MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 8

[old dee 22,923]

2 hours ago, america de cali said:

Never tip either. It's all about hope for me. 

That is a commodity that I have been using constantly  over the last ten years.

The bin is close to empty, actually the only thing I have left in any quantity is doubt.

That one is still close to full.

[old dee 22,923]

13 minutes ago, hardtack said:

They'll be doing all they can to win this week, for fear of another pen lashing from "the bloke".

I thought you were talking about the crows hardtack and I expect it applies to them more us.

[old55 21,356]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-05-10/vfl-player-review-round-four

Kent for JKH the obvious and maybe only change

Plapp:

Dean Kent: Dean had 18 possessions, seven tackles and kicked 1.1. It wasn’t the type of game where Kenty wasn’t able to show all of his strengths, because of the conditions. But the one pleasing thing out of Kenty’s game – that we were most pleased about – was his forward pressure. His ability to impact ground balls and put the opposition under pressure created opportunities for us. It’s been two weeks now that Kenty has played the way we want him to. He certainly puts his name up for AFL selection this week.

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

I'll go the early call and say Trengove may be in

[Nasher 33,068]

6 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-05-10/vfl-player-review-round-four

Kent for JKH the obvious and maybe only change

Plapp:

Dean Kent: Dean had 18 possessions, seven tackles and kicked 1.1. It wasn’t the type of game where Kenty wasn’t able to show all of his strengths, because of the conditions. But the one pleasing thing out of Kenty’s game – that we were most pleased about – was his forward pressure. His ability to impact ground balls and put the opposition under pressure created opportunities for us. It’s been two weeks now that Kenty has played the way we want him to. He certainly puts his name up for AFL selection this week.

That's great news to read that, he clearly doesn't belong in the VFL when in form. Ringing endorsements from Plapp like that are usually followed by being picked unless you are Jack Grimes.

[old55 21,356]

8 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2017-05-10/vfl-player-review-round-four

Kent for JKH the obvious and maybe only change

Plapp:

Dean Kent: Dean had 18 possessions, seven tackles and kicked 1.1. It wasn’t the type of game where Kenty wasn’t able to show all of his strengths, because of the conditions. But the one pleasing thing out of Kenty’s game – that we were most pleased about – was his forward pressure. His ability to impact ground balls and put the opposition under pressure created opportunities for us. It’s been two weeks now that Kenty has played the way we want him to. He certainly puts his name up for AFL selection this week.

I'd like to see Stretch for Bugg too.

I hope we persist with Hannan and Wagner.

I think it's possible ANB could come straight back in if he was "rested" last week.

[Dwight Schrute 16,801]

16 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I'll go the early call and say Trengove may be in

I assume something happened at training?

[leehow 285]

16 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I'll go the early call and say Trengove may be in

Something said at training?

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

27 minutes ago, Nasher said:

That's great news to read that, he clearly doesn't belong in the VFL when in form. Ringing endorsements from Plapp like that are usually followed by being picked unless you are Jack Grimes.

Yes but the disappointing thing was being sent back to Casey because he wasn't doing it at AFL level

Edited May 11, 2017 by Satyriconhome

[chook fowler 18,277]

14 minutes ago, Nasher said:

That's great news to read that, he clearly doesn't belong in the VFL when in form. Ringing endorsements from Plapp like that are usually followed by being picked unless you are Jack Grimes.

Or Trenners

[DemonOX 8,540]

1 hour ago, small but forward said:

I've tipped us every week and I'm not about to stop now.

that said, this strategy is more in hope as I'm flying the family over to watch the game. Don't want my $1500 for flights, accomm, tickets and large alcohol bill to be to see our worst showing for the year. GO dees (preferably from the first bounce this weekend, please).

I think ur alcohol bill will be more than ur flights and accommodation by the end of the game small !!

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

17 minutes ago, Abe said:

I assume something happened at training?

No

17 minutes ago, leehow said:

Something said at training?

And No.

My observation from training

[dazzledavey36 48,842]

36 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

I'll go the early call and say Trengove may be in

What makes you say that? Did he train with the main squad?

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

What makes you say that? Did he train with the main squad?

It was a strange short session, more like a craft session  no full field ball movement surprisingly, everybody trained together 

No my gut feel, could have misread, hence the 'may be in'

 

[leehow 285]

11 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

No

And No.

My observation from training

Can you explain what was different at this training session to the first seven weeks? There is obviously something you've seen.

[In Harmes Way 7,528]

29 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

I think ur alcohol bill will be more than ur flights and accommodation by the end of the game small !!

Who knows, Ox, maybe this is the weekend my 11yo boy will give up on Hoges and take up bundy and coke instead...

[Wiseblood 24,636]

I can't see Trengove being selected this week.  I don't think he will flourish against the Crows.  He'll get his chance, but I'm just not sold on it being this week.  

Having said the above, just watch me end up being wrong.

I reckon Kent and Stretch are the other two who will come in to provide a little more of that run, carry and spread.  JKH and Buggy are the ones to make way IMO.

[Gorgoroth 12,329]

Trenners for Bugg, Kent for JKH.

[Go the Biff 3,135]

1 hour ago, Fifty-5 said:

I'd like to see Stretch for Bugg too.

 

Agreed and I found this encouraging

Billy Stretch: Billy had 25 possessions, five marks and four tackles. After being left out of the senior team, he started the game really well. The thing I was most happy about with his game was his ability to take the game on and send us forward. He continues to build his game around his contest and flexibility of roles. He contributed well.

 

[Upper Combukta West 48]

I liked the wrap on Mitch King in the VFL report.

"...We want him to have more of an impact around the ground, particularly in marking contests." 

I have a suspicion they're grooming him for a forward/ruck position.

....not that this has any impact on this weeks game.

[Dee Zephyr 17,614]

I have liked Trengove from the day we drafted him but unfortunately I believe his best is in the past. What could he bring to the team that Harmes can't? If Harmes is fit surely he gets a game before Trengove this week. He's  faster, stronger and can take a mark for his size. Harmes, Kent and Stretch need to play in games like these for the sake of their so called "development".

[Dwight Schrute 16,801]

7 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

I have liked Trengove from the day we drafted him but unfortunately I believe his best is in the past. What could he bring to the team that Harmes can't? If Harmes is fit surely he gets a game before Trengove this week. He's  faster, stronger and can take a mark for his size. Harmes, Kent and Stretch need to play in games like these for the sake of their so called "development".

Trengove is smarter, a much better on field leader and a MUCH better ball user than Harmes, 

considering a lot of our issues against the hawks seemed to be based around lack of organisation/ on field leadership i think you could make a great case for Trengove if it were as simple as Harmes vs Trenners, 

unforunately i can't see him playing unless one of our other inside mids is under a cloud 

[Nasher 33,068]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Yes but the disappointing thing was being sent back to Casey because he wasn't doing it at AFL level

Agreed. All you can do once you're back there though is show the right signs. It sounds as if he's done it a couple of weeks in a row, so here's hoping.

[DemonOX 8,540]

1 hour ago, small but forward said:

Who knows, Ox, maybe this is the weekend my 11yo boy will give up on Hoges and take up bundy and coke instead...

That's mothers milk mate u have taught him well. 

[Dee Zephyr 17,614]

27 minutes ago, Abe said:

Trengove is smarter, a much better on field leader and a MUCH better ball user than Harmes, 

considering a lot of our issues against the hawks seemed to be based around lack of organisation/ on field leadership i think you could make a great case for Trengove if it were as simple as Harmes vs Trenners, 

unforunately i can't see him playing unless one of our other inside mids is under a cloud 

Valid point Abe, I didn't want to make it a case of Harmes vs Trengove debate because each player has a different skillset they bring to the team. In my opinion I'd rather see games added to our bunch of players around the 20 game mark. Unfortunately I can't see Trengove being the short or long term solution not to any fault of his own though.