7 hours ago, mdemon said:

Regardless of who comes into the team, can we please see at lotional change with Lever being sent forward to play on Rance.

Jeremy McGovern aside, Rance is the premier intercept marking defender in the comp (who is also very adept as a 3rd man up to effect the spoil).

Rance will take Lever to the ball and thereby refresh Lever's acknowledged and much-heralded ability to read the play.

At the very least, Lever would hopefully be able to negate Rance's influence and thus neutralise one of Richmond's most effective play makers.

Lever one on one with Rance...no thanks.  Rance would rag doll him and run off him as he's still regaining his feet and ruin any sceric of confidence the guy might have left.

Rance will be going to Hulk most likely even if Lever was played up forward

Well Lewis should have been dropped but is injured. However he would not have been dropped because some players are like cricket and NSW.

Well big event re the Tigers game.

A close friend who I have gone to most games with over the last 20 years informed me this morning he has gone to his last game.

He said he has finally come to the conclusion there are better ways to spend 4 hours of your life than being part of the MFC.

I am astounded I thought he would be there at the last ever game.

Sad am I!

8 minutes ago, old dee said:

Well big event re the Tigers game.

A close friend who I have gone to most games with over the last 20 years informed me this morning he has gone to his last game.

He said he has finally come to the conclusion there are better ways to spend 4 hours of your life than being part of the MFC.

I am astounded I thought he would be there at the last ever game.

Sad am I!

did the member survey this week.

name 4 words that come to mind when you think of melbourne... had to include weak and frustrating.

we'll never be successful off field until we find success and consistency on it.

sad to hear old dee. I'm sure we'll keep bleeding members and supporters until we stop this pattern.

4 minutes ago, Brownie said:

did the member survey this week.

name 4 words that come to mind when you think of melbourne... had to include weak and frustrating.

we'll never be successful off field until we find success and consistency on it.

sad to hear old dee. I'm sure we'll keep bleeding members and supporters until we stop this pattern.

Honestly I am in shock I thought I would turn it in long before him. 

Did the same survey and had a few different words but none of them were successful, enjoyable or winners.

On 4/16/2018 at 12:37 PM, Clint Bizkit said:

Out: Bugg, Melksham, Harmes, Frost

In: Hannan, Hunt, Tyson, Pedersen

 

Out: Bugg, Melksham, Harmes, Lewis (injured)

In: Hannan, Hunt, Tyson, Pedersen

56 minutes ago, old dee said:

Honestly I am in shock I thought I would turn it in long before him. 

Did the same survey and had a few different words but none of them were successful, enjoyable or winners.

I feel that we all expected a break out year. Last week suggests we would be lucky to play finals.

At least we will see if this club will try this week alas old dees friend wont be the last.

I hope not......failing to make finals this year would suggest more dark times ahead.

At least 4 changes this week. At least let them know mediocrity will not be tolerated.

If we win and its a bloody huge if.......there is a glimmer of light.

I'm not even going to listen to it .......

 

18 minutes ago, doc roet said:

I'm not even going to listen to it .......

 

Preserving your sanity doc?

Edited April 18, 20186 yr by old dee

1 hour ago, leave it to deever said:

I feel that we all expected a break out year. Last week suggests we would be lucky to play finals.

At least we will see if this club will try this week alas old dees friend wont be the last.

I hope not......failing to make finals this year would suggest more dark times ahead.

At least 4 changes this week. At least let them know mediocrity will not be tolerated.

If we win and its a bloody huge if.......there is a glimmer of light.

I didn't expect a break out year. I have supported MFC since 1968. I expect very little. e.g. I expected MFC to lose to the filth last year (Round 23) and even for Max to miss that shot v Geelong in Round 1. 

So when something unexpected happens (e.g. beating Adelaide last year) I am pleasantly/genuinely surprised. Unfortunately these happenings are all too rare.

On reflection, I think this is actually about selecting for the next two games.  Given the short timeframe between games, the way we select to give ourselves the best chance of winning both games, we will need to explore the depths of the roster.  Selection has to be about what is going to serve us best across both games.  We may need to look at resting certain players in the bombers game, particularly older hands that may not pull up as fast.  I would expect a few changes for structure this week, and perhaps a significant number of changes for week 2.  I could see guys like Bernie and maybe even Jones being spelled for one of the games.  In terms of midfield, I could see us switching out 3 or 4 for rested types who played at Casey on the weeend, with an extra 3 or so days recovery.  Maynard, Balic and the like will probably be subbed in.  The bombers, who also have a short gap between games, will be in the same boat.  It may be the fittest team/ one with the deepest roster wins.  We may see a few debuts over the next two matches.

21 hours ago, mongrel said:

I too expect Bugg to play. Did he stuff up his opportunities? yes. But he is always heavily involved in our forward entries as a pest who draws free kicks, an opportunist crumber or makes a genuine contest in the air for his smaller size. I definitely can't say the same of Melksham. I hope he gets replaced with Hannan who can have a greater impact up forwards

 

18 hours ago, Garbo said:

I always find it interesting that people always focus on the negatives of a player, ie they missed the shot, stuffed the kick, turned it over ect. It’s almost as if they would prefer a player who made no mistakes but in doing so did nothing in the first place. 

On that can someond explain why they would have Bugg out before Garlett or Fritsch this week.

I mean he had more shots on goal, more tackles and more score involvements than both of them. It seems like people would prefer he had 1 shot and 5 disposals like Garlett 

It is amazing to me that people continue to support Bugg. Do you ever wonder why it is that he gets shots on goal?

It is because his opponents don't respect him and know that he won't hurt them if he gets possessions inside 50. Far better to play 2 on 1 against Hogan, and leave Bugg free, rather than allowing Hogan to compete 1 v 1 and wasting someone on Bugg. 

It wasn't just his missed shots either, it is also the three-grab chest marks that prevent him from playing on quickly and the numberous ground ball fumbles.

There will be big changes this week, at least five.   We have a 4 day break after it and that will come into calculations at this weeks selection

In -       Pedersen,    Hannan,  Tyson,  JKH,  Hunt,  Stretch

Out -     Melksham,   Frost,   Lewis,  Wagner,  Fritsch,  Bugg

 

I'd expect at least Frost and the best performer out of Fritsch/Melksham at Casey to come back in vs Essendon , and possibly Vince and one or two others to be rested for that game. 

Will be interesting to see Richmonds changes.

Edited April 18, 20186 yr by Petraccattack

2 hours ago, doc roet said:

I'm not even going to listen to it .......

 

But Doc, we need you there......at CHB standing toe to toe like you used to.....long arms and awkward body repeatedly punching the ball with the occasional overhead mark with those long arms. Frustrating the opposition as they try and find a way around you.

My God, we need you there holding the back line together.

I know you have slowed up, but we have plenty of younger fellas who can crumb and run. 

Edited April 18, 20186 yr by hemingway

The following players have their supporters for inclusion this week:

Hunt, Balic, J. Smith, T. Smith, Hannan, JKH, Stretch, Weideman, Spargo, Johnstone, Tyson and Baker. Some of you blokes need to take a long hard look in the mirror.

Based on some posters selection criteria, Daisy Pearce must be close to a call up also.

Richmond changes will be;

OUT- Graham

IN- Broad

2 hours ago, bingers said:

I didn't expect a break out year. I have supported MFC since 1968. I expect very little. e.g. I expected MFC to lose to the filth last year (Round 23) and even for Max to miss that shot v Geelong in Round 1. 

So when something unexpected happens (e.g. beating Adelaide last year) I am pleasantly/genuinely surprised. Unfortunately these happenings are all too rare.

Thanks Mr Bingers

I will try to follow your lead and lower expectations. ........ It will help my sanity.

Cheers

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

But Doc, we need you there......at CHB standing toe to toe like you used to.....long arms and awkward body repeatedly punching the ball with the occasional overhead mark with those long arms. Frustrating the opposition as they try and find a way around you.

My God, we need you there holding the back line together.

I know you have slowed up, but we have plenty of younger fellas who can crumb and run. 

Oh alright Ernest, I'll ring up Neil,Bernie, Don and see if I can get hold of Tassie, and see if we can get a game because I don't think I can do it all myself.

37 minutes ago, ProperDee said:

The following players have their supporters for inclusion this week:

Hunt, Balic, J. Smith, T. Smith, Hannan, JKH, Stretch, Weideman, Spargo, Johnstone, Tyson and Baker. Some of you blokes need to take a long hard look in the mirror.

Based on some posters selection criteria, Daisy Pearce must be close to a call up also.

Can we pop her on the rookie list?  She is awesome, and would play with more heart than we saw on the weekend

On 4/15/2018 at 6:39 PM, Jibroni said:

Might be a bit early but I will have a go:

Ins: Hunt, Weideman and J Smith

Out: Bugg, Harmes and Wagner (Lewis and Melksham on thin ice).

 

Tyson for Lewis

Hannan for Harmes

Hunt for Melksham

TSmith for Bugg

 

22 hours ago, poita said:

 

It is amazing to me that people continue to support Bugg. Do you ever wonder why it is that he gets shots on goal?

It is because his opponents don't respect him and know that he won't hurt them if he gets possessions inside 50. Far better to play 2 on 1 against Hogan, and leave Bugg free, rather than allowing Hogan to compete 1 v 1 and wasting someone on Bugg. 

It wasn't just his missed shots either, it is also the three-grab chest marks that prevent him from playing on quickly and the numberous ground ball fumbles.

It didnt work to ignore Bugg when he kicked four against North.

Is it even conceivable, probable and even likely that the team had one of those 'bad' games?

The group have a challenge in front of them

Pederson must come in.  As for the game I will be there with little or no expectation of winning.  We do not intimidate any teams!  The perception is real, we do not hurt sides and get bullied too easy.  

23 hours ago, doc roet said:

Oh alright Ernest, I'll ring up Neil,Bernie, Don and see if I can get hold of Tassie, and see if we can get a game because I don't think I can do it all myself.

Can we just put Grinter and Jackovich straight back in ??

38 minutes ago, Soidee said:

Pederson must come in.  As for the game I will be there with little or no expectation of winning.  We do not intimidate any teams!  The perception is real, we do not hurt sides and get bullied too easy.  

I feel we intimidate teams when one certain Jack Viney is playing.. I know that might sound weird, but I've spoken to an opposition player recently who mentioned that some players, especially younger ones actually fear Viney due to his hardness and strength around the contest. Some rate him as one of the hardest players in the AFL. I feel like when he plays and is up and going, our side goes up a notch in terms of hardness and willing to intimidate opposition.