Josh Schache

[Demon Disciple 12,453]

If it was for a pick in the late 20's, i'd do the trade.

You're probably not going to find a better prospect at whatever that pick may be in the draft, so why not. He clearly has talent, all be it he's a little fragile (and would still need a few years to develop, ala Weideman).

If we bring him in, we have 2 potentials to partner up with Hogan long-term, if both turn out to be good then we can always trade one out.

Balic is in a very similar situation, so for the price both of them will cost (not much), the potential payout is large.

[buck_nekkid 6,068]

Surplus to needs now, but could be the best get of all time in 2 years if/when

• Pedo retires  (near certainty)
• Hogan departs (Freo seem to already be working at this)
• Weids doesn’t come on as hoped. (I think he will, but 50:50 according to many here)

with 2 of these 3 scenarios, it still pays off

with one of these scenarios, it creates competition and pressure for spots, and may expand or change roles - like defender or ruck/forward option.

One of our late second rounders and a used cotton bud should get it done.

[SFebes 4,884]

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

Surplus to needs now, but could be the best get of all time in 2 years if/when

• Pedo retires  (near certainty)
• Hogan departs (Freo seem to already be working at this)
• Weids doesn’t come on as hoped. (I think he will, but 50:50 according to many here)

with 2 of these 3 scenarios, it still pays off

with one of these scenarios, it creates competition and pressure for spots, and may expand or change roles - like defender or ruck/forward option.

One of our late second rounders and a used cotton bud should get it done.

This is why I say its a big yes. Puts pressure on Weid for a spot and one injury out of that lot and we are in a bit of strife.

[old dee 24,005]

19 hours ago, PaulRB said:

he's surplus to our needs and his recruitment would be a slap to Wiedeman, pass for mine.

And?

[old dee 24,005]

11 hours ago, Redleg said:

From an Age Article by Caro.

The Brisbane view was that Richmond wooed Schache and in doing so contributed to his poor form and reduced commitment. This version also dictates that former Lions coach Justin Leppitsch stayed in touch with the player once he rejoined the Tigers as an assistant coach. Further there was an allegation that Richmond subsequently lowered Schache's trade stocks by passing on stories alluding to his fragility involving a first-hand experience after the Tigers interviewed him.

Richmond, in turn, angrily deny all of the above. The Tigers claim that while they interviewed Schache they lost serious interest in the player as an immediate prospect once he re-signed with the Lions. When Schache was offered around again, say the Tigers, their situation had changed. Nor were they prepared to consider the estimated minimum price tag, which, in a best-case scenario, would involve something with a three in front of it.

Richmond say Brisbane have only themselves to blame. That the club failed to adequately care for Schache's welfare in his first season and did not put enough thought into his living circumstances. Even the Lions would privately admit Schache was physically exhausted at the end of 2016 and he should have been managed more conservatively in a playing sense. Still back in year one he showed signs of being the dominant forward his No.2 draft placing suggested he would become.

 

This Article suggests misinformation from the Tigers has put other clubs off. Jonathan Brown sees a big future in the kid. Caro suggests that he could be traded for a pick in the 30's. To me that is a cheap gamble. I would take it and if it doesn't work move on. We are losing Watts and Pedo will be gone a year later. Weid might not make it and Jesse might leave in a year or two. He would be great insurance and could turn into a top 22 player anyway. It will be fascinating to see how this plays out and how he ends up in a few years.

You have my vote Mr. Leg.

[Redleg 41,963]

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

You have my vote Mr. Leg.

Should I call Josh, Todd or Jason?

[old dee 24,005]

Just now, Redleg said:

Should I call Josh, Todd or Jason?

All of them

[Dr. Gonzo 24,451]

On 13/10/2017 at 12:04 AM, Demon Disciple said:

True, but the Cats under these rules are required to have at least one 1st round pick this year, to which they don't have one at the moment.

The drafting rules brought in a few years ago will not be enforced for a few years yet methinks.

The AFL last year when questioned about the Cats said "Oh, that doesn't start until 2019"

 

[Dr. Gonzo 24,451]

3 hours ago, old dee said:

And?

Agreed, Weideman could be delisted after his next contract (next year?) Not saying he doesn't have time on his side but he's shown nothing to date to suggest he'll make it at the top level.

[Wilson7 2,689]

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Agreed, Weideman could be delisted after his next contract (next year?) Not saying he doesn't have time on his side but he's shown nothing to date to suggest he'll make it at the top level.

The Weed is contracted for 2 more years Gonz. Keeping my fingers crossed he will come good.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,451]

36 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

The Weed is contracted for 2 more years Gonz. Keeping my fingers crossed he will come good.

Agreed, I'm hoping the same. He's showed glimpses but he's just not a sure bet at this stage.

[dazzledavey36 55,912]

I had a bit to do with him at the bushies.. He is a very very talented prospect, but he's struggled living up there due to leaving his mother all of a sudden who's brought him up single handedly after the sad passing of his father. He was extremely home sick last year..

Probably the closest thing next to a Tom Lynch. Has that huge reach of arms that when given the opportunity and his confidence is up, he will just clunk em all day!

Also note that him and Clayton OLIVER are best friends and have been since primary school. I know it's not a factor but if he did come to the Dees then I personally think we'll see the best of him!

Trained at the Dees as part of his AIS program too, so Jason Taylor will already have a good insight into him.

[Redleg 41,963]

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I had a bit to do with him at the bushies.. He is a very very talented prospect, but he's struggled living up there due to leaving his mother all of a sudden who's brought him up single handedly after the sad passing of his father. He was extremely home sick last year..

Probably the closest thing next to a Tom Lynch. Has that huge reach of arms that when given the opportunity and his confidence is up, he will just clunk em all day!

Also note that him and Clayton OLIVER are best friends and have been since primary school. I know it's not a factor but if he did come to the Dees then I personally think we'll see the best of him!

Trained at the Dees as part of his AIS program too, so Jason Taylor will already have a good insight into him.

I hope Clayton has a chat to Jason. The last good mate we missed was Ollie.

[Demon Disciple 12,453]

9 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I hope Clayton has a chat to Jason. The last good mate we missed was Ollie.

Clarrie should have a chat to try and bring him over too!

[Redleg 41,963]

3 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Clarrie should have a chat to try and bring him over too!

Huh, Clayton is Clarrie.

[Demon Disciple 12,453]

29 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Huh, Clayton is Clarrie.

Yeah i know, he should have a chat to Wines and try and bring him over as well.

[What 18,810]

A huge talent going cheap. Why haven't we traded for him yet?

I wonder if he can be developed as a key back.,..  playing alongside Lever.  I think he has the skill set, as opposed to Weideman who couldn't play as a backman.

[Sydee 4,637]

Looks too slow on what I've seen (which I admit isn't that much) - can kick and ok marking the ball

Speed is the big question mark I think 

[dazzledavey36 55,912]

1 minute ago, Sydee said:

Looks too slow on what I've seen (which I admit isn't that much) - can kick and ok marking the ball

Speed is the big question mark I think 

Name me one power forward with decent speed? I can think of Buddy Franklin and thats where it stops..

Speed is a non issue for forwards. Just ask Josh Kennedy.

[Adam The God 30,617]

18 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Name me one power forward with decent speed? I can think of Buddy Franklin and thats where it stops..

Speed is a non issue for forwards. Just ask Josh Kennedy.

Endurance is king. 

[Little Goffy 14,760]

"Clubs fear Schache could be the next Watts"

Well, I'm out. Couldn't stand the heartburn.

[Supreme_Demon 3,935]

I think Josh Schache is still a MASSIVE talent and worth the risk!

Have a look at his highlights reel from back in 2015.

I really hope the Demons do offer the Lions a fair trade to get him to our club.

Being good friends with Clayton Oliver may help too?

The more talented forwards that the Demons have the better!

It may be showing my age but I remember the forward line of 1998 with Garry Lyon, David Schwarz and David Neitz as well as Jeff Farmer.

Imagine the 2018 forward line of Jesse Hogan, Sam Weideman and Josh Schache as well as Jeff Garlett? 

Pretty impressive in my opinion!

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I had a bit to do with him at the bushies.. He is a very very talented prospect, but he's struggled living up there due to leaving his mother all of a sudden who's brought him up single handedly after the sad passing of his father. He was extremely home sick last year..

Probably the closest thing next to a Tom Lynch. Has that huge reach of arms that when given the opportunity and his confidence is up, he will just clunk em all day!

Also note that him and Clayton OLIVER are best friends and have been since primary school. I know it's not a factor but if he did come to the Dees then I personally think we'll see the best of him!

Trained at the Dees as part of his AIS program too, so Jason Taylor will already have a good insight into him.

Well I’m sold, sign him up! 

[Ethan Tremblay 31,243]

1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

"Clubs fear Schache could be the next Watts"

Well, I'm out. Couldn't stand the heartburn.

Annnnnd I’m out.

[buck_nekkid 6,068]

Replace Watts with Watts.  Love it, do the deal!