The pre-game warmup is dead

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,533]

8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

This is depressing reading

Seriously AFLX was incredibly boring

So, you were the one who watched it. I knew there was someone.

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

7 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Seriously AFLX was incredibly boring

What the ....?

Oh, you must be one of those "sports fans". Of course.

Seriously, man, didn't you see the ratio of ad revenue to broadcast time, in comparison to the older, duller, LONGER version of the er, sport.

It's faster, sharper, more contemporary. The revenue stream, I mean. The game, well ... who really cares about that? The kiddies, I guess.

And then we can play double headers, with explosions and strippers ... oh my god. What planet are you on?

(Oh that's right, we already established that you're one of those "sports" "enthusiasts". Right.)

[Diamond_Jim 12,017]

So good was the AFLX that we are all off to Hong Kong for a jolly good time at seasons end ...

Better book those airfares soon.

Are you staying Kowlooon side (my favourite ) or on the island?

[Sir Why You Little 34,920]

18 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

What the ....?

Oh, you must be one of those "sports fans". Of course.

Seriously, man, didn't you see the ratio of ad revenue to broadcast time, in comparison to the older, duller, LONGER version of the er, sport.

It's faster, sharper, more contemporary. The revenue stream, I mean. The game, well ... who really cares about that? The kiddies, I guess.

And then we can play double headers, with explosions and strippers ... oh my god. What planet are you on?

(Oh that's right, we already established that you're one of those "sports" "enthusiasts". Right.)

“Easy Dill”

”Drink your Tea and settle down....”

[DaveyDee 421]

Exciting times ahead many positives changes and no doubt a few blunders - but such is life. 

AFL - game in great shape

AFLW - Even after one year you can see the massive leap forward the game has taken

AFLX - As I said in my very first comment on AFLX - game needs some tinkering but at last we have a product that is exportable/marketable overseas now let’s get some of the elite players more involved. 

The “conservatives” in AFL football are going to struggle but you can’t please all of the people all of the time

[daisycutter 28,684]

is afl is good

 

[Ethan Tremblay 28,535]

Didn’t want to start a new thread for this so I thought I’d post it here. I wonder if it happens if the games will be played as a curtain raiser and may explain the scrapping of the pre-game warm up? 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-considering-bringing-back-a-leaguewide-reserves-competition-for-2019-report/news-story/de73728471b92f1ebb7fce49de8f3ca5?nk=cd7d95f5b5d3f09f51f854f96ca9964f-1521179387

[Bitter but optimistic 21,556]

The AFL rules will not impact on my customary warm up of a gutful.

[Diamond_Jim 12,017]

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Didn’t want to start a new thread for this so I thought I’d post it here. I wonder if it happens if the games will be played as a curtain raiser and may explain the scrapping of the pre-game warm up? 

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-considering-bringing-back-a-leaguewide-reserves-competition-for-2019-report/news-story/de73728471b92f1ebb7fce49de8f3ca5?nk=cd7d95f5b5d3f09f51f854f96ca9964f-1521179387

big news if right and a possible blow to Casey.

Some practical difficulties like list expansion (if any) and the cost of flying reserve teams around the country but I like it.

[Cassiew 1,872]

Changing songs. Getting rid of stuff like this. Sick of them screwing over fans without asking for our input

[titan_uranus 22,752]

The Fox Footy article mentions, in addition to curtain raisers, "fan activation initiatives" as a reason why the pre-game warm up is gone.

"Fan activation initiatives". Classic AFL. More, what, music? Sponsor events? Do we need more "Where in the Warehouse" or "Dance Cam" which no one likes?

[Deemania since 56 6,237]

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

The Fox Footy article mentions, in addition to curtain raisers, "fan activation initiatives" as a reason why the pre-game warm up is gone.

"Fan activation initiatives". Classic AFL. More, what, music? Sponsor events? Do we need more "Where in the Warehouse" or "Dance Cam" which no one likes?

We need an old-fashioned Reserves game prior to a match, then the team warm-up on the ground, then the seniors match, every week. As AFL prices rise, that would be moving towards better value for money. I would even donate my pie 'n sauce money to this cause and the 'home' team as these nourishment treats are too expensive to consider anymore. Bring back 'People Power', not dictatorial exploitation. It is our game, not the AFL's. 

[daisycutter 28,684]

1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

The Fox Footy article mentions, in addition to curtain raisers, "fan activation initiatives" as a reason why the pre-game warm up is gone.

"Fan activation initiatives". Classic AFL. More, what, music? Sponsor events? Do we need more "Where in the Warehouse" or "Dance Cam" which no one likes?

"Fan activation initiatives" - lol - is this pc talk for "entertainment"

footy is the only entertainment i go to the ground for - the rest is generally an annoyance and amateurish like "reality" tv

[Diamond_Jim 12,017]

"fan activation activities" ....... wow ... wait while I unpack that !!

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,533]

54 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

"fan activation activities" ....... wow ... wait while I unpack that !!

Once you've done that, you can then work on "fan activation initiatives". I'm sure they're completely different things.

[daisycutter 28,684]

5 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Once you've done that, you can then work on "fan activation initiatives". I'm sure they're completely different things.

do you think that might be like afl hazing?

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,533]

Having thought about this a bit more seriously, is it possible that this is all about re-introducing curtain raisers? It may be that various other bodies have to be consulted, including the VFL and other State leagues, the AFLW, ground managers, public transport operators, police, the clubs, concessions, etc and until each has been properly consulted and any issues of concern addressed, the AFL is not is a position to make such an announcement. If (and I accept it's a big if) that's the reason for describing it in indecipherable, inane language, then I can understand it.

But if it's going to be music acts and marching bands, nah. 

[Demons1858 1,663]

Happy for this to be dropped. Its a bit of an anti climax when players run onto the G to start the match for the 2nd time.

[Pates 9,537]

Certainly my understanding of this change was for the possibility of curtain raisers to come back. But when they aren't happening I don't see any reason to prevent the players from accessing the field until say 20-30min before the bounce, I always liked the warm ups because (particularly early in the year) it gave you a chance to observe and identify some of the new boys.

If this was done to bring in curtain raisers than it's a tick for me. If it's tinkering for the sake of tinkering (and "fan engagement") than it sounds pointless.

[Pates 9,537]

On 3/4/2018 at 10:26 PM, sue said:

Anyone suggest a reason for this:

. The away club must enter three minutes earlier than the home team.

Will there be fines for disobeying?  Working out which team is to blame would be interesting.

I'd imagine this was a strong request from the broadcasters so that their production could flow on a tighter schedule.

[Demon Dynasty 15,960]

On 5 March 2018 at 7:27 AM, Demonland said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/exclusive-the-afl-will-end-pregame-warmups-as-part-of-sweeping-set-of-2018-rule-changes/news-story/71132639d8d87162bc2952b4a74398d2

Clubs will no longer be able to warm-up as a team on the ground other than briefly before the first bounce.

Clubs generally completed a 15-minute warm-up on the field 25 to 40 minutes out from the first bounce, went back into the rooms and then re-entered the arena for a final kick before the match commenced.

Now they will need to enter the arena 11 minutes before the start of the game. The away club must enter three minutes earlier than the home team.

Among other changes:

— Clubs will now be required to list four emergency players, up from three. Part of the reason for this change is to accommodate the possibility of a ruckman getting injured in the warm-up. The position is more specialised than ever and four emergencies allows coaches more flexibility and insurance.

— Four emergencies will essentially allow clubs to have a reserve player for each of the four positions on the ground and should completely eliminate the possibility of a player outside the selected squad parachuting into the starting team at the last minute.

Players must cease kicking for goal in warm-ups five minutes before the first bounce, as opposed to three minutes. Given home teams will enter the arena 11 minutes before play begins, that leaves just six minutes for forwards to practise goalkicking and get an accurate gauge on conditions.

— Approval may be sought for players listed on the long-term injury list to be seated on the club interchange bench during matches, providing the player is listed on the official team sheet as one of the 26 match officials.

— The pre-match warning siren, which ran three minutes before the first bounce, has been removed. It has been replaced by the following sequence:

1. Umpires enter the arena (1 siren)

2. 5 minutes prior to match start (1 siren)

3. 2 minutes prior to match start (2 sirens)

4. 1 minute prior to match start (1 siren)

So when I'm standing in a que for a beer or some chips and I hear one siren, the umpires might be walking on to the ground, there could be 5 minutes to go before the first boince or I could miss the start of the match.  Interesting