Four weeks minimum not running, then 2-4 weeks of upping loads on the foot and again on the knee. So that's end of February at the earliest, then he needs to be eased into games, so we won't have him in the seniors for the first few rounds.

lets face it, on training alone he is better than a lot on our list, this means our team is weaker so that gives us less chance to win those early games. Can play him as a sub so can't ease him into AFL.

Bloody stupid thing to do and I hope the club tears fucken shreds off him. 

All his effort getting the knee right for round one is gone, not to say, was he cleared by the club to be playing basketball at home? Is this in his rehab plan? I bloody doubt it.

I knew a 16 yr old up and coming soccer player who decided to skip training and play basketball with his mates… oops there goes the colarbone, a hospital job. Goodbye to his potential new career. Football players should keep away from other sports unless approved by the coach and why the club didn't have a policy in place to prevent this? 

1 hour ago, Gorgoroth said:

Four weeks minimum not running, then 2-4 weeks of upping loads on the foot and again on the knee. So that's end of February at the earliest, then he needs to be eased into games, so we won't have him in the seniors for the first few rounds.

Four weeks not running and let's say another 4 weeks getting back up to speed from a fitness point of view.  That's 8 weeks.  And bear in mind that he'll be doing a lot of non weight bearing aerobic activity in the meanwhile.

He injured himself on Jan. 3, so eight weeks brings him up to about 28 Feb., which is still 4 weeks before round 1.  It seems to me that there's no reason he won't be in line for our first match on March 26.  There will still be NAB matches going on (March 13), intraclub simulations and the opportunity to play for Casey.  Worst case he misses the first couple of rounds.

From his tweet it sounds like he was on the end of a severe bollocking from Roos and rightfully so. Players have to develop the mindset of treating their bodies with respect in the same way as Olympic and other elite athletes would. So much effort goes into rehab and recovery it's not acceptable to have it all undone like this. 

I can't think of a worse sport to engage in when recovering from an ACL - twisting, rapid acceleration/deceleration and jumping high, coming down hard on the knee. He was lucky to get away with a minor foot fracture. I think the Club has every right to be pizzed off.

10 hours ago, hemingway said:

This will be an interesting year for Petracca. We are all physically or physiogically different. Some stronger some weaker and our biomechanics of muscle and limbs, our balance, our weight to power ratios all vary enormously. Success in any sport depends on many attributes, but one of the most important is that under the duress of training and competition , the successful athlete can avoid injury. The continuity of training every day over not a season but multiple seasons is paramount. A friend of mine became a triple Olympian and a household name not because he had more ability than others but because he was able to train every day and compete over many years without injury.  In AFL terms, Nathan Jones is a prime example. Gary Ablett is another. It is very difficult to make it if you are prone to injury. Sometimes injury catches up with players. Wayne Carey is an example. Starting a career with injury problems and an inability to train and play week in week out makes the job very difficult. Give me the guy with the resilient body over the gifted but injury prone athlete or footballer any day. 

As expected Ernest an excellent comment.

yep if you cannot get on the park you are the worst player on the list.

Remove the pinky toe. In all my years I don't know what good it does anyway.

About the same as a pinky finger. Once that gets dislocated it is pretty much stuffed for the rest of your life anyway.

17 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said:

Remove the pinky toe. In all my years I don't know what good it does anyway.

About the same as a pinky finger. Once that gets dislocated it is pretty much stuffed for the rest of your life anyway.

How the hell do you expect to play "This little piggy went to market .."?

18 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

How the hell do you expect to play "This little piggy went to market .."?

Speaking of toes, BBO, I can't help but notice that you look quite a lot like a big toe with makeup and jewellery. 

24 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

How the hell do you expect to play "This little piggy went to market .."?

With the same degree of difficulty that you do with 6 toes on each foot.

11 hours ago, hemingway said:

This will be an interesting year for Petracca. We are all physically or physiogically different. Some stronger some weaker and our biomechanics of muscle and limbs, our balance, our weight to power ratios all vary enormously. Success in any sport depends on many attributes, but one of the most important is that under the duress of training and competition , the successful athlete can avoid injury. The continuity of training every day over not a season but multiple seasons is paramount. A friend of mine became a triple Olympian and a household name not because he had more ability than others but because he was able to train every day and compete over many years without injury.  In AFL terms, Nathan Jones is a prime example. Gary Ablett is another. It is very difficult to make it if you are prone to injury. Sometimes injury catches up with players. Wayne Carey is an example. Starting a career with injury problems and an inability to train and play week in week out makes the job very difficult. Give me the guy with the resilient body over the gifted but injury prone athlete or footballer any day. 

Didn't Nathan miss a bit of last pre-season with a surfing injury?   Should he not be allowed to surf for recreation?  Surely a far more risky pastime than social basketball.   

11 hours ago, bing181 said:

Going a bit early with the "prone to injury"?

Both Christian's injuries were the result of accidents, as opposed to a player like Hunt who has spent two years on the sidelines with back issues, or players like Taggert or Tapscott who kept breaking down. As for Chris Dawes ...

 

So true.  [censored] happens.   And don't get me started on Luke Molan again: vilified as a "dud" without ever having the opportunity to play due to a series of accidents.

57 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

WTF is KOTD and FITA?

wtf is wtf?

12 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Didn't Nathan miss a bit of last pre-season with a surfing injury?   Should he not be allowed to surf for recreation?  Surely a far more risky pastime than social basketball.   

Spot on. The uproar seems to be a bit different this time around. [censored] happens. 

For all the people saying players have the right to pursue interests outside of football that's fine, but in this particular case it's "the timing of it". 

Would of been nice is he waited to get through the pre season and maybe even have a few games under his belt. 

The club has invested heavily in him and is rightly pi$$ed off.

I broke my little toe by stubbing it while walking through the kitchen... guess i should stay out of the kitchen now...

20 minutes ago, monoccular said:

Didn't Nathan miss a bit of last pre-season with a surfing injury?   Should he not be allowed to surf for recreation?  Surely a far more risky pastime than social basketball.  

Are you serious? Jones has played 201 out of a possible 206 games since he debuted. Nobody is concerned with his ability to get on the Park. Petracca has missed all 22 of his career so far. One player should be having a seriously cotton-wool approach to his off-season and the other has earnt the right to be more liberal.

The last few months of ACL recovery is about trusting the new ligament and getting back into doing everything you did pre-injury.  I think it is a positive that he felt his new ligament was up to a game of b.ball.   Broken bones are accidents and can happen at any time and any place, two of my kids broke arms this year - one tripping over a slide and one landing on his arm while attempting a flip on the trampoline - yet no broken bones in the various sports they do 3-4 times a week (touch, soccer, taekwondo, swimming and basketball).

 

I think it is ridiculous to expect professional sports people to limit any physical activity outside of their sport - they are allowed a social life and recreational fun.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

As expected Ernest an excellent comment.

yep if you cannot get on the park you are the worst player on the list.

truth.

 

What is a metatarsal stress fracture?

A metatarsal stress fracture is a condition characterized by an incomplete crack in one of the metatarsal bones. There are five metatarsal bones each of which is located in the forefoot.

 

Cause of a metatarsal stress fracture

A stress fracture of the metatarsal typically occurs over time with excessive weight bearing activity such as running, sprinting, jumping or dancing. They often occur following a recent increase in activity or change in training conditions (such as surface, footwear or technique changes etc). Occasionally this condition may occur traumatically such as landing onto a hard surface from a height.

Prognosis of a metatarsal stress fracture

With appropriate physiotherapy management, most patients with this condition can make a full recovery (return to sport or full activities) in a period of 3 - 9 months. In more severe cases, recovery may take 1 year, or longer, depending on the intervention required and a range of other factors. In rare cases (usually those that have been poorly managed), some patients may experience ongoing symptoms or complications which may require further management.

5 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

Are you serious? Jones has played 201 out of a possible 206 games since he debuted. Nobody is concerned with his ability to get on the Park. Petracca has missed all 22 of his career so far. One player should be having a seriously cotton-wool approach to his off-season and the other has earnt the right to be more liberal.

Just seeing that in writing reinforces what an impressive performance that has been. It shows physical resilience, mental toughness and consistency of form.

And there's nothing to say that Petracca won't play 201 out of a possible 206 once he debuts, either. 

We don't know the facts (as usual) so until it is clear that he was doing something stupid I can't see any justification for blaming him.  Playing a  basketball game cannot be considered stupid in itself if played sensibly and bearing in mind his general situation. However, the fact that Roos is so publicly [censored] off may indicate he was doing something stupid.

14 minutes ago, DeeMfc said:

 

What is a metatarsal stress fracture?

A metatarsal stress fracture is a condition characterized by an incomplete crack in one of the metatarsal bones. There are five metatarsal bones each of which is located in the forefoot.

 

Cause of a metatarsal stress fracture

A stress fracture of the metatarsal typically occurs over time with excessive weight bearing activity such as running, sprinting, jumping or dancing. They often occur following a recent increase in activity or change in training conditions (such as surface, footwear or technique changes etc). Occasionally this condition may occur traumatically such as landing onto a hard surface from a height.

Prognosis of a metatarsal stress fracture

With appropriate physiotherapy management, most patients with this condition can make a full recovery (return to sport or full activities) in a period of 3 - 9 months. In more severe cases, recovery may take 1 year, or longer, depending on the intervention required and a range of other factors. In rare cases (usually those that have been poorly managed), some patients may experience ongoing symptoms or complications which may require further management.

 

It is not a stress fracture. It is a small fracture off the head of the 5th met.

Edited January 5, 20169 yr by Cards13

5 minutes ago, sue said:

We don't know the facts (as usual) so until it is clear that he was doing something stupid I can't see any justification for blaming him.  Playing a  basketball game cannot be considered stupid in itself if played sensibly and bearing in mind his general situation. However, the fact that Roos is so publicly [censored] off may indicate he was doing something stupid.

Coming off an ACL injury, playing basketball would be considered stupid, which is where Roos is probably coming from. The toe injury was probably the result of someone landing on it in a rebound, or something innocuous.

Excruciatingly frustrating news. He'll learn his lesson will Trac. More than likely rules him out of most of the not-so-serious Nab Challenge (praccy matches). It's a big chunk of the pre-season to miss and hence, will effect his season output one way or another whether Dees supporters like it or not. 

He's the confident care free type of player who can't wait for footy. This should peg him back to reality. He has worked incredibly hard to this point to get back and his air-of-confidence of late has been most notable. 

Obviously a few posters have already commented which I haven't had time to read as yet, but this will undoubtedly be more than 4-6 to get back to where he was prior to Christmas training fully with the squad. Looks like he will be spending more time with the likes of Frost and Trengove.

What's done is done unfortunately. Cue the posters highlighting the NS curse for amusement.

If anything, this will underpin further a steely resolve for him to look after himself and not take anything for granted, or do anything outlandishly stupid. It will re-inforce the professionalism aspect, and the desire to take care in future. 

Every Melbourne supporter has a right to feel frustrated as it is all too familiar with key injuries to key players when the going seems good. The list is endless. Telling people to calm down will fall on deaf ears for many. 

To those frustrated - there will always be more injuries/stories like this, it's part and parcel of footy when you have a list of 40 or so players.

 

2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Coming off an ACL injury, playing basketball would be considered stupid, which is where Roos is probably coming from. The toe injury was probably the result of someone landing on it in a rebound, or something innocuous.

Depends entirely on how vigorous the basket ball game was. We don't know.  If he had been instructed to not play certain types of games at any level including basketball because of ACL concerns, then he should have been in trouble regardless of the toe injury.    If he hadn't been so instructed, and it was an ACL concern, then someone else should be in trouble.