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Before today I have never taken pen to paper to discuss a potential trade but the thought of Melbourne trading Jack Watts has me both livid and incredulous. I'll briefly outline my reasons why:

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I just want to say that Jack did not come back to pre season under done, in fact he came back in the same shape as 2016 which was good, he had a great year. His 3 k time trial was his best ever, you c

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17 hours ago, Die Hard Demon said:

More I think about it .. the more I wouldn't mind this scenario. Goody most likely will want to emulate the small pressure forward blueprint .. and a forward line of Rohan, Garlett and Hannan would be a good mix. All can take a mark, great goal sense and can lay a tackle. – Pending we get Lever, TMac & Hogan forward, with those 3 blokes at their feet makes for a pretty exciting forward set up.

I've always rated Rohan and would love to see him in the red and the blue.

That said, I'd thought the knock on him was his lack of defensive pressure.

 

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While it is highly  what happens if Watts comes back to the club tells the Football Department to take a long jump of a short pier and under no circumstance will he be traded while under contract. Does anyone know if a player has taken such a stance before ?

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1 hour ago, spalding said:

interesting

seems like he doesn't want to get out of his comfort zone and that living in Melbourne is a priority over footballing opportunity.

Yet we're salivating about the prospect of getting a young required player from a club that just played in a Grand Final because he wants to live in MLB. Fair dinkum.

 

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1 hour ago, rpfc said:

You are either showing your age or your emotional maturity - no player has copped more than Jack Watts on this board or with MFC fans.

So double standards are ok in going after a young kid? Complete hypocrisy from @jumbo returns who has been one of the most vocal in jumping down the throats of anyone who has criticised Watts at one time or another.

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3 minutes ago, Rafiki said:

A close family friend of Jack told me the main reason he went to Adelaide was to see his good friend Tom Lynch and that he is a fair chance to stay at the Dees

In the lead-up to the GF??

Seems unlikely and pretty illogical to be fair.

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7 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

So double standards are ok in going after a young kid? Complete hypocrisy from @jumbo returns who has been one of the most vocal in jumping down the throats of anyone who has criticised Watts at one time or another.

Not here to defend jumbo. Don't like it when history gets rewritten. End of story.

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9 hours ago, McQueen said:

Listening to Healy OTC tonight speak about Watts leaving. Implied that it's not a given and that he still might decide to stick around.

Wonder what discussions if any he's had with Jones considering they're buddies..

 

I hope Goodwin watches the OTC interview with Hardwick.

Everyone talks about Richmond's defensive pressure and intensity around the contest, but a key component to the Tigers' success, in Hardwick's words, has been about creating a safe and happy environment for the players and 'believing and investing in your people'.

Hardwick quite consciously decided not to micro-manage the life out of everything this year - and looked what happened.

As I've stated previously, I am very impressed with Goodwin and think he will be an excellent long term coach for us. But everyone has blind spots, and most first year coaches seem to take some time to know when to loosen the grip on everything. Goodwin might still be in this zone a little.

 

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3 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I hope Goodwin watches the OTC interview with Hardwick.

Everyone talks about Richmond's defensive pressure and intensity around the contest, but a key component to the Tigers' success, in Hardwick's words, has been about creating a safe and happy environment for the players and 'believing and investing in your people'.

Hardwick quite consciously decided not to micro-manage the life out of everything this year - and looked what happened.

As I've stated previously, I am very impressed with Goodwin and think he will be an excellent long term coach for us. But everyone has blind spots, and most first year coaches seem to take some time to know when to loosen the grip on everything. Goodwin might still be in this zone a little.

 

Ron, this idea that you appear to have around Goodwin is based off his decision to finally move on Watts for the benefit of player and club.

In my opinion (and I know we're all at different levels on this) it should be considered as gutsy and with a clear understanding of the situation.

Goodwin's CV is impeccable.

Watts is not.

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1 hour ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I've always rated Rohan and would love to see him in the red and the blue.

That said, I'd thought the knock on him was his lack of defensive pressure.

 

The knock on him is he just doesn't stand up in the big games...

He's a no for me.

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12 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Ron, this idea that you appear to have around Goodwin is based off his decision to finally move on Watts for the benefit of player and club.

In my opinion (and I know we're all at different levels on this) it should be considered as gutsy and with a clear understanding of the situation.

Goodwin's CV is impeccable.

Watts is not.

I really rate Goodwin. And his CV. He's an asset to this club.

But decisions like this can have some seriously negative and unintended consequences for the club, and I really hope any decision to move Watts on is not in this bucket.

 

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4 minutes ago, rjay said:

The knock on him is he just doesn't stand up in the big games...

He's a no for me.

That is the knock on him and it seems borne out in this years finals series, however he does have speed which we lack and he is a big body. Not the worst idea.

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1 hour ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

While it is highly  what happens if Watts comes back to the club tells the Football Department to take a long jump of a short pier and under no circumstance will he be traded while under contract. Does anyone know if a player has taken such a stance before ?

Most recent example would be Hamish Harlett last year.  Off the top of my head I can think of Brayshaw and Rischitelli from Brisbane who were offered up for Fevola. Both left BL after their contracts ended for close to 0 on their own terms. 

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1 minute ago, Deefiant said:

Most recent example would be Hamish Harlett last year.  Off the top of my head I can think of Brayshaw and Rischitelli from Brisbane who were offered up for Fevola. Both left BL after their contracts ended for close to 0 on their own terms. 

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14 minutes ago, rjay said:

I would think not.

He has not always made the best decisions, hopefully that is behind him now and he has good council to assist.

I'm basing it off his career thus far.

You appear to be basing it off one year as senior Coach of the MFC with some perceived poor decisions?

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10 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

I feel Watts will announce today that he is staying at the Melbourne football club.

If he does, it needs to be a galvanising moment for him and he'd need to come out firing in 2018. Otherwise he'd certainly be gone at the end of next season you would think.

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2 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

Just announced on AFL Trade radio that Watts not interested in moving interstate.

Just when I thought I was the only schmuck streaming Trade Radio.

They're about to stream a function where Watts and Paul Connors are both speaking at. Watch this space.

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