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Oliver is no 'stager'!

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28 minutes ago, P-man said:

Sure, I get that view. There is an imbalance in terms of the amount of focus on Oliver when he's the one whose been elbowed in the face. Schofield would've been worthy of a week suspension had it been upheld.

But by the same token, I'm not a fan of staging. Never have been and never will be. I gleefully mock those who do it. Lindsay Thomas is my most hated player purely because of it.

IF this is in that vicinity (and I acknowledge it's an IF), then I can't be a hypocrite and shrug my shoulders. Plus Oliver is way too good to be mucking about with this stuff.

Fair enough. The other part that galls me a bit is the fact that you acknowledge that it's a "big if", but are carping on about it as if it's fact. But that's nothing I haven't already said in this thread a dozen times now, and I'm a fan of yours and appreciate the reasonable middle ground approach to your post, so I don't think I'll keep going over it.

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    Just now, Nasher said:

    Fair enough. The other part that galls me a bit is the fact that you acknowledge that it's a "big if", but are carping on about it as if it's fact. But that's nothing I haven't already said in this thread a dozen times now, and I'm a fan of yours and appreciate the reasonable middle ground approach to your post, so I don't think I'll keep going over it.

    Likewise mate. I was applying benefit of the doubt to begin with but it's lessened. That doesn't mean I'm certain about it, because I'm not. I'm also not just going to disregard his own pleas of innocence.

    He's 19 years old and still wet behind the ears at this level. So either way there's no reason to think this will define him. But I am hopeful we won't see another incident that causes focus being taken away from his talent.

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    1 hour ago, Nasher said:

    It's not without possibility, but it still upsets me though that after all this, the focus is still on how the victim reacted to being punched. It's part of a much broader cultural issue and I thought you would get that. @rpfcdid a good post on this on the very early pages on this thread.

    I want to be clear. I give Clarry the benefit of the doubt on the dive, but ultimately it's irrelevant. I don't care if Oliver did a triple backflip with pike - Schofield threw an elbow and got away with it purely because everyone decided they weren't happy with the way the victim of the elbow reacted to it. I reckon it stinks to high heaven.

    This.

    Close thread.

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    Heard various media today and the general consensus is that Clarry is a stager with no ifs and buts about it. Apparently a new form of low life.  There is also an expectation as well as anticipation that the Swans will punish him for it tomorrow night and that Schofield is basically a saint. Hope he puts a 40 possession game and sticks it right up them and then tells them to fark off if they want an interview.

    Edited by america de cali

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    The foibles of the Footy Fraternity. Schofield at half time, ten weeks coming up. Sunday, mom to the rescue. We'll find someone who ran into him to say you didn't touch him. Monday/Tuesday by the grace of grace, attack any messenger within the industry( sound familiar).

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    On 28/06/2017 at 11:53 AM, McQueen said:

    In today's West Australian rag.

    As if we needed anymore reason to loathe this mob.

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    That's hilarious. And these front runners can't defeat a team they depict like this. Wet Toast are on a fast train to nowhere ( as we saw last week).

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    3 minutes ago, mrtwister said:

    Aaaaannnnndddd Schofield isn't playing anyway.

    Flogs

    Oliver must have hit Snowflake on his hip with his chin.

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    2 minutes ago, america de cali said:

    Oliver must have hit Snowflake on his hip with his chin.

    Mum didn't want him to play this week, pressing his luck too much

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    10 minutes ago, willmoy said:

    Mum didn't want him to play this week, pressing his luck too much

    The appeal was so he still had a chance to win the Brownlow

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    3 minutes ago, Gipsy Danger said:

    Clarry definitely didn't stage. Clearly must be playing concussed tonight

    He was on the bench for the first 12 minutes of the game. Oliver has been in and around the contest, but just hasn't been able to get his hands on it. We were getting absolutely smashed in and around the contests before Oliver was even on the ground. I suspect Oliver has nothing to do with why we have been ordinary. He always tries, and tonight he can hold his head high.

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    22 minutes ago, KingDingAling said:

    He was on the bench for the first 12 minutes of the game. Oliver has been in and around the contest, but just hasn't been able to get his hands on it. We were getting absolutely smashed in and around the contests before Oliver was even on the ground. I suspect Oliver has nothing to do with why we have been ordinary. He always tries, and tonight he can hold his head high.

    He's been pretty ordinary tonight

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    Needs to kick more. Thought he had started becoming more balanced, but was handballin to less skilled players. In the last he hand balled while running towards goal, to a stationary Gawn...

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    30 minutes ago, Mickey said:

    Needs to kick more. Thought he had started becoming more balanced, but was handballin to less skilled players. In the last he hand balled while running towards goal, to a stationary Gawn...

    He needs to ping for the goals. Petracca is always chasing that goal. Oliver doesn't seem interested in kicking goals. He needs to be damaging forward of centre. He is still a great young player. Oliver's work in and around a contest is up there with the best I have seen, but I think he can push forward - he just isn't. Why he isn't may be something we need to get to the bottom of. Because he is capable of pushing forward and kicking goals.

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    2 minutes ago, Jaded said:

    Seemed distracted. Or tired. Or both. Not his day today. 

    And, unfortunately, not alone.

    They all looked mentally and physically drained, and though not pivotal, Bugg's brain fade did not help.

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    Disappointing timing to have his worst game for the year. 

    Just more ammo for those flogs in WA.

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    On 6/29/2017 at 1:18 PM, SFebey said:

    What is MFCSS?

    Melbourne Football Club Supporter Syndrome.

    There was an experiment demonstrating MFCSS back in the 1970s, the 'golden days' of psychology (back before there were ethics boards and all that terrible red tape).

    They put a dog in a cage with an electrified floor. Periodically they would run a current through the circuit, inflicting pain on the dog. The dog would try to get away from the pain, searching for any spot without current, but it was all painful. The 'researchers' kept repeating the test until the dog gave up trying to get away from the pain, and just remained still and whimpering each time it got blasted. Then they flicked a switch which meant that part of the floor was no longer electrified. But of course the dog had given up searching, so even though safety and relief was literally centimeters away, the dog kept on taking the pain over and over.

    MFCSS in a nutshell.

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    18 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

    Melbourne Football Club Supporter Syndrome.

    There was an experiment demonstrating MFCSS back in the 1970s, the 'golden days' of psychology (back before there were ethics boards and all that terrible red tape).

    They put a dog in a cage with an electrified floor. Periodically they would run a current through the circuit, inflicting pain on the dog. The dog would try to get away from the pain, searching for any spot without current, but it was all painful. The 'researchers' kept repeating the test until the dog gave up trying to get away from the pain, and just remained still and whimpering each time it got blasted. Then they flicked a switch which meant that part of the floor was no longer electrified. But of course the dog had given up searching, so even though safety and relief was literally centimeters away, the dog kept on taking the pain over and over.

    MFCSS in a nutshell.

    Poor dog :(

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    Did anyone else hear the Swan's supporters starting to boo Oliver but was very week and just died out. Nuff nuff's.

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    6 minutes ago, MT64 said:

    Did anyone else hear the Swan's supporters starting to boo Oliver but was very week and just died out. Nuff nuff's.

    Yes - agree. I was worried when I heard that - but I think it's going to die out.

    Thanks heavens.

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