4 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

how does that help the filth with their f/s's?

Means they may be paying less for them, but that's not really an advantage if they have minimal before it to spend anyway!

I guess they would need to work out if 47 is best spent on Dunn, or one of their F/S.

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I hope you don't give any eulogies.

Ha! that's gold  

Wasn't trying to be mean about it. I liked Dunn and am disappointed that it hasn't worked out but you did mention one game where he stood out and I thought in the interests of balance.......

Maharoney on Trade Radio that it is up to Collingwood on the Dunn trade. He is happy to extend Dunn's career at Collingwood and not too worried about what is coming back as long as they are looking after Dunn. 

23 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

Maharoney on Trade Radio that it is up to Collingwood on the Dunn trade. He is happy to extend Dunn's career at Collingwood and not too worried about what is coming back as long as they are looking after Dunn. 

And paying 100% of his salary!

6 minutes ago, CBDees said:

And paying 100% of his salary!

On the salary issue.... let's be real. I would be happy at anywhere over 60% as I gather it is only for one year.

In the meantime we get to have a real look at a late draft pick a rookie whatever that can possibly make our team in 2018. 60% of Dunn's salary will cover that cost well and truly.

We know Dunn is not going to be part of the future and that he is only there for insurance at best.

Love or hate Hawthorn and for that matter the Dogs of a few years ago but there is little benefit in carrying senior players to the end of their days. (And yes we did not treat Junior well.)

Vast majority of Pies fans on BF have nothing but bad things to say about the Dunn trade. Behind Ben Reid he'll be their best defender by a distance, and Reid has had problems staying on the field.

17 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Dunn is the current player who has had the longest career without playing any finals.

Best of luck to him whether he is with us or, even, if he is with 'them'.

 

 

Going to the filth won't help "finals"

1 hour ago, P-man said:

Vast majority of Pies fans on BF have nothing but bad things to say about the Dunn trade. Behind Ben Reid he'll be their best only defender by a distance, and Reid has had problems staying on the field.

Fixed for accuracy.

2 hours ago, P-man said:

Vast majority of Pies fans on BF have nothing but bad things to say about the Dunn trade. Behind Ben Reid he'll be their best defender by a distance, and Reid has had problems staying on the field.

If the Pies are unhappy, I'm happy

8 hours ago, P-man said:

Vast majority of Pies fans on BF have nothing but bad things to say about the Dunn trade. Behind Ben Reid he'll be their best defender by a distance, and Reid has had problems staying on the field.

They also have old Jezza Howe, who if I recall correctly, after moving to the filth to obtain a clearer role with the team as a perminant forward, was played in a similar swing man, predominantly backman as he was at Melbourne.  Probably played his best footy for the filth as a backman and was probably amongst the filths best in that part of the ground, though is not the key back type you are probably referring to.

Edited October 19, 20168 yr by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

They also have old Jezza Howe, who if I recall correctly, after moving to the filth to obtain a clearer role with the team as a perminant forward, was played in a similar swing man, predominantly backman as he was at Melbourne.  Probably played his best footy for the filth as a backman and was probably amongst the filths best in that part of the ground, though is not the key back type you are probably referring to.

I don't care how well they say he played. When Howe finishes fifth in your best and fairest, all is not well.

I like Dunny and over the years I reckon he's been a bit hard done by, but that doesn't alter the fact that he doesn't play the way we want to play. He doesn't take the game on and is too cautious, perhaps he plays to his limitations, but he's an old style defender in a modern game.

Hopefully he will get a gig elsewhere and play a few more years at the highest level and I'm sure he will always be welcome back to the club after his career is over, the worst case for him would be to spend the next year at Casey.

 

 

Breaking news: 

Casey Scorpions request player not draft pick from the Pies for Lynden Dunn

Ah Jeremy, must miss the good ol' days of beach Bintangs with best mate Bucks in Bali, promised his days in defence were over. 

Cheers to you Lynden. All the best.

Edited October 19, 20168 yr by Moonshadow

3 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

They also have old Jezza Howe, who if I recall correctly, after moving to the filth to obtain a clearer role with the team as a perminant forward, was played in a similar swing man, predominantly backman as he was at Melbourne.  Probably played his best footy for the filth as a backman and was probably amongst the filths best in that part of the ground, though is not the key back type you are probably referring to.

Yeah I had to laugh when he got swung to the backline and everyone was praising it as a genius move! I know he likes to kick goals, and on his day he can be decent at it, but he is better as a defender who can swing forward. His natural leap makes him quite a good intercept mark, as a forward he just doesn't seem to do enough.

Dunn is a good fit for the pies as a temporary defender but they've got serious holes back there.  

I thought that Howe was starting to put it together a bit toward the end of this season, reminded me a bit of Tarrant

7 hours ago, Deeman said:

Breaking news: 

Casey Scorpions request player not draft pick from the Pies for Lynden Dunn

Lynden is the General of the Casey backline and, along with Garland, played a large part of their minor Premiership this year. As such, he had a critical  role in the development of Wagner, O.Mac, Frost, White in addition to those on the Casey list. Unless we get a realistic proposal from Collingwood which benefits MFC, CaseyFC  and Dunn, we should keep Dunn on our list where he currently provides value.

The Magpies don't have much more currency to offer a player coming into the club than we do so I wouldn't be surprised if the deal for Lynden Dunn is a low level future selection e.g a 2017 third round pick. We might then be able to package that selection up with our 2017 second round pick to another club for something in the 2016 second round to get us back in the top 30 of this year's draft. 

I'm assuming that this can somehow be done and that it might suit another club, especially one with academies.

The only other thing we might expect today is a surprise player trade but we seem to have been very quiet on that score. 

1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The Magpies don't have much more currency to offer a player coming into the club than we do so I wouldn't be surprised if the deal for Lynden Dunn is a low level future selection e.g a 2017 third round pick. We might then be able to package that selection up with our 2017 second round pick to another club for something in the 2016 second round to get us back in the top 30 of this year's draft. 

I'm assuming that this can somehow be done and that it might suit another club, especially one with academies.

The only other thing we might expect today is a surprise player trade but we seem to have been very quiet on that score. 

Lol

1 hour ago, CBDees said:

Lynden is the General of the Casey backline and, along with Garland, played a large part of their minor Premiership this year. As such, he had a critical  role in the development of Wagner, O.Mac, Frost, White in addition to those on the Casey list. Unless we get a realistic proposal from Collingwood which benefits MFC, CaseyFC  and Dunn, we should keep Dunn on our list where he currently provides value.

It seems the rose coloured glasses of Dunn have come out. 

I can't see how Dunn had a critical role in the development of Wagner, O.Mac, Frost, White.  They rarely played with Dunn and I suspect the coaches would have teamed them up with other senior players at training etc. to learn from players who showed the behaviours the coaches wanted;  Dunn wasn't one of them.

I hope he enjoys it at the pies and that it is a good move for him.

The sad thing about trading Dunn and delisting Grimes this year is that they're two MFC players who absolutely deserve to be participating in the resurgence of this club that is clearly underway right now.

Yet, for the reasons known to all (i.e. that we now have a well balanced and exciting list), they are the victims of the very resurgence that they each probably spent so many years longing for.

Top clubmen, both of them. Good luck to them.

 

Edited October 19, 20168 yr by Ron Burgundy

34 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

The sad thing about trading Dunn and delisting Grimes this year is that they're two MFC players who absolutely deserve to be participating in the resurgence of this club that is clearly underway right now.

Yet, for the reasons known to all (i.e. that we now have a well balanced and exciting list), they are the victims of the very resurgence that they each probably spent so many years longing for.

Top clubmen, both of them. Good luck to them.

 

Couldn't agree more.

The sentimentist in me half hopes that Dunn doesn't get traded and somehow manages to turn his playing style around and break back into the team for a few games, however the realist in me suggests that is probably a fair stretch.

The other obvious players in the category of Dunn and Grimes in the context of deserving the enjoyment of success after years of demoralising losses that come to mind are  Jones, Jetta, Garland, Trengrove and to an extent Tommy Mac.  That dream is closer to reality for those guys.

On another note, whilst alot has been said of Oscar's development this season, I was very impressed with the way Tommy Mac stepped up and became the new rock and general of our backline.

Edited October 19, 20168 yr by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

Surely Dunn and pick 59 for Pies pick 47.

6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Surely Dunn and pick 59 for Pies pick 47.

Could even push for the 44 they just got for Witts