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21 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Bell’s just an idiot. 

Finally, some facts in this shitshow of a thread/trade 

 

If I was Freo I'd be doing the following:

Pick 11 & 23 to GWS for Lobb and pick 14

Neale & pick 49 to Brissy for Pick 5, 2019 2nd round & pick 41

Pick 5 & 14 to Melb for Hogan

We can then send 5 & 32 to GC for May and pick 24

Edited by Is Dom Is Good

47 minutes ago, johndemonic said:

The only issue was Lobbe. Freo want Lobb and i dare say pick 11-20 will get it done, currently they're rejecting 5+23 from Bris. My idea is simply to leave Freo pick 11, we take Bris 5 + 2019 first round pick, they get Neale + The pick/player that gives them fair value for losing a 2019 1st round. Bris would back themselves to finish with pick 8-10 anyway with Neale on board.

Thats fine, then Freo should start 'negotiations' in good faith with the clubs that can help this get done.

Do you think that with the way Melb and Bris are being stuffed around by Freo, that they give a damn about how Freo is able to land Lobb?

Ok, so the current state of things (after 280 odd pages) is that Freo are rejecting an offer from Brisbane that is significantly superior than what they are prepared to offer Melbourne for Hogan. We all know the facts that Hogan is younger, a key forward capable of 50-60 goals a season compared to a very good mid, but there are dozens of very good mids in the competition to be fair, most clubs have 3-4 very good mids. How many 50-60 goal forwards to these clubs have. How many do Freo have, or have they had since Pav retired? 

The problem is that Freo seem ignorant to how desperately they need Hogan! 

Edited by Ouch!

 
4 minutes ago, Demon Spofforth said:

Agreed. Lobb is worth pick 23.

Club supporters overrate their own players and undervalue those from other clubs. 

GWS will demand a first round pick for Lobb. 10  - 16 range.

Bell has the intelligence of a dropped cumquat. He's an utter dipsh*t and it's both laughable and terrifying he is employed in his position.

Hopefully someone around him talks some sense into him so he doesn't destroy that already pathetic waste of a club further. Their list is in real trouble, and he's not doing them any favors at present.


1 minute ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Club supporters overrate their own players and undervalue those from other clubs. 

GWS will demand a first round pick for Lobb. 10  - 16 range.

I agree his value in trade terms would be higher than 23. I reckon he’s an average player though. 

7 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Club supporters overrate their own players and undervalue those from other clubs. 

From 2011-2015 I was the opposite of this.

We are trading a 23 year old possible champion forward, for a 27 year old defender, who will probably play on him when the teams meet.

 
15 minutes ago, EnterTheDragon said:

Club supporters overrate their own players and undervalue those from other clubs. 

GWS will demand a first round pick for Lobb. 10  - 16 range.

I agree with the bit about club fans over/undervaluing certain players.

But Lobb hasn't done an awful lot. Shown some glimpses, especially with contested marking, but had a very average 2018.

He's probably similar to Hibbo then (shown glimpses but no standout) and we gave up pick 29 for him.

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1 minute ago, Redleg said:

We are trading a 23 year old possible champion forward, for a 27 year old defender, who will probably play on him when the teams meet.

We are trying to win a flag.
I back our guys 100%


2 minutes ago, Redleg said:

We are trading a 23 year old possible champion forward, for a 27 year old defender, who will probably play on him when the teams meet.

I like the football/soccer rule of being cup tied - lets have a clause that Jesse cannot play against us ongoing...

Josh Mahoney is a pro.  He will run rings around Peter Bellend.

 

24 minutes ago, Is Dom Is Good said:

If I was Freo I'd be doing the following:

Pick 11 & 23 to GWS for Lobb and pick 14

Neale & pick 49 to Brissy for Pick 5, 2019 2nd round & pick 41

Pick 5 & 14 to Melb for Hogan

We can then send 5 & 32 to GC for May and pick 24

5&14 to me just about nails Hogan’s trade worth in my mind. 

Dr Turf just said that the 4 way trade is done and it’s just some minor details to work out. 

 

Wallace and Barrett are going to revisit the Neale delay with Freo and how it affects Hogan blah blah blah..

Coming up soon if you're not listening to trade radio.


Just now, Demons11 said:

Dr Turf just said that the 4 way trade is done and it’s just some minor details to work out. 

 

elaborate please

1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

Dr Turf just said that the 4 way trade is done and it’s just some minor details to work out. 

 

 

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:
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Breaking - Fremantle has pulled out of race for Jesse Hogan @AFLcomau

9:18 PM - 11 Oct 2018

I'm glad that's cleared up.


1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

Dr Turf just said that the 4 way trade is done and it’s just some minor details to work out. 

 

 

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

Wallace and Barrett are going to revisit the Neale delay with Freo and how it affects Hogan blah blah blah..

Coming up soon if you're not listening to trade radio.

 

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Breaking - Fremantle has pulled out of race for Jesse Hogan @AFLcomau

9:18 PM - 11 Oct 2018

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Amateurs. No doubt Josh will have Plan B to get Steven May.

 

“We have been undertaking a due diligence process as part of a possible trade to secure Jesse Hogan. “As part of that process, we have had discussions with Jesse, the player’s management and Melb. (1/2)

(2/2)“While discussions were proceeding it became clear that what Melbourne would be seeking for a trade would not be possible for our club to meet. “As such, we have informed Melbourne and Jesse’s management that we will not be continuing further with the due diligence process.”

- Bell

12 minutes ago, Redleg said:

We are trading a 23 year old possible champion forward, for a 27 year old defender, who will probably play on him when the teams meet.

Who comes out on top.

There's the real answer to relative values in all of this trading ( for me )


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