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2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

We didn't learn a thing from the St Kilda game.

So Jesse Hogan spoiled the last kick from our forward line did he?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

We didn't learn a thing from the St Kilda game.

No need to be so negative, jnr.

The fact we stacked the backline means we at least learned one thing from last year.

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I think it was  lack of centre setup structure and the tactics to match it.  he should have bought it straight down, but the mids should have known where it was going before he bounce and be ready. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

It was Viney's fault also. He was on Shiel at that  moment and for some reason gave him his own space right in Maxy's strike zone. He should have been right on his hammer and just blanketed him as soon as he hawked the tap, secondary ball up, game over. Oliver and Tyson were both wearing their opponent which was the right thing to do in that situation.

Viney's such a spud....

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Posted
1 hour ago, Chook said:

Viney's such a spud....

Even though u r joking chookie, that AINT funni!!  

Posted
8 hours ago, Curry & Beer said:

It was Viney's fault also. He was on Shiel at that  moment and for some reason gave him his own space right in Maxy's strike zone. He should have been right on his hammer and just blanketed him as soon as he hawked the tap, secondary ball up, game over. Oliver and Tyson were both wearing their opponent which was the right thing to do in that situation.

IMO the whole team still don't have the set play for that scenario (whatever it was...apart from stacking) down. They looked dissorganised and confused down back (i saw Watts/Hulk arguing for a while over who should be where just before the bounce).  Maybe Big M hit it to the wrong spot. Maybe Jack was in the wrong spot. Maybe we had too many down back vs set play plan. Who knows. Only Roos & Co. and the players would truly know if they got most/all/ or some of it down as per set play instructions/practice.

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Viney was in perfect position to take the tap to Maxy's feet, exactly like he was against St. Kilda. However Shiel (like Steven) gambled on setting up for a fast break (because that was their only hope) and Maxy obliged by putting it right where he wanted it. Maxy had a great game, but that was easily his worst moment. He certainly won't make that mistake a third time. And to be fair, the bounce did favour Shiel's line of attack over Viney's, and even wrong footed Mumford.


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Even more bizzare was that we'd pretty much slaughtered GWS out of the centre clearances all day. Then, with the game on the line like against the Saints last year, we still managed to stick the ball straight down the opposition's throat.

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11 hours ago, Akum said:

Viney was in perfect position to take the tap to Maxy's feet, exactly like he was against St. Kilda. However Shiel (like Steven) gambled on setting up for a fast break (because that was their only hope) and Maxy obliged by putting it right where he wanted it. Maxy had a great game, but that was easily his worst moment. He certainly won't make that mistake a third time. And to be fair, the bounce did favour Shiel's line of attack over Viney's, and even wrong footed Mumford.

I concur, we learned enough to get behind the ball but the execution at the bounce should have been better. but before all that -

56 seconds to go Jones takes a mark in the pocket, gets straight up and kicks the ball to Watts just outside the goal square 48 seconds to go, so Jones took a whole 8 seconds off the clock, Watts to Hogan 43 seconds to go, 5 seconds milked off the clock, Hogan back to Watts 37 seconds to go, 6 seconds milked off the clock, Watts out to the flank to Tyson, out of bounds 24 seconds to go, 13 seconds milked, ball gets thrown in, gets kicked into their forward line, we have 5 players at the drop of the ball, and not one back on the goal line, Greene kicks for goal which bounces on the line and through for a goal.

So we have 4 possessions in 32 seconds, if each player had taken another 10 seconds for each possession then game over, we win by 8 points.

Good teams (mature teams used to being in a situation like that) would have – 56 seconds to go Jones takes a mark in the pocket, Jones slower to get up after the mark, wastes another 20 seconds (28 Seconds to go), Watts holds on to the ball for another 10 Seconds before kicking it to Hogan (13 seconds to go), Hogan hangs on to the ball Siren goes.

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10 minutes ago, Big Kev said:

I concur, we learned enough to get behind the ball but the execution at the bounce should have been better. but before all that -

56 seconds to go Jones takes a mark in the pocket, gets straight up and kicks the ball to Watts just outside the goal square 48 seconds to go, so Jones took a whole 8 seconds off the clock, Watts to Hogan 43 seconds to go, 5 seconds milked off the clock, Hogan back to Watts 37 seconds to go, 6 seconds milked off the clock, Watts out to the flank to Tyson, out of bounds 24 seconds to go, 13 seconds milked, ball gets thrown in, gets kicked into their forward line, we have 5 players at the drop of the ball, and not one back on the goal line, Greene kicks for goal which bounces on the line and through for a goal.

 

 

So we have 4 possessions in 32 seconds, if each player had taken another 10 seconds for each possession then game over, we win by 8 points.

 

 

Good teams (mature teams used to being in a situation like that) would have – 56 seconds to go Jones takes a mark in the pocket, Jones slower to get up after the mark, wastes another 20 seconds (28 Seconds to go), Watts holds on to the ball for another 10 Seconds before kicking it to Hogan (13 seconds to go), Hogan hangs on to the ball Siren goes.

 

 

 

did they know though? I thought there would be 2-3 more minutes in the quarter which is too early to shut up shop

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While the team had learnt to stack the backline, not a single one of them stood forward of the 50m arc, and most well back from it.  The danger was a single kick by GWS from the centre. 

There was no-one set to rush into the centre square and help the mids, and it left space for the ball to drop or for a GWS player to lead.  No-one was needed on the goal line.   We were lucky that the single kick wasn't marked.

More work needed

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9 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

While the team had learnt to stack the backline, not a single one of them stood forward of the 50m arc, and most well back from it.  The danger was a single kick by GWS from the centre. 

There was no-one set to rush into the centre square and help the mids, and it left space for the ball to drop or for a GWS player to lead.  No-one was needed on the goal line.   We were lucky that the single kick wasn't marked.

More work needed

correct. gws had three players on our side (all alone) on the 50m square who all charged to the centre as the ball was bounced, with one receiving from shiel for the deep kick forward

Posted
15 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

While the team had learnt to stack the backline, not a single one of them stood forward of the 50m arc, and most well back from it.  The danger was a single kick by GWS from the centre. 

There was no-one set to rush into the centre square and help the mids, and it left space for the ball to drop or for a GWS player to lead.  No-one was needed on the goal line.   We were lucky that the single kick wasn't marked.

More work needed

If Watts had been on the goal line he would have marked the Toby Greene goal, instead he was at the drop of the ball, I am of the belief if Dunn had played, he would have dropped out the back to the goal line.

Posted
20 hours ago, Pipefitter said:

It is surprising we haven't worked that out yet with the create another ball up specialist in roos up in the coaches box. I'm blaming goodwin. ?

How times have changed. This time last year it would have been Jack Watts' fault.

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