3 minutes ago, chookrat said:

This has Gary Pert's grubby fingers all over it

Huh ???

26 minutes ago, chookrat said:

This has Gary Pert's grubby fingers all over it

At first I thought what drugs are you on but on reflection I see where you are coming from.

27 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Huh ???

Bb it may appear that im drawing a long bow but hear me out. 

1. Viney's toe didn't flare up until after Pert's appointment was announced.

2. He has brought Collingwoods injury woes here with him. 

3. The fish rots from the head. 

4. Stop the boats. 

5. It's the vibe, its Marbo. 

I hope this clears things up. 

6 minutes ago, chookrat said:

Bb it may appear that im drawing a long bow but hear me out. 

1. Viney's toe didn't flare up until after Pert's appointment was announced.

2. He has brought Collingwoods injury woes here with him. 

3. The fish rots from the head. 

4. Stop the boats. 

5. It's the vibe, its Marbo. 

I hope this clears things up. 

Most certainly....

Personally I'm blaming the #4 bloke anyway.

If Jack’s out for an extended period ie 4+ weeks, it opens the door for Aaron to crash his way back into the midfield, and Salem to get another extended run.

Love Vandenbergs appetite for the game as the intensity lifts, he’s my wildcard for the run into and finals. .. 

Amazing maturity in the depth of the players revealed by this ( and demonland)

Co captain and toughest player out of the side and virtually no one slashing wrists

mostly working through the options with a positive view and very little MFCSS 

great to read  and we do have options 

keep him out for an extra week just to be sure to be sure !

Go Dees

13 hours ago, monoccular said:

Spartacus, the (legendary) rebellious Roman gladiator

Im Spartacus!

interesting that goodwin says the injury is 'different' to last year / this year's foot injury

not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-14/star-demon-a-late-out-as-injury-strikes-again

Here's  a bit more info from the AFL site:

"It's a funny one. He was a little bit sore (on Friday), so we had a scan and there were some early signs of stress on that toe and really we didn't want to push him," Goodwin told reporters.

"We need to get that right. We don't want to get to a stage where he can't play.

7 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-07-14/star-demon-a-late-out-as-injury-strikes-again

Here's  a bit more info from the AFL site:

"It's a funny one. He was a little bit sore (on Friday), so we had a scan and there were some early signs of stress on that toe and really we didn't want to push him," Goodwin told reporters.

"We need to get that right. We don't want to get to a stage where he can't play.

But he couldn't play yesterday.

Salem is another player who has showed he can go on ball and win clearances if needed. Great as Jack is we are well stocked for inside mids, it'll hurt us to some extent but every team is dealing with injuries. Kennedy did his back for Sydney, Nic Nat knee at West Coast, Collingwood Treloar etc...

Oliver: 

"Melbourne star Clayton Oliver says he and Angus Brayshaw can help fill some of the leadership void left by Jack Viney...[Angus and I] try just get the boys going and say what we need to say.”

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/demon-driver-oliver-gets-more-vocal-in-viney-s-absence-20180715-p4zrnj.html

Shows how much our youth is maturing to be ready and willing to take on the extra responsibility. 

We will miss JV no end but we are in a better position to cover him this year than last.  We have Gus in and everyone has another year of development behind them.  Hopefully, Jack will be back soon.

9 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

interesting that goodwin says the injury is 'different' to last year / this year's foot injury

not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing

That girl on Gameday said while it’s not the same injury, it’s a hot spot related to the previous injury (stress and pressure moves elsewhere on the foot), may be a career problem and one they’ll need to manage.

9 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

interesting that goodwin says the injury is 'different' to last year / this year's foot injury

not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing

I'm not thinking this is anything good ...either way.

4 hours ago, monoccular said:

But he couldn't play yesterday.

He could play me thinks but if he did play there would be the possibility of it developing into worse things

 

16 hours ago, PaulRB said:

If Jack’s out for an extended period ie 4+ weeks, it opens the door for Aaron to crash his way back into the midfield, and Salem to get another extended run.

Love Vandenbergs appetite for the game as the intensity lifts, he’s my wildcard for the run into and finals. .. 

Vanders is a September Wildcard along with Jayden Hunt.

Couple of weeks off and back for Adelaide and it will settle down.

6 hours ago, Win4theAges said:

Couple of weeks off and back for Adelaide and it will settle down.

So, Win, you are privy to the exact details of the injury and the scan results?

Is it just me or is anyone not as stressed about this than the Lever loss?

10 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is it just me or is anyone not as stressed about this than the Lever loss?

I think we have the midfield depth to cover him well enough, especially as we did so earlier in the season.  Covering a potential AA key position player is harder to do.

15 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is it just me or is anyone not as stressed about this than the Lever loss?

For me, Lever > Viney.

12 hours ago, beelzebub said:

I'm not thinking this is anything good ...either way.

Yep. Sounds likely that Viney is probably going to spend the balance of his career managing this foot. 

The reassuring thing is he’s the sort who will leave no stone unturned in working out the best way to do that. Hopefully the issues reduce over time.

4 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Yep. Sounds likely that Viney is probably going to spend the balance of his career managing this foot. 

The reassuring thing is he’s the sort who will leave no stone unturned in working out the best way to do that. Hopefully the issues reduce over time.

I think the biggest positive also is this time Viney self reported it to the club early, in the past he would have been pushing to play on. He now understands the seriousness of it and put the club first, instead of himself. A big win in change of mindset IMO.

22 hours ago, defuture15 said:

Im Spartacus!

No, I'm Spartacus!

54 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Is it just me or is anyone not as stressed about this than the Lever loss?

We have been going gangbusters against the top 8 sides and finals are a doddle so yeah, no biggie with Lever gone......