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9 minutes ago, SaberFang said:

Not half as dedicated as the poor cleaner at the Karingal Hub!

I think the (still innocent until proven guilty) pig would disagree.  But it is no longer here.

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5 hours ago, AngryAtCasey said:

It was a heart stopper and a real grind. But tonight was a great win for Casey against the reigning premiers when at different times it looked like Box Hill may run away with it.

Here's how the players went from my view point;

Christian Salem: Thought he was good without being great. Played as a genuine mid, so was good to see him get that opportunity and he got a fair bit of the ball, although wasn't as clean i would have expected. One really good thing to see though was at the start of the last term when it was a 1 point ball game and in the balance, Salem got the first two clearances of the quarter. Sign of a player who stands up when needed.

Chris Dawes: Kicked 3 and thought he was good. Would have loved to see him take a few more contested grabs, though it wasn't really the night for that. Did a lot of tough bullocking work, chasing and tackling and set a few other goals up. Pedersen picked a bad week to miss ill as i think we may see Dawes back next week.

Jack Trengove: Another solid game for Trenners. The vast majority of his work was done in close where his hands were very good. I'd expect he'll be putting his hand up to play sooner or later.

Sam Frost: I'm just going to say it. He's a defender, and quite a good one at that. P,ayed well tonight i thought. Spoilt really well and on a couple of occasions used his speed to burn off his opponent and set up some rebound from our back line. Would have to be an outside chance to come in next week for a good match up on Westhoff.

Sam Weideman: Like Paul Keating's 'The recession we had to have' this was the game The Weed had to have given how well he's started his debut VFL year. Not the night for tall forwards and he really struggled to get into the game. Kept trying but just didn't happen. Nearly took a nice mark in front of goals late in the match to seal the game, however double grabbed at it and was spoilt. Reckon he'll learn a lot from tonight.

Liam Hulett: Like Weideman, struggled to have a huge influence, but didn't find the going as tough as The Weed. Competed well and was tough at the contest. Was reported in the 2nd term for what was nothing more then a shove and had his free kick for holding the ball reversed (it will get thrown out). Kicked a beautiful snap in the 2nd term, yet missed a sitter in the 3rd, so should of had 2.

Jack Grimes: Thought it was an odd game. Didn't even spot him for a good 20min into the game and barely noticed him. He then seemed to be in everything in the 2nd quarter and i thought was the driving force behind their great play. It was arguably the best quarter i've seen him play. He created a lot of run and used the ball well. He was then solid in the 2nd half i thought so a valuable contributor.

Jake Spencer: I thought he rucked really well while getting no help from tbe umpires for several ruck infringements that were never called. He did a bit around the ground also which was nice to see. His solud form is pleasing given our lack of ruck depth.

Aaron Vandenberg: Was obviously on reduced minutes given it was his first game back. Noticed him involved in a few physical scuffles which we always love to see him in, however i didn't reallly notice him have that big an impact on the game. Will need a few more weeks.

Mitch White: Another good game for Mitch at this level. What stood out for me with White was how clean he seemed to be with possession and his use of the ball off his right foot as well as his left. Did notice on at least 2 occasions he misjudged the flight of the ball in marking contests which could be a concern. Otherwise i thought he was very good.

Joel Smith: For me it was the best game i've seen Joel play. What really stood out was his athleticism and ability to run and jump. Like White i though he was very clean with his possession and he helped create a few goals. We may have found something here. Tall rangy wingman maybe???

Dean Terlich: Credit where it's due, i thought tonight was one of his better games. Defended well, ran well and even used it reasonably well. I only remember one howler which was dropping a mark he should of taken. Don't think it matters however, as pretty sure his papers are stamped.

Max King: Played alright i thought Max. Certainly the best game i've seen him play from a rucking perspective, although like Weideman and Hulett he struggled to have an impact when forward. Kicked a shocker aftwr the siren at 1/4 time that i expected him to nail.

No Dunn or Newton tonight, which suggests Melbourne will likely have a late change tomorrow. A great win by the Scorps tonight though as they now go a game clear on top of the ladder with several players putting their hand up for senior selection.

Scorps probably could have won by more has they not been as wasteful going forward as compared to Box Hill, but any win over the Hawks is a good one.

Any questions, fire away.

Great report on players Angry, it is really appreciated. 

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6 hours ago, bjDee said:

True, but the providers of the meal had feelings.  The cooks had feelings.  And the chicken - that was dedicated.  And the pig - that was committed!

You're carrying on like a pork chop.

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Just some random comments from last night's game. 

Declan Kielty and Ed Morris both played. If you check the teams on the OP, the selected players who did not play for whatever reason have been deleted (this also applies to the DL team where, despite an initial interchange of 13, one player was added late due to named players being injured or going up to the ones).

I think a poster above referred to Kody Wilson - it was probably Angus Scott as Wilson played in the DL. 

Also Mitch King is out for the season with an ACL. Max King is the player who was second ruck (along with Keilty) today.

A larger number of MFC listed players than usual went out of the initial squad to the AFL due to Cam Pedersen's injury and the decision to hold back two emergencies for today's game, leaving 13 MFC players in the squad including AVB who was, as Angry at Casey mentioned, on reduced time. 

It will be interesting how this plays out because Casey has a bye next week which means some players will be missing out on game time for a longish stretch - I would imagine this will also impact on the time AVB will need to return to the senior AFL ranks.

Also - please note it's sometimes difficult when posting on matches to keep up with questions asked by previous posters because you don't always notice everyone's posts. 

So - yes. The Weed played ? (see Angry's excellent summary above).

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4 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Nice to hear Dawes stringing some games together but theres no room for him in the MFC team as he either can not or refuses to ruck.

Reckon if he wants to play seniors he'll have to ruck and i suspect we'll see that next week.

On a side note, i had an egg & bacon roll last night and it was as sensational as always. Helps keep one warm on a night like last night.

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Just my observations on the game

It has been mentioned the Casey forward line didn't really work well last night, Box Hill's defense is very experienced and probably the best in the league.   Spangher, Heatherley, Litherland, Mirra & Whitecross were able to matchup well with our ultra tall forward line.  The younger forwards in Weiderman, Hullet & King got a lesson in what an AFL defense is like to play against, they didn't move enough for each other and didn't separate the Box Hill defenders.  Dawes was easily our best forward for the night with Tim Smith playing a valuable role.

Terlich played a half forward role and I thought he did very well, didn't seem to hesitate with the ball as much and the riskier kicks actually work better when going into f50.  Good work on the coaches in mixing his game up and trying to  get the best out of him, might have a role there in the next few weeks. 

Joel Smith is being managed at the moment but when he is on the field he is exciting, he has very clean hands and his willingness to take the game on is fantastic.   His development from the first practice match of the year has been nothing short of amazing, the only thing holding him back from a monster game is time on the field.

The most exiting part of the day for me was seeing Trengrove starting to get his agility back, made a few cuts in traffic that I haven't see before this year and was able to make space for himself in heavy traffic which is sign that it's starting to come together for him.  Had a quieter second half which may not be enough for a game next week but he seems to be having fun out there and enjoying the contest.

 

 

 

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thanks to all contributors.

Great reports really give a feel for the game  Even the Egg & bacon roll

Good that this game as reported was played with intensity and good note that some of the boys tasted that

Hoping for continued results and reports.   Keep up the good work 

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1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

true red, nothing more embarrassing than when the punsters get on a roll

Must admit I felt a bit browned off. Might have been a bit rasher with my reply. 

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Statistics 
 
Chris Dawes 3 goals 2 behinds 22 disposals 12 kicks 10 handballs 5 marks 1 tackle 90 dream team points
Sam Frost 14 disposals 10 kicks 4 handballs 4 marks 3 tackles 62 dream team points
Jack Grimes 35 disposals 16 kicks 19 handballs 7 marks 11 tackles dream 149 team points
Liam Hulett 1 goal 1 behind 9 disposals 6 kicks 3 handballs 3 marks 1 tackle 41 dream team points
Max King 1 goal 8 disposals 4 kicks 4 handballs 4 marks 2 tackles 14 hit outs 58 dream team points
Christian Salem 28 disposals 20 kicks 8 handballs 7 marks 3 tackles 106 dream team points
Joel Smith 11 disposals 2 kicks 9 handballs 1 marks 4 tackles 43 dream team points
Jake Spencer 1 goal 1 behind 8 disposals 3 kicks 5 handballs 7 tackles 32 hit outs 85 dream team points
Dean Terlich 1 goal 3 behinds 15 disposals 11 kicks 4 handballs 5 marks 5 tackles 82 dream team points
Jack Trengove 30 disposals 11 kicks 19 handballs 3 marks 5 tackles 98 dream team points
Aaron vandenBerg 18 disposals 7 kicks 11 handballs 1 marks 6 tackles 1 hit out 63 dream team points
Sam Weideman 4 disposals 3 kicks 1 handballs 2 marks 11 dream team points
Mitch White 26 disposals 18 kicks 8 handballs 6 marks 4 tackles 103 dream team points
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3 hours ago, bjDee said:

Must admit I felt a bit browned off. Might have been a bit rasher with my reply. 

You are cooking with gas, bjDee ... :)

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Grimes needs to stay in the VFL and improve his work in close. Positive signs, but he is going to need to shift gears IMO. Give him a block of games in the midfield, then rotate him with Vince when he comes in. I see a lot of flaws in Grimes. His awareness, his work in close, delay of hand to foot, broader vision, spatial awareness. He is going to need to improve his game before he moves into our best 22. Good start with 149 team points. Realistically needs to do that - and more - every week in the VFL.

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OUT OF THE BOX by KC from Casey

 

The Casey Scorpions will go into next week's break in top position on the ladder with the best percentage and a game clear of the rest of the pack after a strongly fought 7 point win over the highly fancied Box Hill Hawks at Casey Fields. 

 

Saturday's home game was the third night match of the season for the Casey Scorpions and with conditions perfect for football, the teams produced a cracking match for the ages with the lead changing often during the evening making excitement the order of the evening. 

 

High flying forward Tim Smith celebrated his selection in the VFL representative team to play the SANFL at Adelaide Oval next week with the opening goal of the match. The Scorps maintained the early ascendancy when Chris Dawes goaled at the 10 minute mark. However, from there it was all the Hawks who held a lead of 16 points in the shadows of quarter time until Dawes added another to his tally just before the siren sounded.

 

After the first break, a Box Hill goal restored that 16 point margin in their favour but, as it had done a week ago against Sandringham, Casey then grabbed the momentum and kicked six of the next seven goals to head into the rooms at half time with a 16 point lead of their own. 

 

Conditions were perfect on the night and the Scorpions were winning in the ruck through Jake Spencer who was giving the likes of Jack Grimes, Jack Trengove and Christian Salem an armchair ride. The ascendency continued into the third term when Smith's third goal gave the home team a 24 point lead but the momentum turned again for the last 20 minutes of the quarter and Box Hill booted the next four goals to momentarily draw level. 

 

In a nerve wracking final quarter, the teams traded goals but the Scorpions were able to shut down the Hawks' dangerous forwards and were able to withstand the onslaught with Dawes' third goal in an impressive 22 disposal performance. Grimes had a tremendous game with his 35 touches as did his former co-captain Trengove. Defender Mitch White continued to impress with his strong play. Aside from Tim Smith, Angus Scott was the best of the Casey players wth 27 disposals. James Munro and Paul Pattison also made valuable contributions.

 

Both teams are to be complemented for the high standard of the game. Most judges agreed at the end that it was one out of the box.

 

The Scorpions are well placed for the remainder of the season and will relish the week's rest before fronting up to Port Melbourne in a fortnight's time.

 

Casey Scorpions 3.1.19 9.4.58 10.9.69 12.11.83

 

Box Hill Hawks 4.5.29 6.6.42 10.8.68 11.10.76

 

Goals

 

Casey Scorpions Dawes T Smith 3 Glen Hulett Max King Scott Spencer Terlich

 

Box Hill Hawks Miles 4 Summers 2 Lawlor O'Rourke Schoenmakers Whitecross Willsmore  

 

Best

 

Casey Scorpions Grimes Dawes T Smith White Scott Trengove

 

Box Hill Hawks Miles Litherland O'Rourke Mirra Spangher Whitecross

 

The Development League team conceded a start in the early game and in the end gave the Hawks a fright before a couple of late goals saw them lose what was a close game in the end.

 

Casey Scorpions 2.0.12 5.0.30 7.4.46 10.5.65

 

Box Hill Hawks 5.1.31 7.3.45 9.7.61 11.11.77

 

Goals

 

Casey Scorpions Baker Ferrera Wilson 2 Cox Damien Johnston Machaya Vander Haar

 

Box Hill Hawks Hehir 4 Dimasi Surman 2 Smith Tobin Traynor

 

Best

 

Casey Scorpions McInerney Vander Haar Wyatt Daniel Johnston Gains Moncrieff 

 

 

Box Hill Hawks Switkowski Firns Dimasi Walker Kidd Hehir

 

Statistics 
 
Chris Dawes 3 goals 2 behinds 22 disposals 12 kicks 10 handballs 5 marks 1 tackle 90 dream team points
Sam Frost 14 disposals 10 kicks 4 handballs 4 marks 3 tackles 62 dream team points
Jack Grimes 35 disposals 16 kicks 19 handballs 7 marks 11 tackles dream 149 team points
Liam Hulett 1 goal 1 behind 9 disposals 6 kicks 3 handballs 3 marks 1 tackle 41 dream team points
Max King 1 goal 8 disposals 4 kicks 4 handballs 4 marks 2 tackles 14 hit outs 58 dream team points
Christian Salem 28 disposals 20 kicks 8 handballs 7 marks 3 tackles 106 dream team points
Joel Smith 11 disposals 2 kicks 9 handballs 1 marks 4 tackles 43 dream team points
Jake Spencer 1 goal 1 behind 8 disposals 3 kicks 5 handballs 7 tackles 32 hit outs 85 dream team points
Dean Terlich 1 goal 3 behinds 15 disposals 11 kicks 4 handballs 5 marks 5 tackles 82 dream team points
Jack Trengove 30 disposals 11 kicks 19 handballs 3 marks 5 tackles 98 dream team points
Aaron vandenBerg 18 disposals 7 kicks 11 handballs 1 marks 6 tackles 1 hit out 63 dream team points
Sam Weideman 4 disposals 3 kicks 1 handballs 2 marks 11 dream team points
Mitch White 26 disposals 18 kicks 8 handballs 6 marks 4 tackles 103 dream team points
 
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Given that Casey has a bye, is the DL an option for the likes of Weid, Hulett, Joel Smith ...? Are there constraints on who can play? I'm assuming the Casey DL are playing?

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The Melbourne FD, and Casey players pushing for a place in the Demons line-up as well as those just needing miles in their legs (eg. Vanders.Dawes and maybe H) would be pretty cheesed off with the timing of the bye I reckon.

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1 hour ago, Deeoldfart said:

The Melbourne FD, and Casey players pushing for a place in the Demons line-up as well as those just needing miles in their legs (eg. Vanders.Dawes and maybe H) would be pretty cheesed off with the timing of the bye I reckon.

Yes the VFL fixture is serious problem. It helps no one.

 

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