FA & Trade Whispers

[daisycutter 28,549]

45 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

What does that make Goldy then?

professional taster

[Dwight Schrute 16,781]

1 minute ago, Deecisive said:

maybe we can do a swap on 19 with someone for a couple of other picks one that we can then trade to meet Essendons requirements and still improve our position in another draft position.

19&47 - Hawks for 23 and 33?

[Sydney Pennski 269]

16 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Wow huge news!!!

 

Not sure how we are meant to get hibbard if this plays out.. Id hate for us to trade 19 for him and I doubt the bummers will take our mid 30s pick we get back from brissy. And by trading our 17 first round I dont beleive we can trade our 17 second as well?

Perhaps the deal with Essendon might involve us trading a player? Hasn't AVB's name come up in whispers?

[Redleg 37,612]

23 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

If we somehow land Hibberd, Lewis and Rockliff we should be aiming for the top 4 next season.

Will get the first 2 very much doubt we will have the currency to get Rockliff.

As someone suggested, 2nd rounder, Dunn and VDB or what he is traded for.

[cooko 124]

That might be why we are trying to trade our 2017 2nd rounder for Hibberd. Then we can keep pick 19 and 30 for this years draft along with those 3 players! Dream result

[Redleg 37,612]

I love trade week.

[whatwhat say what 18,977]

Adding Hibberd, Lewis and Rockliff for the equivalent of two second round picks, a future first round and a fourth round pick plus a depth defender in Dunn would be a massive signal of intent that we are not just shooting to make finals in 2017 but to go deep into them.

 

Bring it on.

[DV8 2,271]

31 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

If we somehow land Hibberd, Lewis and Rockliff we should be aiming for the top 4 next season.

Will get the first 2 very much doubt we will have the currency to get Rockliff.

Lets not put the cart before the horse, & get ahead of ourselves,  Top 4 should be out of our thinking at this stage.

We should be aiming for a very good preseason.  And only hoping we make the finals at this stage.

 

Looking too far forward is fraught with dangers for young players.

 

32 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Absolute can not believe the news I've got this morning. 

Brisbane and Melbourne have agreed on handshake that rockliff will come to Melbourne for Dunn. We will give our first rounder for next year to Brisbane (which we bank on being 9-13) for Brisbane priority pick this year (19) as well as turning our second round pick (29) into a pick in mid 30s, which Brisbane are trying to get their hands on before end of trade week. 

This is also delaying the Hibberd deal. 

Brisbane will pay a portion of the salary. The only things holding this deal up are Brisbane not having a mid 30s pick yet, and rockliff not having results from a medical back yet. 

Melbourne in- rockliff, end of round 1 pick (19); mid 30s pick.

Out, Dunn, 2017 Rd 1 pick (9-13) 2016 Rd 2 pick) 29

Source- both the new Brisbane football operations manager; and my uncle, fitzroy great, Brisbane scout and father of current afl captain. Oh and for any sceptics which I'm sure there are, this is out of the mouth of both. 

 

Ah gee. I was hoping almost this exact scenario would occur all this morning.  To use next years pick in a deal like this.  But maybe woulkd be happier with the lions 2017 2nd Rnd pick back instead of 2016 30's pick  this year.

Please could we change the 2016 mid 30s pick,,, to the Lions 2nd Rnd pick from 2017 ?

[SFebes 4,692]

1 minute ago, DemonAndrew said:

Adding Hibberd, Lewis and Rockliff for the equivalent of two second round picks, a future first round and a fourth round pick plus a depth defender in Dunn would be a massive signal of intent that we are not just shooting to make finals in 2017 but to go deep into them.

 

Bring it on.

Exactly my first thought also, if this is true then The Club is gearing up to something serious!

[What 18,810]

38 minutes ago, Generation dee said:

Absolute can not believe the news I've got this morning. 

Brisbane and Melbourne have agreed on handshake that rockliff will come to Melbourne for Dunn. We will give our first rounder for next year to Brisbane (which we bank on being 9-13) for Brisbane priority pick this year (19) as well as turning our second round pick (29) into a pick in mid 30s, which Brisbane are trying to get their hands on before end of trade week. 

This is also delaying the Hibberd deal. 

Brisbane will pay a portion of the salary. The only things holding this deal up are Brisbane not having a mid 30s pick yet, and rockliff not having results from a medical back yet. 

Melbourne in- rockliff, end of round 1 pick (19); mid 30s pick.

Out, Dunn, 2017 Rd 1 pick (9-13) 2016 Rd 2 pick) 29

Source- both the new Brisbane football operations manager; and my uncle, fitzroy great, Brisbane scout and father of current afl captain. Oh and for any sceptics which I'm sure there are, this is out of the mouth of both. 

 

dear god...  if this is true i will collapse.  I hope your sources are legit and youre not yanking our chains

[1964nowMORE 448]

If we get Lewis, Rockliff and Hibberd and Grimes, M Jones, Dunn depart it would be an unbelievable trade period and once again would be with no leaking from the Club.

this occurs I honestly couldn't care if we only finish with picks above 40-50 this year, even next. It's classic successful team trading, win now, deal with the future then. And when the future comes round, do it well again because your successful.

We would become odds on for finals, and players like VDB, Wagner, Kent or Salem may find getting a game much harder.

seems low risk for huge reward

[DV8 2,271]

34 minutes ago, Abe said:

So do we then pass on 19 for Hibbered and hope to get an upgrade on our third round pick?

Nope, play hard ball, & stay the course with our 2017 2nd Rnd Pick for Hibberd.  Hibberd will be a Dee.  

 

Have balls Dees.

[Clintosaurus 6,440]

If we got pick 19 would the thought of trading up via something with GWS be worth considering?

[DemonOX 8,530]

15 minutes ago, Redleg said:

I love trade week.

The amount of times I have gone back and forth between this thread and the Lewis thread is making me dizzy. 

Make it stop!!

[Generation dee 1,336]

1 minute ago, DV8 said:

Lets not put the cart before the horse, & get ahead of ourselves,  Top 4 should be out of our thinking at this stage.

We should be aiming for a very good preseason.  And only hoping we make the finals at this stage.

 

Looking too far forward is fraught with dangers for young players.

 

Ah gee. I was hoping almost this exact scenario would occur all this morning.  To use next years pick in a deal like this.  But maybe woulkd be happier with the lions 2017 2nd Rnd pick back instead of 2016 30's pick  this year.

Please could we change the 2016 mid 30s pick,,, to the Lions 2nd Rnd pick from 2017 ?

I guess that would work too, but probably a bit high. Unless it was plan b for Brisbane not getting the mid 30s pick. Anything else and I'd only be speculating, that's just what I my news was. For what it's worth, I tried contacting my moderately reliable demon sources, and they either know nothing or are keeping very quiet on it.

[Generation dee 1,336]

9 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

dear god...  if this is true i will collapse.  I hope your sources are legit and youre not yanking our chains

Not my style mate. Just lucky to have a few contacts and don't want fellow dee tragics missing out on what I hear.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Well... Looks like trade weeks heating the [censored] up now! What a time to be alive! 

[DemonLad5 1,640]

I don't really believe it. And I wouldn't be that excited by it. Rockliff is an average players IMO. And I've wanted to keep our. 2017 1st because - A - next years draft is STACKED. And B - We need picks to land a big fish next year. Eg. Fyfe, Martin, Heeney. Rockliff can't kick, can't go forward and has a bad attitude 

[deelete my account 1,194]

1 minute ago, DemonLad5 said:

I don't really believe it. And I wouldn't be that excited by it. Rockliff is an average players IMO. And I've wanted to keep our. 2017 1st because - A - next years draft is STACKED. And B - We need picks to land a big fish next year. Eg. Fyfe, Martin, Heeney. Rockliff can't kick, can't go forward and has a bad attitude 

One of those players might nominate us if we make the top 4 with Rockliff, Lewis & Hibberd having an immediate impact.

Edited October 15, 2016 by DominatrixTyson

[What 18,810]

Just now, Jesse Christ said:

Well... Looks like trade weeks heating the [censored] up now! What a time to be alive! 

Just two days ago some people were complaining that Mahoney was doing nothing. Same thing happens every trade period.

Never underestimate Sir Mahoney.

[McQueen 17,863]

I'm not one to wish my life away but if all this comes off I just want the 2017 season to hurry the feck up.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Pretty bizarre trade period if we land Hibberd, Rockliff and Lewis.

I'm not sure what to make of it actually. 

Interesting also that there has been no mention anywhere of us being interested in any backup for Gawn which imo is our most pressing need.

 

[Dwight Schrute 16,781]

1 minute ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Pretty bizarre trade period if we land Hibberd, Rockliff and Lewis.

I'm not sure what to make of it actually. 

Interesting also that there has been no mention anywhere of us being interested in any backup for Gawn which imo is our most pressing need.

 

We're looking around and have a few cheap options in mind, Goodwin is keen to have three genuine ruckman who can go to AFL level at any time, Gawn and Spencer and one more as either a DFA or late pick in the draft

 

[McQueen 17,863]

1 minute ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Pretty bizarre trade period if we land Hibberd, Rockliff and Lewis.

I'm not sure what to make of it actually. 

Interesting also that there has been no mention anywhere of us being interested in any backup for Gawn which imo is our most pressing need.

 

Might be looking for a mature age ruckman I reckon. Maybe jag one from the state leagues with a late pick or rookie draft.

[Deecisive 1,652]

3 minutes ago, DemonLad5 said:

I don't really believe it. And I wouldn't be that excited by it. Rockliff is an average players IMO. And I've wanted to keep our. 2017 1st because - A - next years draft is STACKED. And B - We need picks to land a big fish next year. Eg. Fyfe, Martin, Heeney. Rockliff can't kick, can't go forward and has a bad attitude 

Season	Team	#	Games	G	B	K	H	D	M	T	G	B	K	H	D	M	T
			Totals								Averages (per game)
Career			101	51	43	1413	1280	2693	495	539	0.5	0.4	14.0	12.7	26.7	4.9	5.3
2009	Brisbane Lions	38	1	0	0	3	2	5	3	1	0.0	0.0	3.0	2.0	5.0	3.0	1.0
2010	Brisbane Lions	38	19	4	5	220	214	434	103	64	0.2	0.3	11.6	11.3	22.8	5.4	3.4
2011	Brisbane Lions	38	20	12	10	310	244	554	111	108	0.6	0.5	15.5	12.2	27.7	5.6	5.4
2012	Brisbane Lions	38	22	18	17	280	256	536	87	95	0.8	0.8	12.7	11.6	24.4	4.0	4.3
2013	Brisbane Lions	38	21	7	8	291	284	575	95	108	0.3	0.4	13.9	13.5	27.4	4.5	5.1
2014	Brisbane Lions	38	18	10	3	309	280	589	96	163	0.6	0.2	17.2	15.5	32.7	5.3	9.1

His stats seem to be reasonable will certainly add something to our midfield and potentially forward, he is still relatively young, a new start in a team that can help and support him who knows...

 

Having Hibberd, Rockliff and Lews (if all true) come in with Melksham who has been sitting on the sidelines with a couple of end of draw picks and rookie upgrades should be enough for this year, we need to keep an eye on having some decent picks next year, as any new player we get this year is not likely to be getting a game this year with the current side and our new draftees.