The Petracca v McCartin debate reprised

[DV8 2,271]

I think,  I recall him being quick off the mark,  on occasion.?     But so far in between, I'm not sure anymore.

I feel like he could be quick off the mark,  and I've seen him hit targets by hand in traffic...   again, long time so see.

 

I reckon,  if we got him really fit,  and play him in the middle,  he could be a strong inside player.  But,  he's really got to work his Butt off.

He could be talented inside like Oli is winning inside ball and giving it off

 

With that,  IF he could do this,  and grow his confidence from that spot.  He should then grow his all round game, from there.

Currently he is too slow from half-forward,  getting beaten,  and is suffering imv,  from not being effective.

[CHF 2,602]

I find him a frustrating player to watch. To  my mind he has a lot of talent but I get the feeling he is a player that waits for the ball to come to him rather than be a player that goes to the ball.

It may be that he does not read the play that well and is a pace away at the ball or it might be aerobic fitness.

 

 

[Earl Hood 5,789]

He should be part of our outside run and class to compliment the inside dominance of Oliver, Brayshaw and Viney. For some reason we haven’t developed a game plan to make this possible. Instead we have Jones and Lewis playing wing, tried then dropped Stretch after one game? I think Tracc should start on the wing, go into the midfield for short bursts. Being on the wing means he can drift forward as well. 

Who knows if this will work, we know the kid has plenty of talent but how do we give him the best chance to realise it? 

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, CHF said:

I find him a frustrating player to watch. To  my mind he has a lot of talent but I get the feeling he is a player that waits for the ball to come to him rather than be a player that goes to the ball.

It may be that he does not read the play that well and is a pace away at the ball or it might be aerobic fitness.

 

 

He is our Rene Kink,  at this moment in time.

Kinks issues were around,  discipline,  dedication,  and endurance of determination,  IMO.

Tracca, a similar personal culture ?

[spirit of norm smith 12,914]

It’s still Petracca and daylight McCartin.  Saints still regretting their call.  

[Engorged Onion 9,276]

11 hours ago, DV8 said:

He is our Rene Kink,  at this moment in time.

Kinks issues were around,  discipline,  dedication,  and endurance of determination,  IMO.

Tracca, a similar personal culture ?

Only if you want it to fit a particular narrative @DV8

[Engorged Onion 9,276]

The conversations on here blow my mind sometimes, as they're always versions about where someone got picked - and everyone elses expectations of how they should be playing due to where they got picked. As though those outside the club and the rest of AFL world, know what level 'said player' 'should' be at - based purely on where their own personal expectations of what progression or potential looks like... its a bit of laugh really...

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,408]

20 hours ago, Melbourne_Curse said:

Even though Petracca is not dominating.. He is still that far ahead of FatCartin in every aspect. Check the the stats and just look at the output so far. Petracca did his ACL and is still that far ahead of old Head Knock Mattress Guts!!

Just a couple of weeks ago the club took a stand against online trolling. I reckon we Demonlanders should respect what the club and players were trying to do and improve our game. The two disrespectful names/descriptions used here are just two examples. I'm not a great fan of allegedly funny nicknames for clubs such as Essendope, either. But at least that's not targetting an individual. Names like these are just pathetic, and I'd like to see Demonland be more respectful of all who contribute to the wonderful game of AFL.

 

[Melbourne_Curse 7]

4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Just a couple of weeks ago the club took a stand against online trolling. I reckon we Demonlanders should respect what the club and players were trying to do and improve our game. The two disrespectful names/descriptions used here are just two examples. I'm not a great fan of allegedly funny nicknames for clubs such as Essendope, either. But at least that's not targetting an individual. Names like these are just pathetic, and I'd like to see Demonland be more respectful of all who contribute to the wonderful game of AFL.

 

Lighten up. Seems like you don't have much to do with your username!

[Engorged Onion 9,276]

4 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Just a couple of weeks ago the club took a stand against online trolling. I reckon we Demonlanders should respect what the club and players were trying to do and improve our game. The two disrespectful names/descriptions used here are just two examples. I'm not a great fan of allegedly funny nicknames for clubs such as Essendope, either. But at least that's not targetting an individual. Names like these are just pathetic, and I'd like to see Demonland be more respectful of all who contribute to the wonderful game of AFL.

 

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[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,408]

19 hours ago, Melbourne_Curse said:

Lighten up. Seems like you don't have much to do with your username!

The "just joking" defence doesn't work in a Court of law and it doesn't wash with me either. I recommend that instead of suggesting I lighten up, you consider growing up.

And I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but my username derives from Dante's Divine Comedy which takes you through hell and purgatory before you get to heaven. Appropriate for a Melbourne supporter, I would have thought.

I now recommend we both move on.

[Melbourne_Curse 7]

8 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The "just joking" defence doesn't work in a Court of law and it doesn't wash with me either. I recommend that instead of suggesting I lighten up, you consider growing up.

And I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but my username derives from Dante's Divine Comedy which takes you through hell and purgatory before you get to heaven. Appropriate for a Melbourne supporter, I would have thought.

I now recommend we both move on.

Buddy. You are on a football forum. Lighten up!

[Ethan Tremblay 28,391]

Considering McCartin may not ever get a game again and hasn’t even had a singular good game, why’s this even a discussion? 

[Engorged Onion 9,276]

15 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Considering McCartin may not ever get a game again and hasn’t even had a singular good game, why’s this even a discussion? 

very few things to bask in the glory of currently @Ethan Tremblay - we all love a bit of schadenfreude from time to time.

[Dee Dee 1,043]

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Considering McCartin may not ever get a game again and hasn’t even had a singular good game, why’s this even a discussion? 

His game against us last year was probably his best (not great but serviceable 2 goals). Harrison Petty’s debut!

[The Great Pretender 430]

Debate over.

[Demon trucker 1,769]

11 minutes ago, The Great Pretender said:

Debate over.

The debate was over 4 years ago

[Cracker Nackers 115]

I love St Kilda forever!!!!!

[chook fowler 18,241]

Meaningless gloating  and disrespectful to Paddy McCartin who, through no fault of his own, couldn’t fulfill his potential. 

Edited October 16, 2021 by chook fowler

[Fritta and Turner 3,664]

3 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Meaningless gloating  and disrespectful to Tom McCartin who, through no fault of his own, couldn’t fulfill his potential. 

Even more disrespectful if you confuse Patrick with his brother Tom?  Agree on the gloating though....

[chook fowler 18,241]

6 minutes ago, Jontee said:

Even more disrespectful if you confuse Patrick with his brother Tom?  Agree on the gloating though....

Oops 

[Ethan Tremblay 28,391]

You win some you lose some. 

Edited October 16, 2021 by Ethan Tremblay

[spirit of norm smith 12,914]

On 5/1/2019 at 8:15 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

It’s still Petracca and daylight McCartin.  Saints still regretting their call.  

I’m updating this post. 
 

It’s still Petracca and then the galaxy to McCartin.  Dees getting Petracca was an absolute steal and a blessing.  He needed a star and he has delivered.  Can’t wait to see him continue to become an elite footballer.  One of our MFC very best. 

[Cards13 9,117]

11 hours ago, The Great Pretender said:

Debate over.

Pretty ordinary bump. 

[John Crow Batty 8,255]

Not fair on St Kilda fans of us highjacking their favourite debate.