Jump to content

Clarence Oliver

dazzledavey36
dazzledavey36
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

3 hours ago, rjay said:

Is this a trick question 'Red'?

I think it's pretty obvious who the 18 coaches would select, they like giving him (Oliver) votes and the other 17 coaches for some reason that seems to escape the AA selectors like to tag him. Obviously a waste of time for someone who doesn't do any damage with ball in hand.

Maybe they should watch the games and not just go by the metres gained and handball stat sheet.

MRP a joke.

Umpiring by crowd noise and not vision.

Fixturing done on the basis of dollars and totally unrelated to fairness of a sporting competition.

Rising Star award ignoring Jayden Hunt in 2017 and this week giving an award to a kid with 3 possessions and 3 goals obtained in a thrashing of the opposition.

A record year of football stats for a 2nd year player, placing him in the top few players in the game, yet ignored in a 40 man AA squad.

Rules changed at whim.

 

You know rjay, it is okay for you to suggest that the AA selectors should watch the games, but I actually doubt that they would know how to turn on a Television or find their way to a football ground.

 

 

Edited by Redleg

  • Quote
    • Like 5
     
    6 hours ago, daisycutter said:

    clarrie has done a bradman. he ended up 1 (one) disposal short of a 2017 average of 30 disposals per game

    can we ask for a recount?

    just to clarify.....that was one disposal for the whole year........he ended up with  an average of 29.945454545.......

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    47 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    just to clarify.....that was one disposal for the whole year........he ended up with  an average of 29.945454545.......

    Don't need to. How many times was Clarry penalised from the umpires for what they thought were throws but were actually handballs?

    Maggots keep on screwing us!

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Angry 2
     

    Came 6th in the AFL coaches award. Amazing result. 

    Also voted best young player by the AFL coaches association.

    almost double the amount of votes from second. (Menegola)

    will be a star

  • Quote
    • Like 2
    3 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

    Came 6th in the AFL coaches award. Amazing result. 

    Also voted best young player by the AFL coaches association.

    almost double the amount of votes from second. (Menegola)

    will be a star

    7th in aflca

  • Quote

    Presented with his award as the best young player on AFL 360 tonight. Earned high praise from Richardson the Saints coach. Awarded to players in their first 2 years after making debut. It is also notable that Petracca also figured in this award third.  

  • Quote
    • Like 5
     
    8 minutes ago, Older demon said:

    Presented with his award as the best young player on AFL 360 tonight. Earned high praise from Richardson the Saints coach. Awarded to players in their first 2 years after making debut. It is also notable that Petracca also figured in this award third.  

    Interesting he said that McCartney told him to pick a player as a mentor to help model his professionalism. He chose Billy Stretch.

  • Quote
    • Like 4

    7th in coaches voting, yet not even in the AA squad of 40.

    Should have been in the 22.

    It is really quite disgraceful.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Angry 1

    What were Diesel Williams' stats for meters gained in his Brownlow years? I know they didn't do those stats then.  My memory was when he was in the middle he was a master of the quick, short handball to someone in a better position, more than kicking the ball to a position because he was so often in the centre of a dense maul of players. Clarrie seems to have potentially, a similar set of skills. 

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    Just now, Earl Hood said:

    What were Diesel Williams' stats for meters gained in his Brownlow years? I know they didn't do those stats then.  My memory was when he was in the middle he was a master of the quick, short handball to someone in a better position, more than kicking the ball to a position because he was so often in the centre of a dense maul of players. Clarrie seems to have potentially, a similar set of skills. 

    Clarry actually handballs more often at this piont than Deisel did.  Based on that, I'd say his meters gained would be less than Deisels.  Average total disposals per game stats are similar.

  • Quote

    And while I think of it, sign him up on a Dusty like deal and lock him in for life. Once his team mates work out how to best feed of his lightning ball handling we will improve to the next level and he and Trac will be our marquee players.

    o 

  • Quote

    Well done clarry. Best second season from a demon I have ever seen. 

    No pressure but I assume you'll be a 300 game Brownlow winner and multiple premiership player for us. 

  • Quote
    • Like 3

    Clarry's 2017 might be one of the best seasons ever from a Demon, and we're talking nearly 160 years worth of players.

    And now for everyone's favourite stat.....he only just turned 20.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    2 hours ago, Older demon said:

    Presented with his award as the best young player on AFL 360 tonight. Earned high praise from Richardson the Saints coach. Awarded to players in their first 2 years after making debut. It is also notable that Petracca also figured in this award third.  

    Bet Richardson didn't praise Petracca too much though. ;)

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    4 hours ago, Older demon said:

    And while I think of it, sign him up on a Dusty like deal and lock him in for life. Once his team mates work out how to best feed of his lightning ball handling we will improve to the next level and he and Trac will be our marquee players.

    o 

    Yeah sweet . But someone in the deep dark ages must have called it FOOTBALL for a reason !

  • Quote

    Clarry gained 72 Votes, next best 38 and then Petracca on 29 and as the MFC site mentions this puts Clarry up in heady heights of Pendlebury, Selwood, Judd & Fyfe what an absolute beauty is our Clarry. I feel like I am starting to come back to life at least a little...:blink:

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • 7 months later...

    I'm lazy, so can't be bothered looking at stats, but eyeballing Clarry's games, he's clearly and understandably had a lot more attention paid to him... thus I feel he has plateaued with his influence. So, what I am wondering (hoping) is that when Viney comes back it will free him up a bit more...is this an accurate assessment. It reminds me  of Judd, who was surrounded by Cousins and Kerr -  top midfielders who also allowed him to get off the leash.

  • Quote
    • Like 3

    Having improved so much last year it is understandable that he would plateau for a while. 

    But, you make a good point about extra attention.  Its not just Viney missing but also Tyson and Jones not being played much in the middle means Clarrie is the only target.

    In the middle they take some of the load/attention so Clarrie can weave his magic which then allows Salem to add polish on the outside.   Clarrie weaving his magic would also help improve the clearance rate from Max's hit out dominance.   Win, win all round!

    So Viney back in will help Clarrie but in the meantime so will Jones and/or Tyson playing in the middle.

  • Quote
    • Like 2

    I don't worry about Clayton. In the scheme of things, he's due some delayed 'second year blues'. Any downturn from him learning to deal with the extra attention, either due to his performance last year or the absence of other players, is just part of the process.

  • Quote
    • Like 1
    • Thanks 1
     

    Also need to consider the absence of Viney. Without looking up stats as well, I reckon Clarry was a lot more damaging as the 2nd mid.

    I'm very excited to see Viney, Clarry, Brayshaw and Tracc running in the centre all together.

    We just need some outside class to complement them now.

  • Quote
    • Like 1

    Join the conversation

    You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

    Guest
    Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
    Reply to this topic...
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • GAMEDAY: Richmond

      It's Game Day and the Demons return to the MCG to face the Tigers in their annual Blockbuster on ANZAC Eve for the 10th time. The Dees will be desperate to reignite their stuttering 2025 campaign and claim just their second win of the season. Can the Demons dig deep and find that ANZAC Spirit to snatch back to back wins?

        • Like
      • 148 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREVIEW: Richmond

      A few years ago, the Melbourne Football Club produced a documentary about the decade in which it rose from its dystopic purgatory of regular thrashings to the euphoria of a premiership victory. That entire period could have been compressed in a fast motion version of the 2025 season to date as the Demons went from embarrassing basket case to glorious winner in an unexpected victory over the Dockers last Saturday. They transformed in a single week from a team that put in a pedestrian effort of predictably kicking the ball long down the line into attack that made a very ordinary Bombers outfit look like worldbeaters into a slick, fast moving side with urgency and a willingness to handball and create play with shorter kicks and by changing angles to generate an element of chaos that yielded six goals in each of the opening quarters against Freo. 

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • NON-MFC: Round 07

      Round 7 gets underway in iconic fashion with the traditional ANZAC Day blockbuster. The high-flying Magpies will be looking to solidify their spot atop the ladder, while the Bombers are desperate for a win to stay in touch with the top eight. Later that evening, Fremantle will be out to redeem themselves after a disappointing loss to the Demons, facing a hungry Adelaide side with eyes firmly set on breaking into the top four. Saturday serves up a triple-header of footy action. The Lions will be looking to consolidate their Top 2 spot as they head to Marvel Stadium to clash with the Saints. Over in Adelaide, Port Adelaide will be strong favourites at home against a struggling North Melbourne. The day wraps up with a fiery encounter in Canberra, where the Giants and Bulldogs renew their bitter rivalry. Sunday’s schedule kicks off with the Suns aiming to bounce back from their shock defeat to Richmond, taking on the out of form Swans.Then the Blues will be out to claim a major scalp when they battle the Cats at the MCG. The round finishes with a less-than-thrilling affair between Hawthorn and West Coast at Marvel. Who are you tipping and what are the best results for the Demons?

        • Like
      • 8 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • REPORT: Fremantle

      For this year’s Easter Saturday game at the MCG, Simon Goodwin and his Demons wound the clock back a few years to wipe out the horrible memories of last season’s twin thrashings at the hands of the Dockers. And it was about time! Melbourne’s indomitable skipper Max Gawn put in a mammoth performance in shutting out his immediate opponent Sean Darcy in the ruck and around the ground and was a colossus at the end when the game was there to be won or lost. It was won by 16.11.107 to 14.13.97. There was the battery-charged Easter Bunny in Kysaiah Pickett running anyone wearing purple ragged, whether at midfield stoppages or around the big sticks. He finish with a five goal haul.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • CASEY: UWS Giants

      The Casey Demons took on an undefeated UWS Giants outfit at their own home ground on a beautiful autumn day but found themselves completely out of their depth going down by 53 points against a well-drilled and fair superior combination. Despite having 15 AFL listed players at their disposal - far more than in their earlier matches this season - the Demons were never really in the game and suffered their second defeat in a row after their bright start to the season when they drew with the Kangaroos, beat the Suns and matched the Cats for most of the day on their own dung heap at Corio Bay. The Giants were a different proposition altogether. They had a very slight wind advantage in the opening quarter but were too quick off the mark for the Demons, tearing the game apart by the half way mark of the term when they kicked the first five goals with clean and direct football.

      • 0 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Richmond

      The Dees are back at the MCG on Thursday for the annual blockbuster ANZAC Eve game against the Tigers. Can the Demons win back to back games for the first time since Rounds 17 & 18 last season? Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 262 replies
      Demonland
      Demonland
    View All