Around the League Round Five

[titan_uranus 22,806]

5 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

How does a club like Hawthorn who's won the past three premierships and has over 70,000 members only get 45,000 people to a Friday night game?

I know a lot of Hawthorn fans and I have a strong belief that many of their supporters are "fake".

They've signed up because it's "in" - Hawthorn is a winning side, it's "fun" watching them play and being associated with them.

But they're not real supporters. They don't actually go to games, they don't dedicate themselves.

If Hawthorn stops winning their membership will fall to a truer number of around 50,000.

[titan_uranus 22,806]

As for the game, that was a borderline holding the ball on Smith (IMO he elected to ride the tackle (i.e. prior opportunity) and then dropped it), but the bigger issue for Adelaide was Jenkins' kick just before - he had Walker running towards goal but elected a ridiculous left-foot snap which went straight up in the air and wasted 4 or 5 seconds waiting for it to come back down.

[SaberFang 7,141]

He attempted to dispose of the ball by intentionally handballing thin air to give the impression he was trying. He knew exactly what he was doing, no different to when players pretend to handball it away when they're wrapped up in a tackle on the ground.

[CBDees 3,162]

Hawthorn and St Kilda have both wrecked my footy tipping record over the last fortnight, as both weeks I picked St Kilda to win and the Hawks to lose. Close but no cigar!

[Maple Demon 449]

A beautiful mark and goal by Heeney in rainy conditions.

[Maple Demon 449]

Soak it up Teddy R.

Bet you are glad to be out of Essendon (even if it was years ago, given what has gone on the last 4 years).

Edited April 23, 2016 by Maple Demon

[Whispering_Jack 28,094]

I watched Tom Papley play a few times as 23rd player for the Scorpions last year. He was mainly used in a forward goal sneak role and played well in every game. I didn't see him as a midfielder and he has certainly kicked on with the Swans where he was rookie listed at the end of last year.

Half time today - he has 15 disposals, a goal and 85 DT points.

Another one who got away.

[dees189227 11,018]

Cloke dropped for monday. Big call by bucks. I mean you would think Cloke could find form against essendon. If the pies lose on monday the pies fans will riot. 

[boydie 653]

2 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

I know a lot of Hawthorn fans and I have a strong belief that many of their supporters are "fake".

They've signed up because it's "in" - Hawthorn is a winning side, it's "fun" watching them play and being associated with them.

But they're not real supporters. They don't actually go to games, they don't dedicate themselves.

If Hawthorn stops winning their membership will fall to a truer number of around 50,000.

I think a lot of clubs are like that to be honest.

I don't really believe we only have 36000 supporters, if we were winning every week like Hawthorn I reckon a lot of people will come out of the woodwork and we'd have a membership base in excess of 50,000.

[daisycutter 28,694]

1 hour ago, Whispering_Jack said:

I watched Tom Papley play a few times as 23rd player for the Scorpions last year. He was mainly used in a forward goal sneak role and played well in every game. I didn't see him as a midfielder and he has certainly kicked on with the Swans where he was rookie listed at the end of last year.

Half time today - he has 15 disposals, a goal and 85 DT points.

Another one who got away.

likely to get this week's rising star award jack. 

[What 18,810]

I see NicNat is doing nothing again

Amazing that a 203 cm 100kg athlete cant take a mark

[dees189227 11,018]

As Eddie McGuire said on radio yesterday if anyone goes on and on about being a hawks member he asks how they voted in the merger. 

Talking about Nic Nat I cant wait to play them because Maxy will just run him around and he is a great pack mark. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Amazing that a team like Sydney can be gifted two players who would have gone top five in Heeney and Mills.

[daisycutter 28,694]

just to show how much stats can sometimes lie.  

swans won 12 16 88 to eagles 7 7 49 - twice as many scoring shots and 39 point margin. yet stats show a very even situation 

edit: missing eagles hit outs and interchanges are 41 and 87

 

STATS

 

• 373
• 220
• 153
• 19
• 43
• 14
• 29
• 63
• 10
• 167
• 84
• 40
• 81

• Disposals
• Kicks
• Handballs
• Free Kicks
• Clearances
• Centre
• Stoppages
• Inside 50
• Marks in 50
• Contested Possessions
• Tackles
• Hit-Outs
• Interchanges

• 376
• 217
• 159
• 19
• 32
• 8
• 24
• 59
• 8
• 169
• 83

Edited April 23, 2016 by daisycutter

[Binmans PA 26,512]

10 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

How does a club like Hawthorn who's won the past three premierships and has over 70,000 members only get 45,000 people to a Friday night game?

The same way we only got 28,000 to GWS when we have almost 10,000 more members. When you've got 70,000 members, it's fair to say the truer indication of the die hards are 40,000ish.

[Binmans PA 26,512]

Am I the only one that thinks West Coast look ordinary against the 2016 brand of football? Quick ball movement combined with contested possessions. I reckon they're very gettable this year when we play them. Bring our A game and we can knock them off.

Edited April 23, 2016 by AdamFarr

[Ethan Tremblay 28,549]

8 minutes ago, AdamFarr said:

Am I the only one that thinks West Coast ordinary against the 2016 brand of football? Quick ball movement combined with contested possessions. I reckon they're very gettable this year when we play them. Bring our A game and we can knock them off.

They've beaten Brisbane, Fremantle and Richmond. With those wins and losses to Hawthorn and Sydney looks like they're back to their flat track bully best. 

[Binmans PA 26,512]

I wonder if Adam Simpson has any answers this time.

[Moonshadow 16,411]

5 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

No it's not.

No prior opportunity and he attempted to dispose of the ball.

What?!! He clearly grabbed the ball to his chest making token punching actions to it well before anyone tackled him. Wstch the front on vision to Smith. His intent was to keep the ball in his hands and stall the flow of play, not to dispose of it. As Carey said, holding the ball every day of the week (except Friday night, it would appear)

[daisycutter 28,694]

Just now, Moonshadow said:

What?!! He clearly grabbed the ball to his chest making token punching actions to it well before anyone tackled him. Wstch the front on vision to Smith. His intent was to keep the ball in his hands and stall the flow of play, not to dispose of it. As Carey said, holding the ball every day of the week (except Friday night, it would appear)

i thought it was pretty marginal, so not too fussed. there were worse ones in last qtr

Edited April 23, 2016 by daisycutter

[Binmans PA 26,512]

Dion Prestia out with "Illness"...

In other news, Peter Wright looks pretty good after all this time.

Edited April 23, 2016 by AdamFarr

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

1 hour ago, AdamFarr said:

The same way we only got 28,000 to GWS when we have almost 10,000 more members. When you've got 70,000 members, it's fair to say the truer indication of the die hards are 40,000ish.

This was a Friday night game against a genuine premiership opposition.

Pathetic from Hawthorn.

[Binmans PA 26,512]

10 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

This was a Friday night game against a genuine premiership opposition.

Pathetic from Hawthorn.

I wouldn't call it pathetic, but it does show there are a lot of casual supporters in amongst those 70,000 members. 45,000 is still a pretty good effort against an interstate side. Mind you, Adelaide have a lot of support here. They tend to get about 15,000 along to games in Melbourne. So when you take that into consideration, Hawthorn would have been hoping for a few more.

Edited April 23, 2016 by AdamFarr

[Biffen 12,433]

21 hours ago, AngryAtCasey said:

Your probably right. However there's so many poor commentators around at the moment, he doesn't bother me to much compared to others.

Absolutely .

Seems to be a lot of parasites from the 80s and 90s clogging up the screen with their useless opinions.

Dermititus,Pig,Derwayne,Michael Roberts?,Lethal,Mark Maclure and other shine brains to name a few.

[boydie 653]

51 minutes ago, AdamFarr said:

Dion Prestia out with "Illness"...

In other news, Peter Wright looks pretty good after all this time.

Second year player is "after all this time"?