty.

    Spargo and Wagners our for Garlett , Stretch and Baker.

    Lewis is finished too , maybe Tom Sparrow for him .

    Years over so may as well play the kids until Lever and May return.

    We are unfit and have no plan going forward.

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      On 20/04/2019 at 09:09, Petraccattack said:

    Diabolical coaching. 

    Up there with the worst i have witnessed in 5 decades.

    Never had a chance from the get go starting Lewis and Jones off of both wings against a quick side who love to slingshot off HB.

    Swung the changes with the match well and truly gone.

    Zero faith in this coaching lot.   Trade most of them in pls if they can't see basic glaring positional errors before the first bounce.

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    What’s the top five of the draft look like?

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    At this rate we’re bottom 6 by the end of the season. Possibly bottom 4.

    The defensive structures seem to be all over the shop. We can’t hit a target. We’re actually a very average team.

     

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      On 20/04/2019 at 09:21, Scoop Junior said:

    People can say the there was no heart, no desire, not trying, etc. but I disagree.

    There was plenty of effort in the first half. The problem was the usual structural issues - we were absolutely slaughtered by a far better structured side forward and behind the ball. St Kilda absolutely schooled us in game style / structure.

    So despite dominating most of the game, we were only 3 points up midway through the second quarter. The combined effect of not being able to translate midfield dominance into scores and the leaking of easy goals down the other end absolutely drained the confidence and belief of the players. Then you get what you get in the third quarter.

    Time to make changes, especially behind the ball. The free players for the opposition inside 50 week-after-week is just disheartening and deflating for the supporters and obviously the players.

    Unfortunately our style of defence is very high risk, super aggressive and only works when you're absolutely on top of your inside game, your forward 50 ground balls and your forward pressure. Clearly the players aren't at the level of last year at the moment and therefore we're getting completely exposed by our aggressive defensive structures. Surely we need some structural changes to help us defend better and stay in games when we're not producing the levels required.

    Nice to read some proper, level headed analysis!

    Couldn’t agree more. The whole ‘win the ball at source’ philosophy is fine, but you better dominate in there.

    A territory game can also be fine, but you better have the players, and in our case we went in with 3 talls.

    And the game awareness/structure in the D50 is shocking, which fees like Chaplin. Or they relied on May and when he went down we weren’t prepared.

    Lewis, Jones are clearly now liabilities.. so what the hell were they doing on the wings against such a fast team?

    Why the hell didn’t we send TMac back? Petracca to the ball? Fritsch forward? Anything at all?

    I hate the rubbish about ‘not trying’, ‘no heart’, in my view this is never the reason. In this case it was coaching, all over the place. Just. Dreadful.

     

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    The problem with the club is that there is no club. We're nomads. We have no spiritual home to walk the halls of after training. No tangible history to embrace, forget the G . . . It's just where we play.  We're like a start up club trying to create something out of nothing. The 12 flags count for nought. We have no soul. The players, staff, coaches can all change but in the end we don't stand for anything and we aren't anywhere.  

    That's reality

    How do you take you're kid down to "the club"? There is no club

    Every other club in the league has a club, their club not a temporary share arrangement with 2 other teams

    [censored]

     

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    After round 5 one of these team will be on top of the ladder the other will be in the bottom three, wonder what the betting would have been on which team was where.

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    We look like a bottom four side 

    This midfield is our first choice midfield and consistently second to the ball

    Forget finals; rest of the year is about working out how we can be so bad at contested footy given Gawn / Preuss in the ruck feeding Oliver, Brayshaw, Viney, Harmes etc

    Pathetic

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    No words. None. Year after year I show up to games buy membership travel interstate to be served up this rubbish. So over it it's not funny.

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      On 20/04/2019 at 09:28, McQueen said:

    What’s the top five of the draft look like?

    Pretty good. They schooled Casey today, not that it means much...

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      On 20/04/2019 at 09:17, Sir Why You Little said:

    At The MFC a truth meeting only lasts for 1 week

    Other clubs make a stand that lasts for years

    Pack your bags Goody

    You ain’t the man we need. 

    But who is???

    At this point i would be looking to poach someone with a heap of experience who went ok at AFL level as a caretaker or maybe Viney If no one like this is available.

    Sorry to say but Goody is out of his depth at AFL level.  Might be ok at VFL level but even then i think he would flop unless he manages to pull a rabbit out.

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    I reckon the Umpires were making me sick, it couldn't have been the players.

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      On 20/04/2019 at 09:23, bing181 said:

    Petracca still getting going after not much of a preseason.

    ogghh... more excuses when we were run off our feet defending.  what don't the half forwards have to run and defend ?  they just kick goals only... right .

    When are people going to start to expect from this bloke ?  When.

     

    He is too slow and sluggish,   he does not cover enough kilometers,  both ways.

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      On 20/04/2019 at 09:31, whatwhatsaywhat said:

    We look like a bottom four side 

    This midfield is our first choice midfield and consistently second to the ball

    Forget finals; rest of the year is about working out how we can be so bad at contested footy given Gawn / Preuss in the ruck feeding Oliver, Brayshaw, Viney, Harmes etc

    Pathetic

    We are a bottom four side

    5 rounds in is enough to get solid evidence 

    3 losses at home Do not lie

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      On 20/04/2019 at 09:28, McQueen said:

    What’s the top five of the draft look like?

    Very good. Watched some of them in the under 18 Aussie side today. Great talent 

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    To extend Goodwin for 4 years was a terrible decision. Goodwin has some skill but like many gifted natural players he does not have a handle on how to get the most out of all the players and most of them are not as natural and gifted. Other coaches do it The Scott brothers, Roos, Clarkson but these are coaches that think on their feet and win games with adaptable gameday coaching. Goodwin inherited a very good list and now they look like a rabble and we are stuck with it for 4 years. He only has one plan. Part of the problem is a lack of winning key position players. The only key position we win is the center. Goodwin is responsible for the current list and poor drafting. Hibberd has lost a yard May can't get out there KK does not play defense or win his own ball, T. Mac is all over the shop, OMac would not get a run at another club. We have a coach getting the worst out of our list. We play a zone defense but all our backline are marking intercept players and not good at accountable one on one defending.  

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    Wonder when we l stop using our wings as retirement homes and play proper wingers like Stretch there.

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    So many issues, our main strength contested ball isn’t even working for us anymore and enough said about lack of run and spread. Might be worth doing a Port and trading some players to get some quick kids in

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