We've been down that road.

Kochie is a tool.

Bartlett played AFL and is wise enough to make very few public statements ,we hope.

3 minutes ago, Biffen said:

We've been down that road.

Kochie is a tool.

Bartlett played AFL and is wise enough to make very few public statements ,we hope.

I fail to see how ever being a player makes anyone any more qualified as ANYTHING .

Yes..we're much the more marvellous club.

59 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

now that might be an entirely different issue !! lol

Funny..we beat 4 and finished 9th... I dub us the Ninemons! now 

We must be an even more average side 

I'd say both were average over a season but we had much greater variability!

As for Koch's contribution... just a bit of public questioning of the players commitment andsecond-guessing of the coach's team selection, nothing to worry about.

Has the Baton need passed, is Port the new Richmond?

9 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

I'd say both were average over a season but we had much greater variability!

As for Koch's contribution... just a bit of public questioning of the players commitment andsecond-guessing of the coach's team selection, nothing to worry about.

Has the Baton need passed, is Port the new Richmond?

No, thats currently US... Meet the Ninemons !! Do I get any real joy in such cynical sarcasm ?  Strangely more than I do watching us fumble year in year out !!

I agree ..It's Kochie  Sabre rattling.  and we move along...   to the annual navel gazing circus we call  EOS !!

1 hour ago, hemingway said:

Can see the argument both ways. 

My gut instinct at the time was that his comments were inappropriate. 

Were the players committed? Yes

Did they play their guts out? Yes

DId they make some skill errors/miss opportunities to win the game? Yes

Were they unlucky to lose? Yes   

Would the players be hurting badly? Yes

At the end of the day, they were beaten by 1 free kick. By an umpiring decision. 

I guess my feeling is that people don't respond to a roast, headmaster type tirade. The days of administrators and coaches bawling out their players is long over. It's almost personally insulting for it to be said or inferred that the players weren't sufficiently committed or weren't desperate enough. Sure they threw  away opportunities to win the game but that's a different thing. If Charlie Dixon had kicked accurately they would have won. End of story.  No different if Jessie Hogan had kicked 3 Goals, 5 points, missed a goal after the siren and we lost by 5 points. 

Koch was obviously angry post match but that's normal. He is also a publicist and egotist. Most of his working day, it's about him. He is a Jeff Kennett type that likes to blow his own trumpet and be in the limelight. Like Kennett, this behaviour does more harm than good. 

Did the players need a lecture from their President? I suspect not. 

Did the players need their coach to talk to them about their mistakes and missed opportunities ? Yes 

Sorry to derail the thread but how`s the house in Key West Ernest? Hope your cats are OK!

5 hours ago, Demon77 said:

Imagine Demonland if Tommy Bugg had kicked 5 points in an elimination final.

I'd be happy with that.. I mean ... what's the alternative?

Being knocked out of the top 8 by lowly Collingwood by bees dikk and missing out all together.

Just sayin'

His comments definitely weren't Kocher. 

Edited September 11, 20177 yr by Ethan Tremblay

A complete fool who loves nothing more than getting his name in the paper.

 he has obviously never played any sport in his life,  just because you're committed to a premiership doesn't mean you're gonna get one,  what a stupid thing to say every footy player that ever played the game is committed to a premiership, if that's all  it takes Nick Riewoldt  would have 10.

4 hours ago, beelzebub said:

That or otherwise known as getting on the front foot.

I actually prefer Kochies sentiments to the wallowing self pity like mutterings of Bartlett.

I prefer somewhere in the middle

I am still not stuck on our current President, who has said SFA for the whole season...

There are ways to set up unacceptable situations. I think Koch got it wrong...

I have a problem with admin, coaches who use the terms 'they, them' when the team is losing as a way of dissociating themselves from responsibility but latch on to 'we' when the team is successful. Koch's speech is littered with they/them.

Media savvy or not, it's certainly a different take on loyalty for mine.

2 hours ago, Hell Bent said:

Sorry to derail the thread but how`s the house in Key West Ernest? Hope your cats are OK!

Took the cats and fled. Fortunately no one knows where I am.  I still have some old commy friends sinning away in Italy, Spain, Cuba and even Australia so I have a few options and drinking friends. My wives and mistresses are all dead, so I am free to do as I please and not be reminded of all my failures and failings. 

3 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

His comments definitely weren't Kocher. 

At least he Putz himself out there.

Mmmmm.......................

That'll fix it Kochie . . . you'll win a flag next year mate!

Glad he's not president of Melbourne. 

What a Koch.

19 hours ago, Darkhorse72 said:

Not sure it was meant to be made public, but he has clear expectations on what he wants from the clubs players which I like.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/david-koch-fires-off-at-port-adelaide-after-thrilling-finals-loss/news-story/4f5b0eb1bdac743b605b96f16007177

 

I have it on good authority that at half time David Koch was so incensed with rage that he starting muttering incoherently before composing himself and heading down to the ground. He then singled out Charlie Dixon among the players leaving the ground, pushing Boak and a runner out of the way before getting in Charlie's face with "You're a c-nt, you're a c-nt, you're a c-nt". Before Charlie could comprehend what had just taken place Koch was already half way up the race to entertain his Sponsor guests.

Unfortunately Koch's well timed and succinct message did not have the desired effect and Charlie proceeded to kick two more behinds in the remaining half of footy.

Edited September 11, 20177 yr by chookrat

5 hours ago, chookrat said:

I have it on good authority that at half time David Koch was so incensed with rage that he starting muttering incoherently before composing himself and heading down to the ground. He then singled out Charlie Dixon among the players leaving the ground, pushing Boak and a runner out of the way before getting in Charlie's face with "You're a c-nt, you're a c-nt, you're a c-nt". Before Charlie could comprehend what had just taken place Koch was already half way up the race to entertain his Sponsor guests.

Unfortunately Koch's well timed and succinct message did not have the desired effect and Charlie proceeded to kick two more behinds in the remaining half of footy.

IF true, Dixon must be absolutely spewing, and would find it hard to commit to anything to do with such a narcissistic bully boy again.  Those utterances presumably were made in earshot of other players at least, and possibly members if the public.  Can't do a lot for team cohesion  

What us his contract status?  

Kochie is a child who would not be in the position if it weren't for his TV profile. His comments demeaning his players and questioning their commitment after an extra time loss show he knows nothing about the game. He is just a mouth wearing a scarf.

Koch may play quite a price for his rant.

Appears Hinkley wants to be released from his contract.  http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/afl-finals-ken-hinkley-wants-out-of-port-adelaide/news-story/b0cfb3e1f1d9ec8afcd75b5f70122a18

It may become a matter for the AFL to resolve and Hinkley to GCS is probably the AFL's only chance of getting GCS off the road to ruin. 

If it suits them they will make sure he gets there and won't let Port sue him for breach of contract. 

Edited September 17, 20177 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Just my take. Im guessing Hinkley was half out the door long before Kochie opened his mouth

Hinkley has been there for five seasons now for three finals series, and finished a game or two outside the 8 in the two 'failed' years ...that's not too shabby given their side, which is only average at best

You can completely understand him wanting the security of a five year deal 

Dew would be the logical replacement at the Power you'd expect

11 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

Hinkley has been there for five seasons now for three finals series, and finished a game or two outside the 8 in the two 'failed' years ...that's not too shabby given their side, which is only average at best

You can completely understand him wanting the security of a five year deal 

Dew would be the logical replacement at the Power you'd expect

....and I'd be more concerned about how Dew might make Port more competitive than anything Hinkley could accomplish with our norther basket-casers

Hinkley will be gone at 4.30 today..

10 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Hinkley will be gone at 4.30 today..

major rebuild at GC ahead,,,......  Id be looking north for bargains !!  

On 11/09/2017 at 7:43 PM, chookrat said:

He then singled out Charlie Dixon among the players leaving the ground, pushing Boak and a runner out of the way before getting in Charlie's face with "You're a c-nt, you're a c-nt, you're a c-nt".

To which he should've replied  'well at least one of us is warm and wonderful'.