Maroochydore training camp

[Cards13 9,117]

14 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:

It appears the club does read Demonland. They'll be having an open training session at Casey on the 17th Feb. A Saturday!!!

The QLD fans will be chuffed with that news. 

[RalphiusMaximus 6,088]

26 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:

It appears the club does read Demonland. They'll be having an open training session at Casey on the 17th Feb. A Saturday!!!

I'm working that day 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,305]

8 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

With Tommy Mc's aerobic capacity, don't you think it would be a waste just having him lead from the goal square like an old fashioned full fwd, it is 2018 after all

You will find Hogan and Tommy Mc rotating, which hopefully will be a mare to defend

They will rotate but I would except TMac more often stay at home v Hogan (say 70/30 split). TMac has great aerobic capacity but is also far better at leading out of the square towards the kicker and is a deadlier and longer kick for goal (assuming his 2017 wasn't a fluke).

[Moonshadow 17,677]

4 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Is that a euphemism?

Haha, that pretty good, for you. 

[Roger Mellie 4,103]

Lifted from BF with a big thank you to Captain Jack:

 

As noted earlier conditions were awful this morning. It’s hardly rained in months in some parts of QLD yet there we were in weather ranging from light drizzle to heavy rain.

As such skills and structures were not great/hard to make out.

The first part that I saw was a full-ground drill that was mostly about ball movement and started from loose balls in various parts of the ground. The players had to run hard and cover plenty of territory as a new ball would be released a long way from the previous contest.

Towards the end the players split into four groups based on size/role - talls, smalls, midfielders, wingers/flankers - to do various contested drills and one-on-one or two-on-two scenarios.

I missed the first hour of the session (likely a lot of warming up anyway) but here are my thoughts organized by player:

Rehab/touch group included Harmes, Viney, J Smith, Garlett, Johnstone, Weideman (who looks a good size)
Hunt watched on - no obvious issues but he was dressed for training and didn’t take any part at all.
Vandenberg also watching - didn’t look like he was training at all.

Hogan good hands overhead in wet was a highlight of the session. Others battled with the heavy ball. Good 1/1 win v Lever in the only contest I saw between the two. Ferocious in tackling drill v Pedo/Gawn - looks fit and hungry.

In the full-ground stuff Hogan and McDonald were lined up at opposite ends the whole time, which I found odd. Would have thought they need to get some chemistry together. Then again it was good weather for ducks, not key forwards, so not a big deal.

Jetta seemed to be matching up on bigger opponents including Hogan - I think an interview with him mentioned this as a focus (good move given how many times he gets hung out to dry by his teammates).

Lever vocal from boundary during rests - will be in the leadership group surely. Didn’t quite do the full session - watched on in the second half with lower back iced. Maybe just copped a knock there.

Gawn taped up right thigh - cork? Looks huge otherwise. I am concerned that wth Spencer gone he doesn’t have another mature ruckman to test himself against but he looks in amazing condition as has been reported. As for King and Filipovic, both look to have filled out a bit but the latter in particular is very raw still. Trouble if Gawn goes down.

Petracca clearly trained as a midfielder today and was encouraged to use his better fitness to work on his two-way running. Not something he’d be too used to, I imagine, as a highly talented junior. Other than that his clean hands with the wet ball were a highlight. Gee I’m excited about what he can bring this year.

Tyson showed good skills and moved freely.

Melksham played deep forward mostly. Used his kicking skills to good effect going inside 50. Given that Garlett was running laps they might be prepping the Snake for a deeper role early in the season along with Bugg, who did the whole main group session.

An amusing quote from Goodwin: “mids standing around doing **** all, get forward to help Hoges!”

Our new Cult Hero “Sideshow Bob” Baker looks a likely sort - good size, good confidence in tight situations - still learning the team ‘rule’s though and may have got carried away once or twice when he should have handballed out of trouble.

In general goal kicking was no good in the wet but oh well.

Wagner’s kicking skills still a worry - looks risky and flukey. I will continue to not really rate him as a player for now.

Hibberd bombed a few long torps from kickouts.

Balic looks ok in contests - bit of size about him. Hard to see where he would get a game round 1, behind a number of similar wing/HFF types but is somewhat AFL-ready.

Oscar looks bigger but still was matched up against Keilty/Filipovic in tackling - would like to see him against the big dogs. Given Frost’s size and reportedly better positioning skills as a defender I would hope he can take the biggest forward because Oscar is still building up his body.

Spargo slight and struggling with fitness by the end - expected. Battled manfully in the tackling despite giving up plenty of size even to the likes of ANB. Don’t think we will see much of him this year.

Fritsch is also very very slight - bordering on Frail Cale Morton size. I think he’d need to take Hannan’s spot, with the latter offering plenty more physicality and grunt at this stage.

Brayshaw a slight concern - did most of the work but was not in with the main mids. In the tackling/contested work he was with the second-string group of flankers and young kids. Might be kept out of the real contested stuff for a while as he builds confidence.

Jones + Vince were out there as playing coaches at times - as veterans they would need a lower volume of training. They mostly skipped the physical/tackling aspects which is fair enough. Earlier Vince and Lewis both trained in the back line as we know - but I struggle to see a spot for both of them in the same team.

Stretch, Salem + JKH training with Tyson, Oliver, Petracca - those six along with Jones and Viney (and Maynard) would make up the bulk of our midfield rotations you’d think.

Please ask for clarification if I was rambling incoherently above.

[Roger Mellie 4,103]

And another courtesy of 'The Count':

Checked out a bit of the rehab group ...
- Viney was very clean when they had the footys out.
- Joel Smith has put on a really good amount of size
- Harmes started there, then moved over to the main oval and ran a few laps before joining in with the main group towards the end. He's really matured in his body shape I think. 
- Jeffy and Johnstone also moved to the main oval and ran a few laps together, and Weid ran a few of his own as well, has put on a little bit of size, but still has a ways to go
Viney and J.Smith were running some sprints and then some 400's together, Smith was smashing him, tho I believe is a fair way ahead in terms of running.
- vandenBerg did his own session up at the rooms under cover, did a fair bit of boxing and battle rope stuff, but its very clear that he's been off leg for some time, huge upper body, tiny pegs.

As for the main group, as Jack said, the conditions meant that you can take absolutely nothing away from a skill perspective, but it at least looked like they were training to them, in the full ground drills, the long kicks down the line were kicked to space to the advantage of the man, rather than trying to hit a target. 
- Agree on Hogan, one of the better performers in the conditions, and looked hungry. One of the drills in the positional groups, Hogan had to tackle TMac while Pedo tried to shepherd him, and TMac avoid being tackled by him. Pedo was doing a good job, and it got pretty heated between the two for a second, and Hoges just concentrated on getting rid of Pedo, which he did, before getting back to TMac and tackling him to ground. 
- Trac is still sublime to watch, even in the rain. Was with the mids all session, and was covering the ground well. 
- I was impressed with Tyson, and I'm a critic. Was moving really well, noticeably better than last season.
- Nobody told Oliver it was wet ... ridiculous what he can do. He walked past me afterwards as well, deceivingly tall. 
- Hibberd kicked in from a behind during some of the heaviest rain, and it would have gone 60+
- Fritsch took a few nice grab, needs to smash the hamburgers tho 
- Get on board the Ginga Ninja, I've seen plenty of him in full flight in the NEAFL, and he looked like he was fitting in really well.

[FireInTheBennelly 4,099]

17 minutes ago, Roger Mellie said:

Lifted from BF with a big thank you to Captain Jack:

 

As noted earlier conditions were awful this morning. It’s hardly rained in months in some parts of QLD yet there we were in weather ranging from light drizzle to heavy rain.

As such skills and structures were not great/hard to make out.

The first part that I saw was a full-ground drill that was mostly about ball movement and started from loose balls in various parts of the ground. The players had to run hard and cover plenty of territory as a new ball would be released a long way from the previous contest.

Towards the end the players split into four groups based on size/role - talls, smalls, midfielders, wingers/flankers - to do various contested drills and one-on-one or two-on-two scenarios.

I missed the first hour of the session (likely a lot of warming up anyway) but here are my thoughts organized by player:

Rehab/touch group included Harmes, Viney, J Smith, Garlett, Johnstone, Weideman (who looks a good size)
Hunt watched on - no obvious issues but he was dressed for training and didn’t take any part at all.
Vandenberg also watching - didn’t look like he was training at all.

Hogan good hands overhead in wet was a highlight of the session. Others battled with the heavy ball. Good 1/1 win v Lever in the only contest I saw between the two. Ferocious in tackling drill v Pedo/Gawn - looks fit and hungry.

In the full-ground stuff Hogan and McDonald were lined up at opposite ends the whole time, which I found odd. Would have thought they need to get some chemistry together. Then again it was good weather for ducks, not key forwards, so not a big deal.

Jetta seemed to be matching up on bigger opponents including Hogan - I think an interview with him mentioned this as a focus (good move given how many times he gets hung out to dry by his teammates).

Lever vocal from boundary during rests - will be in the leadership group surely. Didn’t quite do the full session - watched on in the second half with lower back iced. Maybe just copped a knock there.

Gawn taped up right thigh - cork? Looks huge otherwise. I am concerned that wth Spencer gone he doesn’t have another mature ruckman to test himself against but he looks in amazing condition as has been reported. As for King and Filipovic, both look to have filled out a bit but the latter in particular is very raw still. Trouble if Gawn goes down.

Petracca clearly trained as a midfielder today and was encouraged to use his better fitness to work on his two-way running. Not something he’d be too used to, I imagine, as a highly talented junior. Other than that his clean hands with the wet ball were a highlight. Gee I’m excited about what he can bring this year.

Tyson showed good skills and moved freely.

Melksham played deep forward mostly. Used his kicking skills to good effect going inside 50. Given that Garlett was running laps they might be prepping the Snake for a deeper role early in the season along with Bugg, who did the whole main group session.

An amusing quote from Goodwin: “mids standing around doing **** all, get forward to help Hoges!”

Our new Cult Hero “Sideshow Bob” Baker looks a likely sort - good size, good confidence in tight situations - still learning the team ‘rule’s though and may have got carried away once or twice when he should have handballed out of trouble.

In general goal kicking was no good in the wet but oh well.

Wagner’s kicking skills still a worry - looks risky and flukey. I will continue to not really rate him as a player for now.

Hibberd bombed a few long torps from kickouts.

Balic looks ok in contests - bit of size about him. Hard to see where he would get a game round 1, behind a number of similar wing/HFF types but is somewhat AFL-ready.

Oscar looks bigger but still was matched up against Keilty/Filipovic in tackling - would like to see him against the big dogs. Given Frost’s size and reportedly better positioning skills as a defender I would hope he can take the biggest forward because Oscar is still building up his body.

Spargo slight and struggling with fitness by the end - expected. Battled manfully in the tackling despite giving up plenty of size even to the likes of ANB. Don’t think we will see much of him this year.

Fritsch is also very very slight - bordering on Frail Cale Morton size. I think he’d need to take Hannan’s spot, with the latter offering plenty more physicality and grunt at this stage.

Brayshaw a slight concern - did most of the work but was not in with the main mids. In the tackling/contested work he was with the second-string group of flankers and young kids. Might be kept out of the real contested stuff for a while as he builds confidence.

Jones + Vince were out there as playing coaches at times - as veterans they would need a lower volume of training. They mostly skipped the physical/tackling aspects which is fair enough. Earlier Vince and Lewis both trained in the back line as we know - but I struggle to see a spot for both of them in the same team.

Stretch, Salem + JKH training with Tyson, Oliver, Petracca - those six along with Jones and Viney (and Maynard) would make up the bulk of our midfield rotations you’d think.

Please ask for clarification if I was rambling incoherently above.

I hope Pig isn't looking for a trade to Collingwood for 2019....

[spirit of norm smith 16,589]

My mate Deano headed up. Said it was low key. Weather dreary. Moved on after half an hour. Reckons Hogan is the key to 2018 and he looks in good shape.  

[martin 727]

Is training back at Gosch's tomorrow  morning? Time?

[dworship 3,342]

Nope, they still have one more big session up North so Wed I believe but not sure if at Gosch's

[jnrmac 20,189]

On 2/1/2018 at 4:14 PM, binman said:

Particularly if the camera has a confirmation bias lens attached......

Nah , Just a normal lens. 

[tappysquads 618]

Any news on Dean Kent?

last year was terrible, and he seems to be falling away in relevance. 2 years ago I thought he was set to become a quality player. He's got the weapons. I understand the shoulder slowed him down, but would love to be reading that he is super fit and firing pre season.

[ding 5,126]

If nobody reports on Mondays training, did it actually happen?

#philosophydeestyle

 

[Vagg 2,439]

24 minutes ago, ding said:

If nobody reports on Mondays training, did it actually happen?

#philosophydeestyle

 

I understand the surf was really pumping, so maybe the players voted to go to the beach instead...

[Docs Demons 1,792]

Old Bergo must have gone missing as no reports since last Fridays session . I assume he went back to Melbourne for Women's game. They certainly do not want to keep supporters up to date. Hope a few attend tomorrows training and can report as nothing coming from club.

[Vagg 2,439]

6 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

 Hope a few attend tomorrows training and can report as nothing coming from club.

Agreed!  It's like the entire Club just fell off the face of the earth!  (Well, the men's team, anyway!)

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

43 minutes ago, Docs Demons said:

Old Bergo must have gone missing as no reports since last Fridays session . I assume he went back to Melbourne for Women's game. They certainly do not want to keep supporters up to date. Hope a few attend tomorrows training and can report as nothing coming from club.

Found this....

http://m.melbournefc.com.au/video/2018-02-06/preseason-camp-masterchef

And this.....

http://m.melbournefc.com.au/video/2018-02-04/inside-melbourne-nibblers-vlog

Edited February 6, 2018 by Demon77

[Wiseblood 24,637]

I'm happy the Maroochydore camp is done as it's always a sign that the real stuff is just around the corner.  And thank goodness for that.

[dazzledavey36 55,361]

The daily updates on the camo just went to [censored].. No pics or reports on the main session.

Again, our website media team still proves we're one of the worst in the league.

[binman 43,817]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The daily updates on the camo just went to [censored].. No pics or reports on the main session.

Again, our website media team still proves we're one of the worst in the league.

Could not agree more. In this day and safe it is simply ridiculous to have such a poxy website. Made worse by the lack of any half decent content. Our you tube channel is even worse.

I know pj has focused on the FD but he has dropped the ball - or more accurately never picked it up - when it comes to the increasingly critical digital platform and video content. Bad business and a lost opportunity to engage with new young fans.  Kids these days watch online video content not tv. 

[PaulRB 6,411]

Im not fussed that the club isn't wasting limited resources pandering to the unending needs of the digital fan base during pre-season. Keep the funds and attention focused on footy, and improving the team, and promoting those teams we have playing and winning (i.e. the Womens Team).

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

13 minutes ago, PaulRB said:

Im not fussed that the club isn't wasting limited resources pandering to the unending needs of the digital fan base during pre-season. Keep the funds and attention focused on footy, and improving the team, and promoting those teams we have playing and winning (i.e. the Womens Team).

Posting photos and videos on social media doesn't cost anything (besides the time of staff you are already paying) and it is quick and easy to do.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,510]

13 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The daily updates on the camo just went to [censored].. No pics or reports on the main session.

Again, our website media team still proves we're one of the worst in the league.

It is a very strange turn around from the last few years, even as far back as the Neeld-era trips to Northern Territory.

In previous years we've had daily photo galleries an accompanying article and Burgo's (at times overly detailed and gushy) Diary.  

We've gone from flood to drought...

[Vagg 2,439]

4 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

It is a very strange turn around from the last few years, even as far back as the Neeld-era trips to Northern Territory.

In previous years we've had daily photo galleries an accompanying article and Burgo's (at times overly detailed and gushy) Diary.  

We've gone from flood to drought...

Looks like Burgs finally figured out how to get all the sand out of his laptop.  He's filed several diary updates on the MFC site.  Better late than never I s'pose...!

[Demon trucker 1,800]

9 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

It is a very strange turn around from the last few years, even as far back as the Neeld-era trips to Northern Territory.

In previous years we've had daily photo galleries an accompanying article and Burgo's (at times overly detailed and gushy) Diary.  

We've gone from flood to drought...

In the past there was no woman's game have 2 teams now, staff working on weekends game