On 4/11/2018 at 11:13 AM, BigFez said:

Just had a wander over to the Hawks Big Footy forum.  

 

BF...no good ever comes from such ventures. They drink their own waste water !! ( Think about it )

They have had a little success in the modern game. Take no notice. 

Gus for Dom is logical.  The only question for me is do we retain Fritta's coolness and superior strength overhead, or opt for  Mitch Hannan as an additional mid rotation?

I really rate Tyson and he was excellent in 2016 when we rolled a top of the table Hawthorn.  While I think Brayshaw will be a very good player, he’s not at Tyson’s level yet, so this inclusion is a net loss for me.

Hannan’s inclusion is interesting  and seeing his name along side Fritsch on the extended bench is going to be a common problem for the match committee.

I predict just the one change though.

 

5 hours ago, DeezNuts said:

Noting the secret training session today, anyone seen Viney or TMAC around Melbourne today?

Nope, but the thought process in which you engage within this question is highly stimulating...

Assuming two of the extended bench are kept as emergencies and therefore do not play Saturday night my hunch is Brayshaw in for Tyson with Stretch and Hannan kept as the emergencies.

Would be surprised if Gus is given a run with role on Mitchell, I think he would do well.

20 minutes ago, Doodle Dee said:

Age obviously dictates plans, but I recall this line being said a year ago, until the let down of Weeds first month last year had everyone demanding Pederson be brought in.

Nah, mate.

If Gawn was injured Pedersen would be in straight away and do a good job as an undersized follower.  But as a dedicated key forward he's no good and won't be recalled if Tom McDonald or Weideman are available.

The club has handled Weideman perfectly and he'll repay the favour when they deem him ready.

54 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

 

Out -  Fritsch

I just hope we go hard at Mitchell and that giant f l o g Sicily. 

49 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I said both players wouldn't be dropped.  I'm not sure what you're missing here, Pates.

Pretty safe to assume he is missing the word won’t...

Mmmm Brayshaw for Tyson seems obvious ....but no Pedo....   ???

10 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

1 goal, 11 p’s and 0 tackles last week. 

Which stat makes him a certain starter. 

9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

1 goal, 11 p’s and 0 tackles last week. 

Which stat makes him a certain starter. 

None. I’m just a big fan. 

Weid relief for Max also makes sense. Just save the Fritsch. 

It was interesting to hear Dermies thoughts on this game (something you can't always say about Derm). He was pretty confident that the hawks can knock us off if their young backline holds up. I wasn't really aware they're that young as they have Frawley and Sicily who is relatively experienced. But if that is the case that they're young/inexperienced let's hope that's an area the coaching staff have reviewed and can try and exploit. 

What is our strategy when naming a large extended bench?

it’s obviously not to keep them guessing because everyone knows Garlett plays. 

It’s not to give the 50 50 guys a chance because Tyson would be there.

Reward the form at Casey and Balic probably gets on the extended bench.

i can’t work it out.

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Will the multitude of Pedersen lovers finally work out he's not in the coach's plans ?

He's no key forward and Weideman is clearly ahead of him.

No

Fritsch averaged 12 disposals and a bit over 2 goals per game for Casey last year.  He was robbed of 12 disposals and 2 goals last weekend.

Those expecting much different this year don't understand the player or what his contribution will be at AFL in 2018.  

If he keeps his pressure up and keeps taking contested marks, hitting the scoreboard, and showing flashes of brilliance he'll get regular games.  He's a special talent that's wasted at VFL level.

 

26 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

What is our strategy when naming a large extended bench?

it’s obviously not to keep them guessing because everyone knows Garlett plays. 

It’s not to give the 50 50 guys a chance because Tyson would be there.

Reward the form at Casey and Balic probably gets on the extended bench.

i can’t work it out.

Sunday game, perhaps?

7 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Sunday game, perhaps?

Haha get that. Just don’t get who they have named, who they haven’t  named and why.

Hunt is one of my favourite players but he should not be named.

Garlett is in AA form and named on the bench.

Balic is more likely to impact a game than Weid

perhaps I am reading too much into it.

16 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Fritsch averaged 12 disposals and a bit over 2 goals per game for Casey last year.  He was robbed of 12 disposals and 2 goals last weekend.

Those expecting much different this year don't understand the player or what his contribution will be at AFL in 2018.  

If he keeps his pressure up and keeps taking contested marks, hitting the scoreboard, and showing flashes of brilliance he'll get regular games.  He's a special talent that's wasted at VFL level.

 

What he has done so far when the ball is in his space has been sublime and probably of similar output across the 3 rounds, My observation is he hasn't got to as many contests and his tackle count has certainly dropped over the first three weeks.   This is the basis why I think he may get dropped this round if we choose to bring in Weid. If not for Weid he should continue his development in the seniors as agree his has some serious attributes.

I hope Garlett is not carrying an injury and may be doubtful.

2 minutes ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

What he has done so far when the ball is in his space has been sublime and probably of similar output across the 3 rounds, My observation is he hasn't got to as many contests and his tackle count has certainly dropped over the first three weeks.   This is the basis why I think he may get dropped this round if we choose to bring in Weid. If not for Weid he should continue his development in the seniors as agree his has some serious attributes.

I would have said Hannan.

Fritsch and Hannan are both goal kickers with freakish talents. It comes down to defensive pressure as to who plays.

I’d have Weed in for Tyson. I reckon we need more height up forward with hogan playing midfield minutes. 

ANB, melk, Lewis etc can all take more midfield time to cover Tyson. Play jones inside all game. 

Gus in next week if he is in the best for casey

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Nah, mate.

If Gawn was injured Pedersen would be in straight away and do a good job as an undersized follower.  But as a dedicated key forward he's no good and won't be recalled if Tom McDonald or Weideman are available.

The club has handled Weideman perfectly and he'll repay the favour when they deem him ready.

Agreed. I think we need to give Pedo credit where it’s due. He was very good for us last year in very bad injury circumstances where we lost not 1 but 2 rucks. He is much better around the ground than as a stay at home forward where he is not tall enough or agile enough to really hurt you. He is pretty good overhead. 

With Gawn absolutely dominating, there is simply no need for Pedo, and while TMac is injured I would like Weids to be given a run of 3-4 games and see where he’s at. It’ll give us another target that will allow Hogan to play more midfield minutes, and it will give him a taste of AFL level again. Plus he can pinch hit in the ruck, a much better option than Harmes! 

18 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

I would have said Hannan.

Fritsch and Hannan are both goal kickers with freakish talents. It comes down to defensive pressure as to who plays.

Disagree. Hannan's pressure and impact is inconsistent.I would prefer they stick with Fritsch if that was the case. I think if the change occurs it will be to bring in the extra tall. Its nice to have options.