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Great news.  Well deserved.

 

Well done Nathan.

Posted (edited)

Nice, keep up the work Chunk, lead by example and maybe the stragglers will start to follow.

 

 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

I am happy for jones to have it this year and probably next. Viney will be in leadership group this year, VC next year. 

Will be interesting to see where Brayshaw and a few others are placed in terms of leadership over the next 2-3 years. We might actually have a variety of real leaders in the mix for capt and VC positions.

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Does he have the time to be an effective captain, keeping in mind his surfing commitments, etc?

Still amazed that some people on here used that as a reason why they didn't think he should be captain. :huh:

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Posted
35 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Will be interesting to see where Brayshaw and a few others are placed in terms of leadership over the next 2-3 years. We might actually have a variety of real leaders in the mix for capt and VC positions.

Viney has been thereabouts for a few years, Brayshaw at least another two years. 

But if what you hear is correct and the leaders in 5 years time are Viney, Brayshaw, hogan, etc that is a very good thing.

Posted
51 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

Does he have the time to be an effective captain, keeping in mind his surfing commitments, etc?

Still amazed that some people on here used that as a reason why they didn't think he should be captain. :huh:

You have an excellent memory billy2803. Mind boggling at the time and still now....SWYL

http://demonland.com/forums/topic/29256-captain-and-leadership-group-nearest-the-pin/?page=3

 

Posted

Age story about Captaincy and Leadership Group: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/melbourne-announce-nathan-jones-as-captain-again-for-2016-20151210-gll01t.html

Roos said that it had "been a pleasure to watch" Jones' evolution into a selfless player...'.

'...he said the composition of the club's leadership group remained up in the air, and would not be determined for certain until after the commencement of the NAB Challenge...Roos said the reason was to ensure that on-field performance, and not only training attitude, was taken into account when considering who would lead the club. He said that some of the club's new players could "absolutely" be included in the group'. 

'...Jones nominated defender Tom McDonald and midfielder Jack Viney as two players who could be in line for ascension to the leadership group next season. Lynden Dunn, Daniel Cross, Heritier Lumumba, Chris Dawes and Grimes were the others in the group this year'.

With Cross gone, I would imagine the Club would not want too much change in the LG so you would think Jones, Dunn and Lumumba will continue.  Given what Roos said above about on-field performance I suspect that Grimes and Dawes will not get another leadership gig. 

Tom Mc deserves a spot as does Viney.  That makes 5.  The club may stop with that rather than go to 6.  Other 'new players' be it Vand, Hogan or Brayshaw, I feel need another year or two playing AFL before the additional responsibility - not because they couldn't handle it but simply to give them another year or two to settle in and enjoy themselves. 
 

 

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Where?

"Reigning best and fairest winner Bernie Vince has suffered a minor setback after breaking his little finger at training last week.

Vince was spotted with a splint on his finger at the club's training base at AAMI Park on Friday morning.

"Unfortunately he had an incident last week. He'd actually just made it back into the main group and then busted his little finger," Jones said.

"He's got a little pin in there. It's pretty standard, most boys at this time of year might suffer something minor like that, but that's not going to affect him in terms of weights and running.

"A little bit of (an interruption) with ball work for a few weeks, but he'll be sweet."

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44 minutes ago, H_T said:

You have an excellent memory billy2803. Mind boggling at the time and still now....SWYL

http://demonland.com/forums/topic/29256-captain-and-leadership-group-nearest-the-pin/?page=3

 

Most times I cringe when threads get brought up like you have just done, HT, but this time I'm quite satisfied with how I read the state of play back then.  I'll claim it as some of my best analysis to date!

I'll read my "$cully is staying" posts to remind myself I'm not a total smart arse...!

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49 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

Most times I cringe when threads get brought up like you have just done, HT, but this time I'm quite satisfied with how I read the state of play back then.  I'll claim it as some of my best analysis to date!

I'll read my "$cully is staying" posts to remind myself I'm not a total smart arse...!

I am too. Got to laugh at the FB/surf analysis though.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Age story about Captaincy and Leadership Group: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/melbourne-announce-nathan-jones-as-captain-again-for-2016-20151210-gll01t.html

Roos said that it had "been a pleasure to watch" Jones' evolution into a selfless player...'.

'...he said the composition of the club's leadership group remained up in the air, and would not be determined for certain until after the commencement of the NAB Challenge...Roos said the reason was to ensure that on-field performance, and not only training attitude, was taken into account when considering who would lead the club. He said that some of the club's new players could "absolutely" be included in the group'. 

'...Jones nominated defender Tom McDonald and midfielder Jack Viney as two players who could be in line for ascension to the leadership group next season. Lynden Dunn, Daniel Cross, Heritier Lumumba, Chris Dawes and Grimes were the others in the group this year'.

With Cross gone, I would imagine the Club would not want too much change in the LG so you would think Jones, Dunn and Lumumba will continue.  Given what Roos said above about on-field performance I suspect that Grimes and Dawes will not get another leadership gig. 

Tom Mc deserves a spot as does Viney.  That makes 5.  The club may stop with that rather than go to 6.  Other 'new players' be it Vand, Hogan or Brayshaw, I feel need another year or two playing AFL before the additional responsibility - not because they couldn't handle it but simply to give them another year or two to settle in and enjoy themselves. 
 

 

 

In terms of leadership group it makes sense that T-Mac and Viney come on board.

Removing two players - ie: Dawes and Grimes - is easier on them than just dropping one and based on last year both can't be guaranteed games.

The one player who has now done his time and shown great leadership (despite being a bit of a rascal) that has so far been overlooked is Vince.

But it can't all be based on B&F count - I'm sure the club will determine who is appropriate.

Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, Deespicable said:

In terms of leadership group it makes sense that T-Mac and Viney come on board.

Removing two players - ie: Dawes and Grimes - is easier on them than just dropping one and based on last year both can't be guaranteed games.

The one player who has now done his time and shown great leadership (despite being a bit of a rascal) that has so far been overlooked is Vince.

But it can't all be based on B&F count - I'm sure the club will determine who is appropriate.

I think the players vote in the LG

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Posted

Cross, Dawes, Lumumba, Grimes out

Viney, TMAC, Jetta, Vince in

 

sounds handy to me.

Posted
9 hours ago, H_T said:

You have an excellent memory billy2803. Mind boggling at the time and still now....SWYL

http://demonland.com/forums/topic/29256-captain-and-leadership-group-nearest-the-pin/?page=3

 

Thought his year in 2015 was fairly ordinary actually...But i am sure i will be shouted down....Don't care

Too easily tagged out of important games....

Posted

We have a great skipper.  I love him.  Tough as nails, loyal, reliable...we have a champion on our hands and if we can make some noise in the next few years having him lead us is going to be the icing on the cake.  Not a football fan in the country would begrudge him success.  As for all the other talk about leadership groups and 'what not'...i reckon its all a bit overrated this leadership group stuff (bear in mind you have a bunch of penis photographing, sexually debauched, dwarf burning idiots down there at the Saints making Jake Carlisle work hard to earn 'their' 'respect' - outrageous!   Clowns.  Forget about all this leadership group buuuullllllshhhiiit...a captain, vice captain, deputy vice-captain...Bounce the ball thanks umpire we're all set!  

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