DOLPHINS OUT OF VFL

[rumpole 521]

Very sad for the people of Frankston and the Mornington Peninsula region not to have a senior footy club representing them. Poor for the VFL to stick the knife in - but I don't think the powers that be give a fig about local footy. 

[mdemon 266]

As a player sponsor for the past 3 years, it has been rather difficult to watch the slow-motion train wreck that the Dolphins' performances have offered over that time - (shades of following the Dee's in 2012 - 2014).

Just seems to be ludicrous that a region as populous and diverse as the Mornington Peninsula will not have a representative team in the VFL in 2017 and beyond.

[Biffen 12,944]

8 hours ago, mdemon said:

As a player sponsor for the past 3 years, it has been rather difficult to watch the slow-motion train wreck that the Dolphins' performances have offered over that time - (shades of following the Dee's in 2012 - 2014).

Just seems to be ludicrous that a region as populous and diverse as the Mornington Peninsula will not have a representative team in the VFL in 2017 and beyond.

Throw your support behind the Casey Scorpions.

Hopefully they will be renamed the Melbourne Reserves when sanity prevails and we drop the pretence of giving a toss about their proud 12 year history as Casey.

 

[MadAsHell 4,212]

31 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Throw your support behind the Casey Scorpions.

Hopefully they will be renamed the Melbourne Reserves when sanity prevails and we drop the pretence of giving a toss about their proud 12 103 year history as Casey the Scorpions.

 

Fixed.

[Emerald 1,744]

Damn,I will miss the abuse the Frankston supporters give the opposition and umpires.

[Whispering_Jack 30,260]

I normally don't do this but -

https://www.change.org/p/afl-for-the-afl-to-reverse-their-decision-to-terminate-the-frankston-dolphins-vfl-license?recruiter=427014826&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

[MadAsHell 4,212]

11 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I normally don't do this but -

https://www.change.org/p/afl-for-the-afl-to-reverse-their-decision-to-terminate-the-frankston-dolphins-vfl-license?recruiter=427014826&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

Thanks for sharing WJ.

Just signed and chipped in a little also.

[junk 342]

The Victorian VFL sides should stand alone. When their senior sides play interstate sides those Victorian team should play each other. Their should play 22 rounds.The ex-affliated sides plus other teams to make up a min.10 team comp. could be considered as the thirds. 

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

13 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I normally don't do this but -

https://www.change.org/p/afl-for-the-afl-to-reverse-their-decision-to-terminate-the-frankston-dolphins-vfl-license?recruiter=427014826&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

Well done WJ. As a Frankston boy I have signed up. Let's hope quite a few from our forum will sign too. Come on guys and girls !

[jules7 792]

I have also signed the petition, not good for Frankston and the Mornington Peninsula 

[Crystal Dees 372]

Petition signed.

Good luck Dolphins 

[dazzledavey36 55,052]

Any team that gets the doors shut on them is very sad.

It's happening too often up here in the country too.

[Nasher 33,616]

On 29 September 2016 at 8:39 AM, AngryAtCasey said:

Thanks for sharing WJ.

Just signed and chipped in a little also.

What's the future for the club if the VFL did not revoke its licence? It has been hopelessly uncompetitive for years now. If I was at VFL HQ I'd want to be presented with a vision and a solid plan on how it was going to be achieved before reconsidering. A petition won't cut it.

I admire the passion in this thread, but I can't see how it does either the club or the VFL, which is the state's second tier competition, to have an easybeat side parked on the bottom of the ladder. If the club is still viable, let it register in a lower competition where it might have some hope of success. If not, let nature run its course.

[MadAsHell 4,212]

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

What's the future for the club if the VFL did not revoke its licence? It has been hopelessly uncompetitive for years now. If I was at VFL HQ I'd want to be presented with a vision and a solid plan on how it was going to be achieved before reconsidering. A petition won't cut it.

I admire the passion in this thread, but I can't see how it does either the club or the VFL, which is the state's second tier competition, to have an easybeat side parked on the bottom of the ladder. If the club is still viable, let it register in a lower competition where it might have some hope of success. If not, let nature run its course.

Your not wrong Nasher, however not all of the Dolphins problems are of their own accord. Things started to go downhill when the old grandstand burnt down because of squatters that were living underneath it.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/fire-destroys-historic-grandstand/2008/02/13/1202760336572.html

The Dolphins were then badly let down by a combination of Frankston City Council, St Kilda FC, the AFL and State Government who couldn't find a way to raise the necessary 5 million dollars to allow St Kilda to build their new facilities at the site and in the end St Kilda moved to Seaford instead, and we all know how that worked out.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/saints-move-to-seaford/story-e6frf9if-1111117508958

Before the fire the Dolphins were regular finals competitors and it's no coincidence that since then the wheels at Frankston have fallen off due to debt and lack of talent/resources.

What's the solution/plan going forward? I'm not sure? One thing that's always disappointed me over the years is that you never see any of the good Frankston/Mornington Peninsula players go back and spend a season or two representing Frankston in their premier sporting team. Think of some players over just the last 10 years like Jeff White, Travis Johnstone, Paul Johnson, the Lonie twins, Jarred Moore etc. Now these players are rightly entitled to do what they like post their AFL career. But it's a shame when you here of some playing in the EFL or for Williamstown/Port Melbourne in the VFL, but never the Dolphins.

I'd love to maybe see something where the Frankston City Council in partnership with the Mornington Shire can pay maybe up to half a dozen recently retired or delisted AFL players from that area up to 75K a year for a maximum of 2 years to play for the Dolphins and act as an ambassador for Frankston & the Mornington peninsula region. That would obviously include appearances at certain events in the area such as Sandcastle exhibition the Guitar festival etc.

I can honestly say after 13 years in the public service  (I don't and never have worked at either of the councils mentioned) that there are plenty of jobs/positions created in the public service for around that pay scale (often higher) that contribute very little if not nothing as far as benefit to the community goes. Often they're positions for the sake of having them.

And having spent the majority of my first 25 years in Frankston, parking is that expensive there, thatt 75K x6 a year should be small change for the council to be able to make up.

So add half a dozen recently retired/delisted AFL players from the Frankston/Mornington region into their squad and obviously their competitiveness should improve as well as crowds and the bottom line. The councils should get a benefit from it also.

That's the type of plan I think they should embark on anyway.

Edited October 1, 2016 by AngryAtCasey

[The Oracle 130]

Good luck to them:-

Frankston Dolphins adopt motto ‘keep your feet’ as club fights to rejoin state

Edited October 7, 2016 by The Oracle

[Lord Ivanhoe 311]

https://www.change.org/p/afl-for-the-afl-to-reverse-their-decision-to-terminate-the-frankston-dolphins-vfl-license

[The Chazz 4,077]

On 27 September 2016 at 5:43 PM, DeeSpencer said:

The question is how much money do you need to pump in when the team only wins 1 or 2 games per season.

If they do save the club I think they'd need to not only give them money to survive but also some form of business opportunity (ie pokies) so they can make money long term to pay enough salary to keep strong VFL players like Port Melbourne and Williamstown do.

So if they have to give them pokies to save a community club that's not a win.

Maybe the local council could run the club and delegate to the club a bunch of facilities to manage like how Richmond are getting in to community facility management. 

Certainly they need more than just cash. A few AFL players over the last decade isn't really enough to keep the club alive if it never wins.

Pokies aren't helping North Ballarat's VFL team from a financial point of view.

[Return to Glory 8,443]

On ‎27‎/‎09‎/‎2016 at 5:14 PM, old dee said:

No TV money in Frankston RtG so the AFL have little interest.

Frankston is expendable 

The AFL I suspect see supporters in that region as rusted on...so why bother. 

It's short sighted and disappointing.

[dino rover 714]

The mt eliza demons I think

Not the peninsula pirates

[Whispering_Jack 30,260]

Great news for the Frankston/Mornington Peninsula community.

The club is out of hock (at least no longer in administration) and back in control of the Board. 

It's now up to the community to rally around the club and they're off and running - Frankston Dolphins open to public for series of community events.

Good luck to the Dolphins.

[DEE fence 5,029]

Grew up on the Peninsula, but have to say always had a set against the Frankston VFA side. Would prefer Mornington kicked on.

[DEE fence 5,029]

On 23/11/2016 at 9:27 AM, dino rover said:

The mt eliza demons I think

Not the peninsula pirates

What is wrong with PSOB Pirates???

[dino rover 714]

6 hours ago, DaisyDeeciple said:

What is wrong with PSOB Pirates???

Nothing indeed I am a former b and f there!

Played for the mounties and mornington as well

You?