Are we ready? Rory Sloane

[Its Time for Another 4,293]

6 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Gaff is already too old for our profile.  2 years ago he may have fitted, but regardless the Eagles will throw plenty enough to keep him.

The big money for Sloane will come from Sydney, with $900k spare from Tippets retirement. North already had enough to offer Dusty and Kelly bucket loads (but who would want to go there?). Collingwood are all wind....Pendelbury is already the highest paid AFL player, and Treloar will be earning a motzza by now.  They won’t have enough left for a player like Lynch.

 

3 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

I think Tippet was signed until the end of 2020 which makes it more interesting.

According to Tom Harley in his interview on SEN Tippett's injury wasn't career ending and it was his decision to retire early so his payout will not be included in the salary cap after this year. 

Tippett had a trigger clause in his contract for big bucks for a year or two extension but apparently he was very reasonable about it and agreed to take much less each year but extend the contract for longer to the end of 2020. As he has decided to retire early and end the contract apparently he agreed to a very fair payout. I think you'll find the salary cap space that opens up isn't as big as you think. It will still really help them though. Especially as next year is the last really big bucks year on Buddy's contract. It tapers off by about 50% from 2020 onwards. 

I get the feeling from what Sloane has said that if he goes it will be back home to Vic. So assuming the money is the same that's where he'll end up. Don't know where. 

Edited January 24, 2018 by It's Time

[daisycutter 29,747]

3 minutes ago, It's Time said:

 

According to Tom Harley in his interview on SEN Tippett's injury wasn't career ending and it was his decision to retire early so his payout will not be included in the salary cap after this year. 

Tippett had a trigger clause in his contract for big bucks for a year or two extension but apparently he was very reasonable about it and agreed to take much less each year but extend the contract for longer to the end of 2020. As he has decided to retire early and end the contract apparently he agreed to a very fair payout. I think you'll find the salary cap space that opens up isn't as big as you think. It will still really help them though. Especially as next year is the last really big bucks year on Buddy's contract. It tapers off by about 50% from 2020 onwards. 

i suppose, it, that we should also factor in that some (many?) swans have been underpaid in recent years (due to buddy, tippet) and might rightly expect (demand) some increased compensation?

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41 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

i suppose, it, that we should also factor in that some (many?) swans have been underpaid in recent years (due to buddy, tippet) and might rightly expect (demand) some increased compensation?

Good point. Although they still have a predominantly very young list so other than Buddy would have some room. They could back end a contract because 2019 is the last big money year for Buddy. 

[george_on_the_outer 7,721]

The other thing which will come into play is the increase in the salary cap for everyone of around $2M.  It was effective from June 2017, but contracts would have already been signed for the 2017 year, so the can of worms opens in 2018:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-20/players-get-20-per-cent-pay-rise-in-new-cba

If you have a quality young list you will be able to pay them to stay with the extra money.  If you don't....then you go shopping. 

 

 

[praha 11,240]

9 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

They’ve already stated he could earn as much as 500k. That was late last season.

You'd need to offer more than that to keep a home sick Victorian on the GC. From what I've heard, the Vics especially that have played up there have struggled from a livelihood point of view. Regardless tho the GC is a shithole.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,997]

Sloane looks a little too clean cut and wholesome to play with our midfield. 

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2 hours ago, praha said:

You'd need to offer more than that to keep a home sick Victorian on the GC. From what I've heard, the Vics especially that have played up there have struggled from a livelihood point of view. Regardless tho the GC is a shithole.

Depends on the individual. He could potentially get 1.2 from the Suns before the 500 from the AFL. No Victorian club could/would match that.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Hes Bernies mate, go and get him Bernie!

 

[jumbo returns 6,741]

11 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

He’s contracted for 2 more Jumbo. 

But if we could get Lynch.

Mebbe BA, but the club will try and lock him in for longer and the dance may start earlier than expected

I'm not sold on Lynch...not sure why

[Dr. Gonzo 24,333]

22 hours ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Gaff is already too old for our profile.  2 years ago he may have fitted, but regardless the Eagles will throw plenty enough to keep him.

The big money for Sloane will come from Sydney, with $900k spare from Tippets retirement. North already had enough to offer Dusty and Kelly bucket loads (but who would want to go there?). Collingwood are all wind....Pendelbury is already the highest paid AFL player, and Treloar will be earning a motzza by now.  They won’t have enough left for a player like Lynch.

I'm sure he'll be happy to take up Travis Clokes old role presenting the sport once a month on Channel 9 news

[Dr. Gonzo 24,333]

13 hours ago, praha said:

You'd need to offer more than that to keep a home sick Victorian on the GC. From what I've heard, the Vics especially that have played up there have struggled from a livelihood point of view. Regardless tho the GC is a shithole.

500k would be in addition to his salary paid by the AFL as an "ambassador"

[Gorgoroth 13,030]

I want Sloane to leave so I can watch Tex's head explode!

[DubDee 26,135]

Sloane is a very good player, but not a star thats worthy of big bucks IMO.  he went missing a fair bit last season when tagged

don't get me wrong, a very good player and leader

[Tony Tea 2,809]

Let's hold our fire until Josh Kelly is ready to come home in 2 years.

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12 hours ago, Tony Tea said:

Let's hold our fire until Josh Kelly is ready to come home in 2 years.

Skulleeighy might be ready then too !

[Moonshadow 17,677]

On 24/01/2018 at 12:54 AM, Ethan Tremblay said:

I wonder how much money the AFL will throw at him to stay at the Gold Coast. Wasn’t he going to be payed outside the salary cap as an ‘Ambassador’ if he were to stay at the Suns post 2018?

Either way he will earn a large packet and should easily set him up for life. 

[daisycutter 29,747]

this 'ambassador' rubbish is just plain bribery and corruption

more afl policy on the run.  surely they can come up with better solutions to make their private franchises more competitive

[sue 9,146]

Just now, daisycutter said:

this 'ambassador' rubbish is just plain bribery and corruption

more afl policy on the run.  surely they can come up with better solutions to make their private franchises more competitive

They could try honesty and just say we're funding this more, bending our usual rules etc  because ..... <whatever>.  The reason given may just happen to be reasonable, or at least discussable.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Imagine the meltdown the crows would have if we got lever last year and Sloane this year hahahaha hahahah 

[rjay 25,105]

I think we are past going for the big fish...

We have our own homegrown to look after now. Clubs will be knocking on Oliver's door, Petracca and others, lets keep this list together as long as it takes to get the elusive flag.

To me a player like Sloane would end up around our 3rd or 4th mid behind Oliver & Patracca and on par with Viney but we would be paying him number 1 mid money. Not a wise spend...

Look at needs and spend wisely...Hibberd is an example. Although not a free agent he fitted a real need to have quality run and disposal from defence.

Gaff maybe the one to look at but that depends on money and how some of our younger players come on.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 11,234]

16 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think we are past going for the big fish...

We have our own homegrown to look after now. Clubs will be knocking on Oliver's door, Petracca and others, lets keep this list together as long as it takes to get the elusive flag.

To me a player like Sloane would end up around our 3rd or 4th mid behind Oliver & Patracca and on par with Viney but we would be paying him number 1 mid money. Not a wise spend...

Look at needs and spend wisely...Hibberd is an example. Although not a free agent he fitted a real need to have quality run and disposal from defence.

Gaff maybe the one to look at but that depends on money and how some of our younger players come on.

Could not agree more. Our absolute priority needs to be locking Petracca away on a long term deal. Sloane is a good mid who can't play a tag. You don't pay overs for that type and you will need to to get him. 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,333]

2 hours ago, big_red_fire_engine said:

Could not agree more. Our absolute priority needs to be locking Petracca away on a long term deal. Sloane is a good mid who can't play a tag. You don't pay overs for that type and you will need to to get him. 

Devil's advocate- he wouldn't need to play a tag in our midfield so would get more space 

[Demons11 7,061]

On 25/01/2018 at 12:49 PM, DubDee said:

Sloane is a very good player, but not a star thats worthy of big bucks IMO.  he went missing a fair bit last season when tagged

don't get me wrong, a very good player and leader

The bloke is a superstar!

[Gorgoroth 13,030]

10 hours ago, Demons11 said:

The bloke is a superstar!

Who can’t handle a tag. So yeah, very very good player. If he starts beating tags then I’d agree with superstar. Can’t beat a tag. Not a superstar.