We are all on the same page when it comes to our need for a speedy outside mid who uses the ball well.

It looks like Gaff is not coming, and KK is apprently more of a back flanker. 

Is there any possibility of reinventing one of our players as an outside mid. 

Hannan - Tackles well, very fast, ball use and decision making pretty good. if his fitness is good enough, he could turn into a quality outside runner

Fritsch - I think he may have played some games as a winger. I was surprised that we played tyson on the wing instead of fritsch in the prelim. A friend of mine suggested his fitness may not be good enough to run through the middle. If he has a big preseason, maybe he turns into a silky outsider. He's apparently very quick.

Hunt - A long shot, but if he has a huge preseason, and comes on in leaps and bounds its not out of the realms of possibility. His poor ball use may be problematic.

Garlett - The longest of long shots, but stranger things have happened. Would need to get his mental game right. But maybe he could play like lewis jetta. 

  On 02/10/2018 at 02:27, Lord Neville X Flash said:

We are all on the same page when it comes to our need for a speedy outside mid who uses the ball well.

It looks like Gaff is not coming, and KK is apprently more of a back flanker. 

Is there any possibility of reinventing one of our players as an outside mid. 

Hannan - Tackles well, very fast, ball use and decision making pretty good. if his fitness is good enough, he could turn into a quality outside runner

Fritsch - I think he may have played some games as a winger. I was surprised that we played tyson on the wing instead of fritsch in the prelim. A friend of mine suggested his fitness may not be good enough to run through the middle. If he has a big preseason, maybe he turns into a silky outsider. He's apparently very quick.

Hunt - A long shot, but if he has a huge preseason, and comes on in leaps and bounds its not out of the realms of possibility. His poor ball use may be problematic.

Garlett - The longest of long shots, but stranger things have happened. Would need to get his mental game right. But maybe he could play like lewis jetta. 

last in GF sprint 

Some nice food for thought here. I'd back Fritsch to become this player, although he may be 2 pre-seasons away from that I reckon. Can certainly see it happening though. Hannan is a maybe for mine, personally haven't watched him closely enough to decide whether he could be this player. Other two won't happen I wouldn't have thought. 

Still have high hopes for Billy Stretch - he was on the point of a breakthrough before injury.

Oskar Baker?? Has potential.

  On 02/10/2018 at 02:35, chook fowler said:

Still have high hopes for Billy Stretch - he was on the point of a breakthrough before injury.

Agree on Stretch. I really liked what I saw from him in 2016, and like you said, he was having a great return to the senior side before injury.

Hope his foot is tracking OK!

Only Hunt of that grouping has the tools necessary to become a run-and-carry winger.

  On 02/10/2018 at 02:33, Sydee said:

last in GF sprint 

Wouldn't read too much into that, Lewis Jetta came second last one year, and he looks like one of the fastest players in the league during games. Half of the runners are probably hung over.

  On 02/10/2018 at 02:38, Is Dom Is Good said:

Oskar Baker?? Has potential.

Yeah this kid is a chance I reckon.

Though he really fell away this year, I wonder if Josh Wagner could?

I'm in the Billy Stretch camp. Feel like he could be our next Nibbler-style development; never going to pretend he's the greatest but will work hard at it and play the role unselfishly and be a steady part of the best 22.

Vote 1  - Oskar Baker

More broadly I don't want to see onepaced inside mids playing on the wing.

Yep have to back Stretch as well. Was looking good.

  On 02/10/2018 at 03:17, demoniac said:

Vote 1  - Oskar Baker

More broadly I don't want to see onepaced inside mids playing on the wing.

Agree 100% re don’t pension slow insiders to the wing

Baker hopefully will come on.   

Fritsch, and Hannan have shown their ability to cope with senior AFL: with another preseason should develop the tank to play this role. 

PS Billy Stretch should be like a new player if his foot heals. 

Edited October 2, 20186 yr by monoccular

Take out the word speedy then we can have a discussion.

Fritsch's aerial work and foot skills make him a good option.

Stretch at times has looked to be a decent option.

Hunt has no idea how to play on the wing.

Not a fan of JKH in the team, his body frame is just so small and is so easy to spoil in aerial contests. He did some solid work late in the season.

Garlett is Garlett and time we move on. Is capable of some good games but I don't think we can trust him again.

I was hoping Hannan would be when he was drafted, but doesn't find enough of the ball.

Kade Kolodjashnij is more than capable of playing on the wing and would be the best option along with Fristch from that list if he can get his confidence back. He was awful this year.

Harmes is a decent option on the wing at times.

I agree with Billy Stretch, was really happy that he came into the team and played well and looked like a full time AFL player really for the first time this year. Hopefully he's foots right and he'll own one wing for years to come.

Another name I'd put on the board would be Joel Smith, I feel like he's not really a key position defender, nor a 3rd forward type, but he does posses very good athletic attributes, so could be turned into a wingman more in the Richo/Riewolt mold than a traditional Gaff/I.Smith. I could see that Smith and Hunt could rotate between wing and defence and be a very hard match up. 

  On 02/10/2018 at 02:27, Lord Neville X Flash said:

We are all on the same page when it comes to our need for a speedy outside mid who uses the ball well.

It looks like Gaff is not coming, and KK is apprently more of a back flanker. 

Is there any possibility of reinventing one of our players as an outside mid. 

Hannan - Tackles well, very fast, ball use and decision making pretty good. if his fitness is good enough, he could turn into a quality outside runner

Fritsch - I think he may have played some games as a winger. I was surprised that we played tyson on the wing instead of fritsch in the prelim. A friend of mine suggested his fitness may not be good enough to run through the middle. If he has a big preseason, maybe he turns into a silky outsider. He's apparently very quick.

Hunt - A long shot, but if he has a huge preseason, and comes on in leaps and bounds its not out of the realms of possibility. His poor ball use may be problematic.

Garlett - The longest of long shots, but stranger things have happened. Would need to get his mental game right. But maybe he could play like lewis jetta. 

OSCAR BAKER.....you  know he plays for our club. Hammy problems out for 6 plus weeks. He is a genuine speedster and  a serious player. A good pre season and will be a lock in somewhere in the side.  MID to a winger.

The other two that we have used this year are Salem and Brayshaw. Both are not slow and both can deliver the ball inside 50. Obviously Salem is the best kick, but I think both of them will be used more on the wing next year. Also remember that James Harmes has played wing for us and he is quick and quite a nice kick. If he is tagging on a wing (Sidebottom, Gaff, etc) then he'd also be there. I agree we do need more depth in this area though and personally I think Billy and Fritsch are the other two I'd run on the wing. 

  On 02/10/2018 at 02:58, Stretch Johnson said:

Yeah this kid is a chance I reckon.

Absolutely, watched the kid play on two occasions. The talent is there, without questions and there were signs that the application had lifted.

Baker but maybe 12 more months.

Hogan? ? 

  On 02/10/2018 at 03:26, monoccular said:

Agree 100% re don’t pension slow insiders to the wing

Baker hopefully will come on.   

Fritsch, and Hannan have shown their ability to cope with senior AFL: with another preseason should develop the tank to play this role. 

PS Billy Stretch should be like a new player if his foot heals. 

Stretch, Hunt, Fritsch, Baker, Hannan - intensified training for speed and outside skills - that's what we need, now. That is a talent list that other teams would surely envy...and all capable of such development.

How about Frost. Tall, strong, can mark, kicks long to position (ask TMac) and runs away from just about anyone. Use him as a target on the way out and as a weapon on the way in.

For those who remember, Richo starred on the wing and, going further back, the toiges used Bourke and Clay, who both played key defence, as wingmen in their heyday.

What a mismatch. Who would want to tag him? Who could keep up in space?

Easy to train and coach. Just tell him to run as hard as he can at the ball and then with the ball.

  On 02/10/2018 at 10:41, tiers said:

How about Frost. Tall, strong, can mark, kicks long to position (ask TMac) and runs away from just about anyone. Use him as a target on the way out and as a weapon on the way in.

For those who remember, Richo starred on the wing and, going further back, the toiges used Bourke and Clay, who both played key defence, as wingmen in their heyday.

What a mismatch. Who would want to tag him? Who could keep up in space?

Easy to train and coach. Just tell him to run as hard as he can at the ball and then with the ball.

Interesting comments.

If he could develop more awareness could be a big thing  

 

Most likely pace in the midfield comes from

Stretch

Hunt

Baker

Obviously an external target is on the cards.