Brendan McCartney - Moved to the bench

[beelzebub 23,390]

Footy just isnt this hard surely

[Dee Zephyr 19,290]

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mate you're a troll and have no idea what you're even talking about..

Thank you and what about this....

 

14 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Check the vision, he is aiways down on the bench, Roos was at the club 2 years ago, the whole set up has changed in that time, why woukd Macca who likes to be close to the action move into the bax, beggars belief.

 

 

[rjay 25,362]

47 minutes ago, binman said:

Again i wonder about the external communication by the dees. Add this to the growing list of communication blunders (the departure of watts, the camp, the silence after the round 23 pies game, the woeful website etc).

I mean as if in the AFL fishbowl that exists in Melbourne someone was not going to pick this story up (and really it is unbelievable it was a person contracted by the MFC who ran with it). Sheesh.

Comms 101 is to get ahead of stories, which could have easily happened in a casual, informal way. For eg mahoney booking a interview on the weekend  and responding to the inevitable question about how we respond to last weeks game, with an answer like:

 'We have looked at the game as an opportunity to improve all all aspects of how we go about things, including how we can better communicate key messages to our players when the opposition gets a run on. It is easy to forget how young our list is and we have two key leaders in TMac and Jack out so this week we are going to have Macca go back to his role that he played so brilliantly for the last 3 years as a key person communicating directly to players on the bench and conveying messages from the box'

Do we do this? No, instead once again we are reactive and in damage control.

And to be honest comments such as:

'That’s been the change and there isn’t much more to add to it than that.' begs the question 

'well perhaps there is not much more to add but i'm really interested in the bit you are leaving out '

Amateur hour.

Sorry 'binman' but I don't see what the communication issue is here. You're jumping at shadows.

Surely the club don't have to put out a comm on every movement made by anyone within the club.

Clubs continually have people moving between the box and bench, sometimes even the senior coach spends more time on the bench.

It's only a story if Macca is p....off and leaked it. Then it's a staff issue not a comm issue and needs to be sorted internally.

Otherwise it's someone causing trouble about something that's a non issue, again not a comm issue.

[Caligula's cohort 1,014]

With Macca back down on the bench, he can let the players know that bombing the ball inside forward 50 doesn't actually work. Especially when you only have one key forward who is up the ground most of the time. I'm still astounded that we didn't change our forward entries for the entire game against the Hawks. So much for the secret training in Port Melbourne the other week...

[What 18,810]

14 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Yes,  that is his Matchday role, he is never in the box, what a [censored] joke and the usual nuff nuffs on here  run with it

 

 

14 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

Saty, I know you think you know it all. 

But this was reported by a Melbourne supporter who does the offical podcast weekly. It was also said with Paul Roos ,who would have knowledge of each persons role within the football department, sitting next to him.

If he says he was in the box the last 4 weeks, I know who I am believing.

 

14 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I was of the understanding McCartney has been in the coaches box so far this season as he has been assisting Chaplin with backline coaching duties. 

 

14 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Check the vision, he is aiways down on the bench, Roos was at the club 2 years ago, the whole set up has changed in that time, why woukd Macca who likes to be close to the action move into the bax, beggars belief.

Thre reason the journo does the podcast is to provide an independent voice so the said same nuff nuffs don't whinge about it being a puff piece

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14 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

I would love for you to show me some vision or direct me to it, of McCartney on the bench in the opening 4 rounds.

Essentially you are saying he has made up this story.

The Brayshaw piece, while a buch of fluff essentially just said Fremantle would be interested in Brayshaw. I don't see how Brayshaw would find that insulting. If you interpreted it differently, that is on you and Angus, not him.

 

 

12 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Not 100% sure but is that McCartney between Chaplin and Mahoney? 

Footage provided by  @Lucifer's Hero  a few days ago.

 

12 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Thats B Mac alright.

 

12 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

So Saty is “ On Track “ again with the below.

 

 

5 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

This year he has been on the box, in previous years he was on the bench.

 

4 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Yes lets wait for Saty....

oh hang on...

 

3 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

He's been doing both at various times during the games, the Club always says it tries different things,  the Club has killed the 'story', if there was one in the first place,  honestly talk about feeding the trolls on here

@jnrmac   before the game, find a dark room, have a lie down, you will never last the game, I have spoken privately to a couple of Digs players, nothing but praise for McCartney, and no it wasn't 'supporter talk' , prefer to believe the Bont,  who stated in publicly as well over you

 

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Koolaid....get your Koolaid !! 

 

30 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mate you're a troll and have no idea what you're even talking about..

 

22 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Thank you and what about this....

 

 

 

Looks like Saty owes an apology to the 'nuff nuffs'.

Once again he is spectacularly wrong. Embarrassing stuff.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Petraccattack

[Leoncelli_36 2,264]

15 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Would be interested in the views of  @Leoncelli_36 on this matter 

My view is that I saw McCartney standing with Goody on Sunday at the VFL. There didn't seem to be any ill feeling. I'd say that perhaps there has been some conflicting messages and goody wants control. I will see my club source on Saturday and will see what he has for me.  

[Wiseblood 24,637]

3 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

He's been doing both at various times during the games, the Club always says it tries different things,  the Club has killed the 'story', if there was one in the first place,  honestly talk about feeding the trolls on here

@jnrmac

So one minute he is never in the box, the next minute he does both during games...? 

Why anybody listens to a thing you say or backs you up in anything is totally beyond me.

[binman 44,735]

25 minutes ago, rjay said:

Sorry 'binman' but I don't see what the communication issue is here. You're jumping at shadows.

Surely the club don't have to put out a comm on every movement made by anyone within the club.

Clubs continually have people moving between the box and bench, sometimes even the senior coach spends more time on the bench.

It's only a story if Macca is p....off and leaked it. Then it's a staff issue not a comm issue and needs to be sorted internally.

Otherwise it's someone causing trouble about something that's a non issue, again not a comm issue.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one rjay. I don't think they should put out comms for every little thing, i think they should have been a little clever and mentioned it in an informal way to manage the 'narrative'

Why - because even if not leaked it would have been noticed during the game that Maccas was not in the box and in the hot house that is the AFL in this town had the potential to become a story. 

And my evidence? It did become a story and Mahoney had to react to it. 

[Redleg 42,054]

4 hours ago, Go the Biff said:

Josh Mahoney's response - SEN

Must be wrong, itsounds so logical and simple.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Redleg

[rjay 25,362]

2 minutes ago, binman said:

And my evidence? It did become a story and Mahoney had to react to it. 

That's not evidence 'binman'...

The story or non story (mischief) was not that he had been moved down to the bench.

That's all a comm could have said and it would have been a waste of space and time.

True or not the story was Macca wasn't happy with the move.

What comm would you suggest they should have put out there?

[Roger Mellie 4,180]

18 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

My view is that I saw McCartney standing with Goody on Sunday at the VFL. There didn't seem to be any ill feeling. I'd say that perhaps there has been some conflicting messages and goody wants control. I will see my club source on Saturday and will see what he has for me.  

Sounds all plausible. It could also be just a case of McCartney being more suited to arresting the possibility of players throwing in the towel again at ground level. Appreciate your feedback and anything further that may arise. Cheers

[Ethan Tremblay 31,289]

Is Tom Morris a newcomer trying to make a name for himself by any chance? 

[Ugottobekidding 1,244]

Hi heard that Maca wanted to play Watts at half back but goody said that is impossible. When Macs question why, good said he is no longer at the club. Maca said who was the idiot who authorised that? GOODY said me. Maca said that's it. I am leaving the Bulldogs.

[ding 5,126]

I choose to believe anything that paints my club in a negative light.

I will also blame this obviously true revelation when we lose tonight.

I KNEW we were in trouble off field and this confirms my view 100%

We are a rabble.

Tigers by 100 points.

 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,783]

We have been invaded by more trolls.

Massive overreaction. The Mole Morris should be sacked immediately.

Who does this to their own club really?

[SFebes 4,884]

2 hours ago, bluey said:

Mahoney says it’s vital the club displays our brand of football tonight, what if they don’t, sounds like an ultimatum.

 

2 hours ago, binman said:

Again i wonder about the external communication by the dees. Add this to the growing list of communication blunders (the departure of watts, the camp, the silence after the round 23 pies game, the woeful website etc).

I mean as if in the AFL fishbowl that exists in Melbourne someone was not going to pick this story up (and really it is unbelievable it was a person contracted by the MFC who ran with it). Sheesh.

Comms 101 is to get ahead of stories, which could have easily happened in a casual, informal way. For eg mahoney booking a interview on the weekend  and responding to the inevitable question about how we respond to last weeks game, with an answer like:

 'We have looked at the game as an opportunity to improve all all aspects of how we go about things, including how we can better communicate key messages to our players when the opposition gets a run on. It is easy to forget how young our list is and we have two key leaders in TMac and Jack out so this week we are going to have Macca go back to his role that he played so brilliantly for the last 3 years as a key person communicating directly to players on the bench and conveying messages from the box'

Do we do this? No, instead once again we are reactive and in damage control.

And to be honest comments such as:

'That’s been the change and there isn’t much more to add to it than that.' begs the question 

'well perhaps there is not much more to add but i'm really interested in the bit you are leaving out '

Amateur hour.

 

40 minutes ago, binman said:

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one rjay. I don't think they should put out comms for every little thing, i think they should have been a little clever and mentioned it in an informal way to manage the 'narrative'

Why - because even if not leaked it would have been noticed during the game that Maccas was not in the box and in the hot house that is the AFL in this town had the potential to become a story. 

And my evidence? It did become a story and Mahoney had to react to it. 

I feel a bit sick about this, may be nothing but let’s hope we can put it behind us and not get flogged for it to raise its ugly head again. Who the hell is this Morris guy?

[Demon trucker 1,800]

This is a bit like essendon playing stringer in the midfield and hooker in the forward did not work in round 4 hooker went back and stringer went forward, it worked, you put people where they are  best suit for the team, BM is best suited on the  bench, sometimes clubs try something different and it doesn't work, then they go back to what did work.

Edited April 24, 2018 by don't make me angry

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Mate you're a troll and have no idea what you're even talking about..

Takes one to know one me ol'Dazzle

[Ethan Tremblay 31,289]

6 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Takes one to know one me ol'Dazzle

Dazzle is in no way a troll.

You were just caught out making stuff up as you go. Cop it on the chin.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looks like Saty owes an apology to the 'nuff nuffs'.

Once again he is spectacularly wrong. Embarrassing stuff.

His matchday role has been on the bench, they tried something different, it didn't work, so back to his normal role, no grassy knolls in sight for the nuff nuffs to cling to

The paranoia on display sometimes amuses me, mostly I think it is sheer stupidity

Good try my littke tacker but no, now back under the duvet

[Gator 18,021]

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

His matchday role has been on the bench, they tried something different, it didn't work, so back to his normal role, no grassy knolls in sight for the nuff nuffs to cling to

The paranoia on display sometimes amuses me, mostly I think it is sheer stupidity

Good try my littke tacker but no, now back under the duvet

Here I was thinking this chap might just show some dignity and admit he got it wrong.

After-all, he said McCartney is NEVER in the coaches box.

Unfortunately, and I shouldn't be surprised, he's not man enough.

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

2 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Dazzle is in no way a troll.

You were just caught out for making stuff up as you go. Cop it on the chin.

Making stuff up ????  please you do realise this is a publuc forum full of keyboard experts, I have no need whatsoever to explain myself on here, laughable old chap

What I put was correct they were trying a fifferent tack, it dididn't work, nothing to do with a rift, McCartney's tenure at the Dogs etc etc

Did you know thecrwal reason Viney is now banned from the box is that Goody thinks he is malingering?????

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,089]

14 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Not 100% sure but is that McCartney between Chaplin and Mahoney? 

Footage provided by  @Lucifer's Hero  a few days ago.

Irrespective of who's who, that's a lot of people in the coach's box. I'm not sure if I was senior coach I'd want that many people all trying to advise me. If, however, half or even two-thirds of them are just there to watch and can keep their mouths shut, I could live with that.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,289]

4 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Making stuff up ????  please you do realise this is a publuc forum full of keyboard experts, I have no need whatsoever to explain myself on here, laughable old chap

What I put was correct they were trying a fifferent tack, it dididn't work, nothing to do with a rift, McCartney's tenure at the Dogs etc etc

Did you know thecrwal reason Viney is now banned from the box is that Goody thinks he is malingering?????

You said McCartney is never is the box. You changed your story when footage emerged of McCartney in the coaches box. It’s ok to be wrong, take the hit and move on Saty.

Edited April 24, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

3 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Here I was thinking this chap might just show some dignity and admit he got it wrong.

After-all, he said McCartney is NEVER in the coaches box.

Unfortunately, and I shouldn't be surprised, he's not man enough.

Man enough, from heroes who hide behind nicknanes, tough guy, the Club had to [censored] on the fire on an experiment that didn't work, my point, now listen, is that it was in no way a problem as his role had always been on the bench previously

Besides which I can say what I like on here, like some of you more colouful sermons, grow up