VFL Practice Match - Casey Demons v Port Melbourne

[brendan 3,434]

13 hours ago, BigFez said:

Mate, sorry for the generalisation, but opposition supporters are a pack of dogs, that's why I'm stoked to have chosen the Demons, where our supporters are all class, cheese boards and Range Rovers.  There almost needs to be a thread on 'things opposition supporters have done to p!ss me off'.  I'm sure we'd all have a story or two like this, perhaps not one involving a family member though.

Wishing Dec a speedy recovery.

Can’t say I have ever had a run in with opposition supporters, Melbourne supporters on the other hand I have been told to be quiet and to sit down on a number of occasions in all parts of the members section, I have given up on seats now and just go to the standing room where I can actually cheer my team without getting told off 

[Frustrated Demon 244]

On 11/03/2018 at 4:04 PM, Mach5 said:

Headline:

Young tall KPF isn't a star in his 3rd year after no preseason.

 

Not a 100% what I was saying. I just don’t think he is upto it at this present time. I just think we need to start seeing more from him at Casey. I’m not expecting him to be dominating seniors.

[BigFez 1,440]

19 hours ago, brendan said:

Can’t say I have ever had a run in with opposition supporters, Melbourne supporters on the other hand I have been told to be quiet and to sit down on a number of occasions in all parts of the members section, I have given up on seats now and just go to the standing room where I can actually cheer my team without getting told off 

Never had a serious run in but goodness me I've heard some nonsense from oppo supports in my time.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

On 10/03/2018 at 9:34 PM, bing181 said:

Trouble is, he’s consistently good at this level, but has consistently failed to have a real impact in the ones. 

Make or break year for sure.

[binman 42,499]

On 3/10/2018 at 1:35 PM, Satyriconhome said:

Steady WJ injured too strong a word, if they get an itch these days it's rehab, would only say McKenna, AVB and to an extent Viney

You seem to have got this one wrong Saty. To your (short) list it would appear you can add TMac, Lewis, Harmes and Neal Bullen with Omac not clear

[Deemania since 56 6,605]

On 11/03/2018 at 10:48 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

Wait for the Pies to pounce !

He would suit Collingwood. 

[Satyriconhome 10,675]

4 hours ago, binman said:

You seem to have got this one wrong Saty. To your (short) list it would appear you can add TMac, Lewis, Harmes and Neal Bullen with Omac not clear

Nah, slight rehabbing for everybody except AVB and McKenna

Omac got a knee in the back, he's cool

[BAMF 4,286]

22 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Make or break year for sure.

Do you really think this?

He is contracted till the end of 2019. Do you think the footy department will delist him if he doesnt 'make' it this year? 

I don't. I think he will see out his contract. 

[Mach5 4,767]

On 3/12/2018 at 6:45 PM, Frustrated Demon said:

Not a 100% what I was saying. I just don’t think he is upto it at this present time. I just think we need to start seeing more from him at Casey. I’m not expecting him to be dominating seniors.

Yes, it was unfortunately.

[leave it to deever 17,511]

18 hours ago, BAMF said:

Do you really think this?

He is contracted till the end of 2019. Do you think the footy department will delist him if he doesnt 'make' it this year? 

I don't. I think he will see out his contract. 

Not really a question of being delisted. More for me as a paid up supporter thinking that if he doesn't improve this year than he may as well move on.

Hes been ok but I think we need much more from him and ok cant be tolerated anymore if we are serious about winning a flag.

[Frustrated Demon 244]

11 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Yes, it was unfortunately.

Ok [censored] whatever makes you feel good.

[poita 3,889]

Re: Sam Weideman, I've said it before, but it has nothing to do with the number of marks, kicks and goals he has, at any level, at this stage of his career. 

It has everything to do with his lack of intensity, physical presence and hunger for the contest. That is something you can't teach, and it is the reason that I doubt he will make it as an AFL footballer.

I'm sure Sam will see out his contract, and will probably even get a fifth year if he shows signs of improvement, but there is little doubt that we will be having the same conversation in 2020. 

[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

17 minutes ago, poita said:

Re: Sam Weideman, I've said it before, but it has nothing to do with the number of marks, kicks and goals he has, at any level, at this stage of his career. 

It has everything to do with his lack of intensity, physical presence and hunger for the contest. That is something you can't teach, and it is the reason that I doubt he will make it as an AFL footballer.

I'm sure Sam will see out his contract, and will probably even get a fifth year if he shows signs of improvement, but there is little doubt that we will be having the same conversation in 2020. 

The funny thing after the Adelaide game last year (the one where we went there not the Darwin one), the people talking up Weid's chances were all about his intensity, pressure and hunger during that game, while the detractors talked down his score board impact and contested marking. 

I think it's always incredibly hard to judge a young tall on their impact at the lower level, from my observation at the lower level you don't have many key defenders that do much more than spoil - as opposed to AFL level where they also have to attack/zone. This means often if conditions are poor for marking (rain/wind etc.) they don't have the chance to show off there pressure acts, probably why a lot of them get a run in the ruck at times.

[Diamond_Jim 12,511]

41 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

The funny thing after the Adelaide game last year (the one where we went there not the Darwin one), the people talking up Weid's chances were all about his intensity, pressure and hunger during that game, while the detractors talked down his score board impact and contested marking. 

I think it's always incredibly hard to judge a young tall on their impact at the lower level, from my observation at the lower level you don't have many key defenders that do much more than spoil - as opposed to AFL level where they also have to attack/zone. This means often if conditions are poor for marking (rain/wind etc.) they don't have the chance to show off there pressure acts, probably why a lot of them get a run in the ruck at times.

Good post.

From my observations of his games for Casey last year he was too easily pushed under the ball and he also failed to lead in a meaningful way.

This year will be important for him.

Interesting experiment with Darcy Moore moving to the backline.

Perhaps Weid could benefit from a few games down the back.

[Deemania since 56 6,605]

2 hours ago, poita said:

Re: Sam Weideman, I've said it before, but it has nothing to do with the number of marks, kicks and goals he has, at any level, at this stage of his career. 

It has everything to do with his lack of intensity, physical presence and hunger for the contest. That is something you can't teach, and it is the reason that I doubt he will make it as an AFL footballer.

I'm sure Sam will see out his contract, and will probably even get a fifth year if he shows signs of improvement, but there is little doubt that we will be having the same conversation in 2020. 

Sadly, it is probably correct. He does need to show intensity at every stage of a game in order to get those marks, handballs, kicks, goals, forward pressure opportunities and sheer MFC guts outcomes. Then, he would be valuable.

[Deemania since 56 6,605]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Good post.

From my observations of his games for Casey last year he was too easily pushed under the ball and he also failed to lead in a meaningful way.

This year will be important for him.

Interesting experiment with Darcy Moore moving to the backline.

Perhaps Weid could benefit from a few games down the back.

Darcy Moore might be a real prospect. What is his form?