Nathan Jones Media Conference

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

So he wasn't on the ground on Saturday.

But he let his co captain front up and grovel to the media by himself.

If you're captain, you don't pick and choose when you are/aren't.

And you sure as [censored] don't pull the "not my responsibility" line.

Not a good look for Jack.

[Demons1858 1,742]

13 minutes ago, Leoncelli_36 said:

That's all I needed to hear. That's it. close the door. Focus on the progress we did make this year, in what was a challenging year. We had some horrible luck this year and created some equally horrible luck for ourselves. We are all hurting. They are hurting. We don't need apologies....are we all three years old and can't move on unless we hear "sorry" .

i think I'm in the 3 year old bracket you talk about. Don't want vanilla statements using MFC media. Simon, Peter, and Misson-in-games needed to have fronted together and called out some clear areas where they have failed and leave the detail for a review later (which we know won't see the light of day). Some early calls by the playing group about coming back early to training, missing mad monday blah blah blah

[DSP 1,488]

Someone might want to tell the club to update the website...

 

Its not a good look....

[Die Hard Demon 1,224]

1 minute ago, DSP said:

Someone might want to tell the club to update the website...

 

Its not a good look....

Don't be surprised if the whole PR team have been sacrificed

[dees189227 12,368]

Tell u what, you would want to rock up to pre season in the right shape and attitude. 

I wonder how much anger the club has copped.  The poor receptionist.  Not there fault. 

Wonder if Goodwin will speak by the end of the wk. 

[Ethan Tremblay 30,823]

Blah blah blah. Couldn't give a [censored] what Jones or the club have to say at the moment. 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

Simon Goodwin spotted in international departure lounge

[Jibroni 4,987]

Just now, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Simon Goodwin spotted in international departure lounge

Probably flying Virgin.

[pineapple dee 2,892]

can I just suggest that players learn to tackle and do it properly, with intent. Grab the opponent and pin their arms.  I'm a simple soul and not a football guru, but this is what I'd like to see addressed.

 

[Die Hard Demon 1,224]

2 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

can I just suggest that players learn to tackle and do it properly, with intent. Grab the opponent and pin their arms.  I'm a simple soul and not a football guru, but this is what I'd like to see addressed.

 

It's a bit hard to show off your tackling prowess if you can't lay a tackle in the first place

[deebug 1,754]

36 minutes ago, franga said:

Rumor gathering that Jonesy calling it quits.   Please no

??????????? Did you not hear what he just said?

[Sir Why You Little 36,955]

55 minutes ago, Demon Jack said:

Live updates on Twitter

Not sure how to embed the tweets so I'll summarise them here

________________________________________________________________________________________

Jones: It's a pretty bitter pill to swallow

Jones: The players are hurting as much as our supporters are livid

Jones: The mood has been very flat. Yesterday was out of our control due to our performance on Saturday

Blah Blah Blah....

[Robbie57 2,020]

still feel sick. 

Why is Jones hung out to dry alone? The first person I thought of Sunday night was Jones who deserved more from his team mates. Viney and the coach should have been there. 

[wheaters31 671]

A lot of people disappointed with the clubs email about finals.

However, it said in the email, that priority period tickets were available to members at 9am-1pm on Tuesday 29th, leaving only Monday for the email to be sent and viewed by supporters if we made finals. I think as a supporter group we would be a lot more disappointed if we didn't receive this email with a few days notice, and miss out on tickets to finals. That's how I feel about it anyway.

[Yze_13 283]

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

and not that anyone will find it palatable but Essendon just went from LAST with 3 wins to 7th and finals. Yes..I know..THAT club...but  their lightning resurrection and rise...is a ....FACT

Anything MFC comes up with is will be all but laughable in that context. Best they say nothing imho.

Nonsensical comparison considering who they had out last year.

[pineapple dee 2,892]

4 minutes ago, Die Hard Demon said:

It's a bit hard to show off your tackling prowess if you can't lay a tackle in the first place

Then learn it .... and do it.

[bing181 9,193]

59 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

All the supporters want to know is that they're hurting as much as we are...

Speak for yourself. Wallowing in self-pity isn't really my thing, but more to the point, achieves nothing.

As a some of the more even-keeled posters have pointed out already, what we want/need is a systematic, methodical review of the whole season (not just one game), where, why and how we came up short, and what we're going to do to address it. This from the players through the medical/conditioning staff and boot-studders to the coaches, FD and Board.

Which I'm sure is happening. As it would have in any case.

[Demons1858 1,742]

49 minutes ago, DubDee said:

i know you are hurting like us all but are you saying over the past 11 years you have been more optimistic than now?  we almost folded a few years back!

No, its more white hot anger. I think Jones said supporters are livid in his orchestrated presser controlled nicely by the MFC. It was probably the only thing he said that resonated with me out of all the motherhood statements he made.

The equation below should give you some indication about why this game and the back end of this season have upset so many:

'Livid' index =  Odds of winning (high) x Reward for winning (high) x Lack of Intensity (high)

[deebug 1,754]

4 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

can I just suggest that players learn to tackle and do it properly, with intent. Grab the opponent and pin their arms.  I'm a simple soul and not a football guru, but this is what I'd like to see addressed.

 

Like i said before bit hard to lay a tackle when you a ten steps away from your man. It's also like no one stands in the forward arch any more or the back line, this needs to change if you want to win games. This rubbish of running down from the back line to the forward line is killing us we just don't know how the hell to do it right.

Also why the hell do they always kick to the right after a point, why not down the centre? 

[Sir Why You Little 36,955]

I remember the exact same Press Conference in 2011 after 186 except it was fronted by Jared Rivers

THIS CLUB DOES NOT LEARN, it repeats itself....

[nutbean 8,838]

18 minutes ago, pineapple dee said:

can I just suggest that players learn to tackle and do it properly, with intent. Grab the opponent and pin their arms.  I'm a simple soul and not a football guru, but this is what I'd like to see addressed.

 

And here is the problem - it is not about learning to tackle. In our middle part of the year when we were on a roll we were close to the top of the pops for pressure acts and our tackling was exemplary. 

Saturday's tackling  was not a lack of knowledge - it was a lack of desire and application.

[Demonsone 2,032]

Just as gutted & angry as all members are but.....

what difference is it going to make if all the players & coaches were there? The captain has fronted up to take blame ect  Strobg  clubs will make the changes to their lists & keep it internal ..I'm sure Goody will be methodical & make those changes needed to improve...

[jnrmac 20,053]

38 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Simon Goodwin spotted in international departure lounge

Hopefully he's going to New Zealand to speak with Dustin Martin

[layzie 33,741]

Yeah interesting look. Credit to Nathan for doing that but if Jack were to given sole captaincy this would have been a good first act.

[rolling fog 1,207]

Hoping Goodwin pops up on 360 or the like at some point this week. Think it needs to be done.

*ffs just not the footy show*