45 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

It gives me the shits we don't have him

So you want to swap with Tyson, Salem, Hunt, et al?

12 minutes ago, CBDees said:

So you want to swap with Tyson, Salem, Hunt, et al?

No I want them all

6 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

FB: Jetta  Oscar  Hibberd
HB: Hunt  Frost   Salem
C: JKH   Oliver  Jones
HF: Hannan  Petracca ANB
FF: Watts   Tom Mc   Garlett
Foll:  Gawn  Viney  Tyson
Int:  Maynard,  Vince/Wagner,  Melksham,  Harmes

Out: Hogan (inj), Lewis (rested), Trengove (retired)
In:  Jones,  Maynard, Vince/Wagner

I'd back Hannan in to bounce back unless he's really sore and then maybe bring in Stretch or DJ. 

Up to Goody if he wants to give Vince his spot back or punish his stupidity.

There's no room for Lewis this week. The Giants are too quick in the midfield and run far too hard on the wings. We don't need a loose man back and we can't carry a midfielder with no pace or run, not one who is afraid of putting their head over it either.

Petracca has to go forward and be a creative link player. Bring Maynard in to crash and bash around the packs.

Seriously? There is room for Lewis every week 

6 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

There's no room for Lewis this week. The Giants are too quick in the midfield and run far too hard on the wings. We don't need a loose man back and we can't carry a midfielder with no pace or run, not one who is afraid of putting their head over it either.

Mind suitably boggled.

In: A return to form

Out: The utter garbage we witnessed against North.

Vince, Weid and Jones in. Hogan, Hannan and Trenners out.

On 30/07/2017 at 10:54 AM, Hell Bent said:

The Jack Trengove Experience is over.  

Massive fan of his but he cost us several goals yesterday and had no impact whatsoever,  I thought it was a very poor performance from someone as experienced, playing for his career 

I would agree but being at the game can only say his was not the only very poor performance in such an apparently important match. Trengove also contributed some useful moments as did others. What he lacked was the "impact" play but again he was not the only one who failed in that.

There were a number of players who cost us goals and every player would be dropped if the criteria applied to JT was universal. 

JT should not be the scapegoat nor should his career be defined on this game.

But he may miss this game due to structures and the roles that are needed for this weeks competitors 

11 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

Weid outplayed Pedo in the 2's so he comes in.

Pedo's early season form irrevelent

Weid will be a star but  needs to  bulk-up to be seriously competitive in the Seniors .

 

17 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

FB: Jetta  Oscar  Hibberd
HB: Hunt  Frost   Salem
C: JKH   Oliver  Jones
HF: Hannan  Petracca ANB
FF: Watts   Tom Mc   Garlett
Foll:  Gawn  Viney  Tyson
Int:  Maynard,  Vince/Wagner,  Melksham,  Harmes

Out: Hogan (inj), Lewis (rested), Trengove (retired)
In:  Jones,  Maynard, Vince/Wagner

I'd back Hannan in to bounce back unless he's really sore and then maybe bring in Stretch or DJ. 

Up to Goody if he wants to give Vince his spot back or punish his stupidity.

There's no room for Lewis this week. The Giants are too quick in the midfield and run far too hard on the wings. We don't need a loose man back and we can't carry a midfielder with no pace or run, not one who is afraid of putting their head over it either.

Petracca has to go forward and be a creative link player. Bring Maynard in to crash and bash around the packs.

No Lewis? it's our biggest game of the year. Lose this and we are out of the 8 and will struggle to make finals and you want to rest our most experienced player? Can you not see that we struggle from lack of leadership in a normal game let alone a must win finals type game against a premiership contender?

10 hours ago, dee-eee said:

Weid will be a star but  needs to  bulk-up to be seriously competitive in the Seniors .

 

Tell that to Hipworth from Brisbane

No Lewis ? That's funny.

On 30/07/2017 at 0:17 PM, mongrel said:

Without Hogan now I would think this would be the best 22 we would want in form for the remainder of the season:

B: Jetta Frost Hibberd

HB: Hunt Omac Salem

C: Tyson Oliver Lewis

HF: Hannan Watts Melksham

F: Garlett Tmac Petracca

Fol: Gawn Viney Jones 

Int: Vince Harmes ANB

If we need the extra tall so Tmac can play deeper fwd obviously Pederson would come in with backup ruck duties where he was successful earlier in the season.

 

I assume your 22nd player is the Invisible Man. That should give us heaps of outside run.

I fear for JKH and JT, as they are likely to have to make way for Jones and Vince. Others to feature heavily in selection conversations are Hannan/Watts/Frost although they all have some credits in the bank and we would back them to turn things around this week.

Baring unknown injury news there will be 3 changes. Maybe 4 if someone is sore and they want to trial Maynard.

In:Jones/Vince/Weid

Out: JKH/JT/Hogan

Hoping Weid is in form and will be better with the support of other talls in TMac and Watts which he didn't always have earlier in the year

Edited August 1, 20177 yr by Demons1858

Playing the weid would be a big risk but it could give the opportunity for tmac to go back if necessary.  If any rain then forget it.. I would have Hogan and Trenners out with Jones and Vince coming in.

Agree he is a risk but he needs to get exposed to improve and that should be when he is in form and has the support of other talls to limit the double teaming that happened when he played earlier in the year and carried some injuries.

What if he has a breakout game and takes some strong pack marks and goals?

Drop Watts until he decides to try again

He is playing like he is in a stupor

Moves like he is running in treacle and is showing zero aggression at the contest

He currently appears to me to be a liability

1 hour ago, jackaub said:

Drop Watts until he decides to try again

He is playing like he is in a stupor

Moves like he is running in treacle and is showing zero aggression at the contest

He currently appears to me to be a liability

At least it wasn't in all caps. 

When Watts had some ruck duties he was at his best, i think he responds to a challenge. In any event he is no top of the drops for mine. Trenners and Hannan out. Jones, Vince and Weid in. I think against the GWS the weid is a chance to play well. I dont think you counter GWS's speed and switch by just speed alone you have to cut off the switch. Last week we were out-coached (TMAC had to be dropped back when they had the wind) and Goody will learn from that. 

17 minutes ago, Robbie57 said:

At least it wasn't in all caps. 

When Watts had some ruck duties he was at his best, i think he responds to a challenge. In any event he is no top of the drops for mine. Trenners and Hannan out. Jones, Vince and Weid in. I think against the GWS the weid is a chance to play well. I dont think you counter GWS's speed and switch by just speed alone you have to cut off the switch. Last week we were out-coached (TMAC had to be dropped back when they had the wind) and Goody will learn from that. 

Would TMAC really have made a difference? Ultimately we wanted to play on our terms and once Hogan went down we needed Tom forward. Brown has two shots on goal when out marking 3-4 Melbourne defenders. That says it all really. And it was more so our ineptness going forward in the 4th that lost it for us, not Brown beating our defenders.

Edited August 1, 20177 yr by praha

 

1 hour ago, dl4e said:

Playing the weid would be a big risk but it could give the opportunity for tmac to go back if necessary.  If any rain then forget it.. I would have Hogan and Trenners out with Jones and Vince coming in.

Agreed. As much as I'd also like to see Maynard get a gig, this week probably isn't the week to play him given that our finals chances are kind of on the ropes and if it is wet then weidman won't be much chop I wouldn't think. I'd expect that we stick with bringing in the leaders like Jones and Vince. Maybe bring weids and Maynard in against Saints or Brisbane if the opportunity arises.

 

2 hours ago, Demons1858 said:

I fear for JKH and JT, as they are likely to have to make way for Jones and Vince. Others to feature heavily in selection conversations are Hannan/Watts/Frost although they all have some credits in the bank and we would back them to turn things around this week.

Baring unknown injury news there will be 3 changes. Maybe 4 if someone is sore and they want to trial Maynard.

In:Jones/Vince/Weid

Out: JKH/JT/Hogan

Hoping Weid is in form and will be better with the support of other talls in TMac and Watts which he didn't always have earlier in the year

If JT is dropped, I dont think we will ever see him playing for us again.

4 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

Tell that to Hipworth from Brisbane

For once we agree, thought I was the only one impressed with 'bulk"

 

3 hours ago, beelzebub said:

No Lewis ? That's funny.

It's not even funny beelzebub, it's a frightening suggestion, I sometimes wonder whether some actually face the right way when watching the footy

3 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

If JT is dropped, I dont think we will ever see him playing for us again.

Well hes not up to AFL standard anymore, so you're right.

2 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Well hes not up to AFL standard anymore, so you're right.

It's strange that a top 3 draft pick or whatever he was is in serious question at the age of 25. I know he missed a year but he's fit now. I think the MFC has been pretty patient with the guy and alas he may still be around but if you were to place a bet....odds are he won't be with us.

22 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

We're already chalking up a win based on GWS's outs, days after a poor effort against a wooden spoon contender?

No wonder the server crashes after a loss. 

 

All too regular a mindset here I am afraid.  Been happening for years.

X, Y, or Z is out - hooray!!!  We will win easily.  

Those who go on with this seem to forget that X, Y and Z are replaced by M, N and O.....so it still ends up our 22 vs their 22, and our 22 need to be focussed and at it all day.

 

2 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

If JT is dropped, I dont think we will ever see him playing for us again.

Sad truth, it seems.  86 games so won't even qualify for f/s, if that were to eventuate

3 hours ago, Robbie57 said:

At least it wasn't in all caps. 

When Watts had some ruck duties he was at his best, i think he responds to a challenge.

Here's a big one. Kick a goal.

On 31/07/2017 at 4:28 PM, Moonshadow said:

Would've thought if the forecast definitely predicts rain we might bring Jones and Vince in for Hogan and either Trenners or Hannan. If no rain, the Weid is a chance

colder than hobart and windy

Canberra area

Max temperature 11C.  Partly cloudy. Medium (40%) chance of showers, most likely in the morning. Winds northwesterly 25 to 35 km/h becoming light during the evening.