18 minutes ago, Demonland said:

It might be his quad that's strapped.    Looking again now the strapping is coming out of his shirts and covers half the knee. 

 

 

40 minutes ago, Demonland said:

It might be his quad that's strapped. Looking again now the strapping is coming out of his shirts and covers half the knee. 

He's a strapping young man, that Viney fellow.

With Preuss having an adductor sprain I would like to know what he has got in his sling.

2 hours ago, Damo said:

Im really surprised Hibberd has escaped DL wrath. I thought he looked like he didnt know or thought he can get away with having slowed down. Shades of Brian Wilson, when just losing that little bit of toe can be a problem.

 

I think he strikes me as a player that’s peaked in his AFL career and is coming down the other side of the hill.

Was absolutely poor yesterday.

2 hours ago, McQueen said:

It’s an unfortunate by-product of trying to play the game in our forward half. 

A congested F50 is always going to cause a greater ratio of high balls. 

It’s a worry no doubt. There’s only a few players who have the pin point accuracy to hit a leading forward and we all know who they are. 

The rest just send it long and hope for the best. 

That is true, and it is not good enough for us. It continuously fails as an approach to footy.

Our kicking to targets is pathetic, largely brought on by our targets being pathetic in their roles to maximise an incoming possession. No-one is looking for downfield options - the kick count is all important, not the deliberation of kicking; and, there is time to achieve a set-up in teamwork.

Coaches, get to work on this as we have waited too long for this to occur.

Entering the forward line and more deeply into the 50m zone is NOT met by 'panic station' attempts at clearances or maximal yards gained. That lets you teammates down, despite the statistic gained.

If any of us DL supporters were playing, as soon as you saw - or predicted - that a teammate was in possession looking for a target, you would move rapidly to receive in the least compromising spot you could find/see on the field - and in this case, it is worth being where the ball 'aint and certainly, where the ball in the majority of cases will end up - right smack middle of a cluster of hopelessness.

In football, you make your own game, for Heaven's sake. There are acres of ground available and two-way mental telepathy 'aint that hard to achieve - or even three-ways. Are we prepared to stay as a low-percentage team placing the onus and responsibility onto Solo Melk, accepting low scoring potentials relative to the number of our entries and the number of our 'professional' forwards? 

 

Edited March 10, 20196 yr by Deemania since 56

26 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

That is true, and it is not good enough for us. It continuously fails as an approach to footy.

Our kicking to targets is pathetic, largely brought on by our targets being pathetic in their roles to maximise an incoming possession. No-one is looking for downfield options - the kick count is all important, not the deliberation of kicking; and, there is time to achieve a set-up in teamwork.

Coaches, get to work on this as we have waited too long for this to occur.

Entering the forward line and more deeply into the 50m zone is NOT met by 'panic station' attempts at clearances or maximal yards gained. That lets you teammates down, despite the statistic gained.

If any of us DL supporters were playing, as soon as you saw - or predicted - that a teammate was in possession looking for a target, you would move rapidly to receive in the least compromising spot you could find/see on the field - and in this case, it is worth being where the ball 'aint and certainly, where the ball in the majority of cases will end up - right smack middle of a cluster of hopelessness.

In football, you make your own game, for Heaven's sake. There are acres of ground available and two-way mental telepathy 'aint that hard to achieve - or even three-ways. Are we prepared to stay as a low-percentage team placing the onus and responsibility onto Solo Melk, accepting low scoring potentials relative to the number of our entries and the number of our 'professional' forwards? 

 

I have no idea what you're talking about Deemania . . . but I think you're probably right. 

43 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I think he strikes me as a player that’s peaked in his AFL career and is coming down the other side of the hill.

Was absolutely poor yesterday.

So no chance that Hibberd is just right at the beginning of the season and is just yet to find some form?

I knew everyone would be talking doom and gloom on here after that game. Guys it’s a practice match and we played finals last season so we are going to have a slow start. All finals teams are like this at pre season time.

1 hour ago, FarNorthernD said:

So no chance that Hibberd is just right at the beginning of the season and is just yet to find some form?

It's the blokes first hit out for the year, but let's write him off anyway.  It's BPP, he's prone to making statements like that.

20 hours ago, markc said:

i saw we had less on the bench , was wondering why ?

They have the option to play up to 8 on the bench.  

So Hibberd gets a let off with "it is early doors", but ANB and Oscar cop unrelenting criticism?

4 hours ago, JV7 said:

I've said this multiple times on this forum over the past 12 months.

Leg speed is so overrated in football. It's all about ball movement, when we get our run game going & quick handballs we look slick & quick (passage in the 1st quarter where chain of hanballs through the middle & Hibberd fluffed the kick at goal from 50m is one example). Yesterday we turned the ball over by foot & by hand which made us look "slow" but disposal at this time of year is nothing to worry about.

We do lack leg speed but people only bring this up when we don't play our way because the opposition doesn't let us not because we are slow. 

 

"That goal", from a long bomb kick in, I think the first goal in the final v Geelong (or was it Hawthorn) was all about rapid fire ball use and not much about leg speed.   It can be done but it requires all links in the chain to be mentally switched on and aware.

24 minutes ago, Damo said:

So Hibberd gets a let off with "it is early doors", but ANB and Oscar cop unrelenting criticism?

Why shouldn't he?  It's his first game of the year and he's got a few years of terrific footy under his belt.  

Criticism should be toned to the the time of the year. I expect Hibberd will get back to fantastic form but his game yesterday should be noted. I cant see how commenting on it is "writing him off".

 

3 hours ago, DV8 said:

We should be a  'little'  underdone in comparison to cellar dweller Lions...  We want to be running ontop of the ground come September.  The Lions have to be running ontop of the ground for Rnd1.

 

 

Yeah well you never "Flirt" with form and we haven't got any to speak of Port must fancy themselves in a few weeks.

2 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

That is true, and it is not good enough for us. It continuously fails as an approach to footy.

Our kicking to targets is pathetic, largely brought on by our targets being pathetic in their roles to maximise an incoming possession. No-one is looking for downfield options - the kick count is all important, not the deliberation of kicking; and, there is time to achieve a set-up in teamwork.

Coaches, get to work on this as we have waited too long for this to occur.

Entering the forward line and more deeply into the 50m zone is NOT met by 'panic station' attempts at clearances or maximal yards gained. That lets you teammates down, despite the statistic gained.

If any of us DL supporters were playing, as soon as you saw - or predicted - that a teammate was in possession looking for a target, you would move rapidly to receive in the least compromising spot you could find/see on the field - and in this case, it is worth being where the ball 'aint and certainly, where the ball in the majority of cases will end up - right smack middle of a cluster of hopelessness.

In football, you make your own game, for Heaven's sake. There are acres of ground available and two-way mental telepathy 'aint that hard to achieve - or even three-ways. Are we prepared to stay as a low-percentage team placing the onus and responsibility onto Solo Melk, accepting low scoring potentials relative to the number of our entries and the number of our 'professional' forwards? 

 

One of the most intelligent posts EVER !!

What a hilarious thread.... cheers

17 hours ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

Glad we agree on ANB, but Petty is a taco. One of the sloppiest footballers I’ve seen since Oscar McDonald debuted. I’d be concerned if we are relying on him developing 

Well he is a 2nd yr player. We would expect him to develop.

Oh, please! Listen to yourselves... Hibberd has just come off a magnificent season and you condemn him to the scrap heap.... Some folk are seduced to the title, “Waste of Space”.

The JLT is a glorified practice match that helps boost ratings for Media outlets before the real Stuff... Teams are competing with different player numbers... we fielded half our best 22 last week... get a grip peeps!

Haha good to see nothing has changed in 5 months....

 

33 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

The JLT is a glorified practice match that helps boost ratings for Media outlets before the real Stuff... Teams are competing with different player numbers... we fielded half our best 22 last week... get a grip peeps!

It’s true but also every year people get carried away with the results...

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

Yeah well you never "Flirt" with form and we haven't got any to speak of Port must fancy themselves in a few weeks.

Whilst we typically play our sharpest when underdogs, lack of displayed form is concerning to me at least.

 

Re "flirting with form".   I don't mind resting a player, here or there during the season, but that means the rest of the team has to lift to cover...  not allowing any air of complacency to kick in.   More likely for complacency when a few top players are returning together in a group. 

 

In our current case, I would be more at ease if we were at least linking up thru the midfield.

Edited March 10, 20196 yr by DV8

1 hour ago, waynewussell said:

Oh, please! Listen to yourselves... Hibberd has just come off a magnificent season and you condemn him to the scrap heap.... Some folk are seduced to the title, “Waste of Space”.

Not buying in with the Hibberd knockers but he had an average season last year, particularly compared with a stellar previous season.

...by the way I thought Oliver was really poor yesterday (and I'm one of his biggest fans) despite reasonable possession numbers, his ball handling was way off the mark.

I expect him to fire up in the season proper, hope he doesn't buy into the Gary hype.

20 minutes ago, DV8 said:

Whilst we typically play our sharpest when underdogs, lack of displayed form is concerning to me at least.

 

Re "flirting with form".   I don't mind resting a player, here or there during the season, but that means the rest of the team has to lift to cover...  not allowing any air of complacency to kick in.   More likely for complacency when a few top players are returning together in a group. 

 

In our current case, I would be more at ease is we were at least linking up thru the midfield.

Yeah and it begs the question ... They have had nearly 6 months to "Get over" Injuries! How bad actually were they??