CASEY SCORPIONS v COLLINGWOOD VFL

[martin 727]

2 minutes ago, Samael said:

ead right. The pies play and train on pristine premises but handled the conditions well. Casey were crap today no excuses.

Missing the point entirely.

[beelzebub 22,282]

So Jeffy is the new Jackie ... ?

Or

Some egos need bashing  ?

[Samael 560]

Did I? Please enlighten me oh wise one. 

As far as I am concerned 2 teams played under the same conditions one was okay and the other was putrid. One trains at the ground and would have a greater degree of familiarity with its nuances yet the away team were better in the poor conditions which were nothing like the ground they are familiar with. There are no excuses for the performance served up. 

[martin 727]

Not looking for excuses. Collingwood were much better. Anything is possible in a one off game. Could care less about the result.

At the risk of repeating myself, it's mainly about development, or the lack thereof, on this putrid ground.

Would be much better had we played at Collingwood, lost, and Casey players developing under AFL conditions.

This game was a complete waste of team for all the AFL aligned players. No doubt, for example, Aish was good. He will never get suitable conditions for him like this again in the AFL. Cloke was similarly Ok as everyone came back to his pace. No doubt the Collingwood brains trust will be aware of this.

Feel like I'm wasting my breath.

Yes, If it satisfies you, Collingwood were better on the day although, in the big picture, irrelevant.

[Demon Dynasty 15,940]

8 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

Too many easy marks to the Pie defenders today

Looked like our entire mid field had a big wager on Pendles for "most marks in defensive 50", especially Michie

[Demon Dynasty 15,940]

7 hours ago, Emerald said:

I'm gald I only tuned in for the last 5 minutes,I don't even want to know what I missed.

I would have gladly exchanged your 5 minutes for my 3 quarters Emerald

[Demon Dynasty 15,940]

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

So we played like shlt .. I get it 

Yes, apparently there was a big bog hole out at Casey Bz...and we shat in it

[Satyriconhome 10,010]

6 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

Unbelieveable, everybody was rapt when Jeff signed 2 weeks ago, 2 poor weeks and people are whinging about his contract already, Would have you put a performance based deal infront of him after what he's done in the last couple of seasons, i bet 2 weeks ago you wouldn't have even considered it.

This is Demonland swings more than an outdoor dunny door in the wind     and probably has the same amount of [censored] deposited

[Mach5 4,490]

It's an indictment on Matt Jones' game when he is clearly the leading possession winner, but doesn't rate a mention in the best.

Neal-Bullen not far behind.

Absolute dog days from these 2.

[Samael 560]

9 hours ago, martin said:

Not looking for excuses. Collingwood were much better. Anything is possible in a one off game. Could care less about the result.

At the risk of repeating myself, it's mainly about development, or the lack thereof, on this putrid ground.

Would be much better had we played at Collingwood, lost, and Casey players developing under AFL conditions.

This game was a complete waste of team for all the AFL aligned players. No doubt, for example, Aish was good. He will never get suitable conditions for him like this again in the AFL. Cloke was similarly Ok as everyone came back to his pace. No doubt the Collingwood brains trust will be aware of this.

Feel like I'm wasting my breath.

Yes, If it satisfies you, Collingwood were better on the day although, in the big picture, irrelevant.

Totally agree with you. Casey is not an appropriate ground for an AFL team. We need to dump the relationship and do as the Pies, Dogs etc have done and set up our own, stand alone team. Maybe share Western Oval or Punt road? 

[Demon Dynasty 15,940]

33 minutes ago, Samael said:

Totally agree with youim Casey is not an appropriate ground for an AFL team. We need to dump the relationship and do as the Pies, Dogs etc have done and set up our own, stand alone team. Maybe share Western Oval or Punt road? 

Port Melbourne for mine. Good ground, great (winning) culture/history and have our name In there, use our song and similar colours.

And arguably the best coach In the VFL, who has AFL pedigree and would know the Importance/value of running a similar method/structure and style of play that closely resembles that being run at seniors level.

No brainer for mine. Might be a riot by the old Borough faithful at the mere mention however.

Edited June 12, 2016 by Rusty Nails

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,320]

All I know is I watched a game where two teams played in the same conditions and one smacked the other because they went harder, ran harder, were cleaner and played to the conditions. Matt Jones only player deserving of mention aside from Keilty from Casey who looks a likely type. 

[monoccular 16,380]

12 hours ago, xarronn said:

My comment is only in reference to todays conditions and the influence they had on Casey's performance and skills.

I didn't see the game and haven't been to Casey this year, but regardless, in reference to this game, as far as I can tell both teams played on the same ground and one outplayed the other.

Every team, even good ones, can have a bad day.  Was this Casey's one?

[Gator 16,921]

Matt Jones may play more games for Melbourne this year, but he'll purely be depth in 2017.

It's really disappointing that Brayshaw and Salem have had their seasons nobbled.

[samcantstandya 952]

Don't like how Matt Jones always runs back in2 traffic & gets pinged. He doesn't have awareness of what's around him & lacks footy smarts. If we are to improve as a club we need 2 develop young talent thru the draft $ not hang on 2 Terlich, Jones, Michie etc foot soldiers who have no special talents.

[CBDees 3,162]

1 hour ago, Samael said:

Totally agree with you. Casey is not an appropriate ground for an AFL team. We need to dump the relationship and do as the Pies, Dogs etc have done and set up our own, stand alone team. Maybe share Western Oval or Punt road? 

Or Lexus Centre

Edited June 12, 2016 by CBDees

[jnrmac 19,310]

1 hour ago, Samael said:

Totally agree with you. Casey is not an appropriate ground for an AFL team. We need to dump the relationship and do as the Pies, Dogs etc have done and set up our own, stand alone team. Maybe share Western Oval or Punt road? 

Casey is in the second fastest growing region in the country. On a broader level we need to build our supporter base. Id be pretty sure that's one of the reasons we are out there.

Footy is pretty important but we can't ignore the bigger picture longer term...

[Return to Glory 7,787]

59 minutes ago, samcantstandya said:

Don't like how Matt Jones always runs back in2 traffic & gets pinged. He doesn't have awareness of what's around him & lacks footy smarts. If we are to improve as a club we need 2 develop young talent thru the draft $ not hang on 2 Terlich, Jones, Michie etc foot soldiers who have no special talents.

That was the worst games I've seen Matt Jones play. Started off with the sitter dropped at full forward and for the rest of the game demonstrated the peripheral vision of Raph Clarke

[DeeZone 7,929]

What a turn around beat one of our nemesis sides last week followed by our worst effort to date. Pies aren't that good. Thanks KC and other posters, fortunately at Grand daughters 1st Birthday so missed all but the last 10-15 minutes of play !!! I was shocked by the result and made my anxiety about tomorrow's game five fold, please let us not dish up this type of tripe on Monday!! Go Scorps , Go Dee's!!!

[Whispering_Jack 28,089]

The statistics from yesterday's game:-

Colin Garland 14 disposals 12 kicks 2 handballs 2 marks 3 tackles 55 dream team points

Jeff Garlett 8 disposals 4 kicks 4 handballs 7 tackles 46 dream team points

Jack Grimes 14 disposals 12 kicks 2 handballs 2 marks 9 tackles 82 dream team points

Liam Hulett 1 behind 8 disposals 5 kicks 3 handballs 6 tackles 46 dream team points

Max King 10 disposals 5  kicks 5 handballs 1 mark 6 tackles 10 hit outs 61 dream team points

Matt Jones 27 disposals 15 kicks 12 handballs 3 marks 8 tackles 92 team points

Viv Michie 23 disposals 17 kicks 6 handballs 1 mark 4 tackles 84 dream team points

Alex Neale-Bullen 18 disposals 11 kicks 7 handballs 6 tackles 71 dream team points

Ben Newton 1 goal 17 disposals 9 kicks 8 handballs 7 tackles 2 hit outs 84 dream team points

Cam Pedersen 1 behind 10 disposals 6 kicks 4 handballs 1 mark 7 tackles 6 hit outs 59 dream team points

Jake Spencer 10 disposals 9 kicks 1 handball 2 marks 7 tackles 82 hit outs 142 dream team points

Dean Terlich 9 disposals 5 kicks 4 handballs 1 mark 4 tackles 33 dream team points

Mitch White 1 behind 19 disposals 7 kicks 12  handballs 1 mark 10 tackles 86 dream team points

[Paxi 119]

Jake Spencer 82 hit outs! Is that correct?  Thought he battled really hard all day.

[DemonDave 1,078]

18 hours ago, martin said:

No it doesn't.Can live with a poor centre wicket and a wind. Casey fields is in a rain belt,wind swept and basically a centre wicket for the entire ground. Arguably,if not, the worst ground in the VFL. Most definitely holds back the development of our young players and those attempting to regain form.'Wet' at AFL level is a stratosphere away from what we saw today and unfortunately we seemingly have to accept in the future.

Just as well we didn't have to expose any of our young guns such as Jesse Hogan to a year of playing footy at this ground then. 

[Samael 560]

5 hours ago, CBDees said:

Or Lexus Centre

We would catch some sort of disease there. 

[daisycutter 28,681]

10 minutes ago, Samael said:

We would catch some sort of disease there. 

LOL - a FTD

[Demonland 66,372]

SCRAP by KC from Casey

The game against Collingwood VFL at Casey Fields was without doubt the Casey Scorpions' worst performance for the year. In fact, it was the among the club's worst in VFA/VFL history - a game in which it recorded its lowest ever score of 2.7.19 which is three points less than the 3.4.22 it recorded against North Ballarat in 2004 when it was known as Springvale.

The conditions were not by any means conducive to good football; the ground was heavy under foot, it rained intermittently, the wind swirled around from time to time and it was freezing cold in between the times when the sun peered through the watery clouds. Perfect conditions for a good, old fashioned scrap.

Casey was first into attack but when a kick across the ground presented an easy mark in front of goals to Matt Jones but was dropped, the tone of the day was set. The Magpies pushed the ball forward and recorded two goals in five minutes. The Scorpions took until well into time on (24½ minutes) of the opening quarter to record their first score - a goal to Ben Newton and the game remained pretty much in the balance until well into the third term before the home side eventually capitulated in the face of a four goal final term from the visitors. Casey's second and only other goal for the day came 10 minutes into that quarter and by that time it was a case of too little, too late.

The team was only a shadow of the one that has taken almost all before it this season, despite a preeminent exhibition of ruck work that saw Jake Spencer amass the outstanding number of 82 hit outs. Unfortunately, for Casey this domination did not translate into the advantage that number would normally bring a team. The conditions and the congestion of the close in tight packs and the determination and discipline of the Magpie midfield saw to that.

Both teams struggled with their marking, disposal and ball handling but, as the result suggested, Collingwood was so much better on the day and their defence reigned supreme nullifying Casey's normal marking strength up forward.

Down back, the Scorps' skipper Jack Hutchins continued on his good form and he was assisted by Declan Keilty. Mitch White was steady as usual and Newton had his moments.

The Casey on-ballers who usually produce big numbers were not as effective as usual with their ball use and, as a result, their team rarely opened the game up to the swift free-flowing movement that has been characteristic of their 2016 season to date.

Next week, the team will have to regroup in another place not usually known for hospitable conditions at this time of year - North Ballarat.

Casey Scorpions 1.0.6 1.2.8 1.5.11 2.7.19

Collingwood VFL 2.2.14 3.2.20 4.8.32 8.11.59

Goals

Casey Scorpions Newton T Smith

Collingwood VFL Cloke 2 Aish Collopy Ferguson Gault Knight Smith

Best

Casey Scorpions Keilty Michie Hutchins Garland Spencer White

Collingwood VFL Aish Smith Cloke Oxley Howe Wills

The Development League team sat it out this week due to a bye.

Statistics

Colin Garland 14 disposals 12 kicks 2 handballs 2 marks 3 tackles 55 dream team points
Jeff Garlett 8 disposals 4 kicks 4 handballs 7 tackles 46 dream team points
Jack Grimes 14 disposals 12 kicks 2 handballs 2 marks 9 tackles 82 dream team points
Liam Hulett 1 behind 8 disposals 5 kicks 3 handballs 6 tackles 46 dream team points
Max King 10 disposals 5  kicks 5 handballs 1 mark 6 tackles 10 hit outs 61 dream team points
Matt Jones 27 disposals 15 kicks 12 handballs 3 marks 8 tackles 92 team points
Viv Michie 23 disposals 17 kicks 6 handballs 1 mark 4 tackles 84 dream team points
Alex Neale-Bullen 18 disposals 11 kicks 7 handballs 6 tackles 71 dream team points
Ben Newton 1 goal 17 disposals 9 kicks 8 handballs 7 tackles 2 hit outs 84 dream team points
Cam Pedersen 1 behind 10 disposals 6 kicks 4 handballs 1 mark 7 tackles 6 hit outs 59 dream team points
Jake Spencer 10 disposals 9 kicks 1 handball 2 marks 7 tackles 82 hit outs 142 dream team points
Dean Terlich 9 disposals 5 kicks 4 handballs 1 mark 4 tackles 33 dream team points
Mitch White 1 behind 19 disposals 7 kicks 12  handballs 1 mark 10 tackles 86 dream team points