monoccular 17,760 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Way too much of Dwayne Russell in those highlights. Say what you will about Melksham - the club identified him a long way out for a particular role and here he is and, again, if he can release Salem into the middle more then that is gold weight. Totally agree re Derwayne- such an annoying voice and turn of phrase. Hadn't seen any of that before due to my refusal to watch and EssenDrug matches. My only concern is not IF he can play, as I'll defer to the club on that , it is WHEN he can play and the wisdom of such He could well be ok as a player. I just have this uneasy feeling we're being played by Essendon. You too don't trust that club. It is a concern. Still hope they gave put some form of get out clause into the contract. Jake reminds me a bit of Ted Richards, Roos and his coaching staff did a fairly good job in turning him around after he left Essendon Welcome Jake In what way ?Try reading the second sentence as well as the first, ProDee Edited October 16, 2015 by monoccular Quote
rpfc 29,030 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 What's the difference between Jake Melksham and Dom Tyson? From where I sit, Dom has more talent in close, has better vision with the footy and execution with the footy. I think he is a better footy player than Melksham. That isn't to say that players like Melksham are not required, but understandably, they don't excite. We are about to lose a player (hopefully with more than ND25 coming back) who is not as good a player as Melksham. 1 Quote
GCDee 3,202 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Hi guys and girls, I'm a long time reader but first time poster on this forum and just wanted to add my 2 cents on the Melksham deal. For me I think it's a win for the club, Melksham in comparison to Watts statistically speaking are almost identical since they were drafted although Watts is a year older. Jake was once a high draft pick (granted it doesn't mean everything) but it meant Essendon must have rated him highly in his draft year as we did with Watts. And both haven't lived up to their potential yet. So it begs the question would anyone on this forum happily trade out jack watts for anything less than pick 25? Personally I wouldn't and that's why I think Melksham deal was a good get. Granted I will say Watts has a higher ceiling due to his polish but with Melksham we will get someone who will give their all and not afraid to hurt the opposition (fairly) which is what a lot of you have wanted in our team in previous years. No I don't believe he will rack up 25+ touches every week and be top 5 in our B and F but I see a player who will go out and give his all and play the way the game should be played. I believe there is a negative view of Melksham not just because he hasn't quite lived up to his potential but just purely because he is a ugly bastard and he gets under your skin, maybe that's the sort of player we need in our back half to get under the skin of the opposition a bit. Just my 2 cents and no this post was not made to belittle Watts in anyway, I think Watts will be a star for the MFC. 15 Quote
KingDingAling 3,758 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Hi guys and girls, I'm a long time reader but first time poster on this forum and just wanted to add my 2 cents on the Melksham deal. For me I think it's a win for the club, Melksham in comparison to watts statistically speaking are almost identical since they were drafted although Watts is a year older. Jake was once a high draft pick (granted it doesn't mean everything) but it meant Essendon must have rated him highly in his draft year as we did with Watts. And both haven't lived up to their potential yet. So it begs the question would anyone on this forum happily trade out jack watts for anything less than pick 25? Personally I wouldn't and that's why I think Melksham deal was a good get. Granted I will say watts has a higher ceiling due to his polish but with Melksham we will get someone who will give their all and not afraid to hurt the opposition (fairly) which is what a lot of you have wanted in our team in previous years. No I don't believe he will rack up 25+ touches every week and be top 5 in our B and F but I see a player who will go out and give his all and play the way the game should be played. I believe there is a negative view of Melksham not just because he hasn't quite lived up to his potential but just purely because he is a ugly bastard and he gets under your skin, maybe that's the sort of player we need in our back half to get under the skin of the opposition a bit. Just my 2 cents and no this post was not made to belittle watts in anyway, I think watts will be a star for the MFC. Hey Jake, welcome aboard buddy. 2 Quote
Tony Tea 2,816 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 It still tickles me that we would have drafted Melksham with Pick 11 in 2009 if he was available, but he went at pick 10 and we took Gysberts. (At least Melksham is still in the AFL.) 1 Quote
Tony Tea 2,816 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 PS: I think better development (and the club not being a basketcase) would have enabled us to do more with Gysberts, who despite having Grover arms, seemed to know how to get the footy in traffic. Quote
HulkHogan 69 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Studied his highlights today, I think he could be useful if he decides to pursue the half-back role. He has a monster kick and seems pretty accurate as well. If he doesn't, he seems to have some poise in the midfield that could help, wont be the A+ were looking for but he seems to have some class about him and experience with Goodwin can only help. Quote
Return to Glory 8,518 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Hi guys and girls, I'm a long time reader but first time poster on this forum and just wanted to add my 2 cents on the Melksham deal. For me I think it's a win for the club, Melksham in comparison to watts statistically speaking are almost identical since they were drafted although Watts is a year older. Jake was once a high draft pick (granted it doesn't mean everything) but it meant Essendon must have rated him highly in his draft year as we did with Watts. And both haven't lived up to their potential yet. So it begs the question would anyone on this forum happily trade out jack watts for anything less than pick 25? Personally I wouldn't and that's why I think Melksham deal was a good get. Granted I will say watts has a higher ceiling due to his polish but with Melksham we will get someone who will give their all and not afraid to hurt the opposition (fairly) which is what a lot of you have wanted in our team in previous years. No I don't believe he will rack up 25+ touches every week and be top 5 in our B and F but I see a player who will go out and give his all and play the way the game should be played. I believe there is a negative view of Melksham not just because he hasn't quite lived up to his potential but just purely because he is a ugly bastard and he gets under your skin, maybe that's the sort of player we need in our back half to get under the skin of the opposition a bit. Just my 2 cents and no this post was not made to belittle watts in anyway, I think watts will be a star for the MFC. I suspect you make way too much sense to post on Demonland GCDee. 2 Quote
Return to Glory 8,518 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 At least Melksham can fight Jack's a lover. Quote
Biffen 12,949 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Jack's a lover. More just a f*&ker! 1 Quote
FarNorthernD 5,863 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Melksham V Draft pick 25 Draft pick 25 Age; 18 Average games; 58.6 (all picks 21-30) Pros; Could be a late blooming Nat Fyfe type. Cons; 2016 = a development year, mainly Casey, some MFC. First 20 games spent picking up the pace of the game, getting stronger Best football, perhaps 30 games worth, from 2018 onwards Super unlikely to be next Nat Fyfe Melksham Age; 24 Games; 114 to date. Pros; Mature, seasoned body, ready to play Rnd 1 2016 We know he can actually play at this level should/could get 4-6 seasons (60-100 games out of him) Has played good AFL footy Cons; Hasn't played good AFL footy consistently since 2013 Not Nat Fyfe WADA There has to be the assumption that our footy dept is confident that the WADA issues are covered. If this is the case then Melksham is the smarter choice. He can play first game next year and Roos believes he will immediately make us a better side. Pick 25 is a long term lottery ticket that is very unlikely to give us a better return than Jake. 2 Quote
Mach5 4,768 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 If there is no assumption, you'd have to think both Hawthorn & St Kilda have been incredibly negligent in their offers for Carlisle. Quote
Coq au vin 755 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Totally agree re Derwayne- such an annoying voice and turn of phrase. Hadn't seen any of that before due to my refusal to watch and EssenDrug matches. You too don't trust that club. It is a concern. Still hope they gave put some form of get out clause into the contract. Try reading the second sentence as well as the first, ProDee Technically there are no sentences in the post as there are no full stops. Do you mean "Welcome Jake"? Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 If there is no assumption, you'd have to think both Hawthorn & St Kilda have been incredibly negligent in their offers for Carlisle. or just plain risk-takers it's a big leap of blind faith to assume that these people have any better crystal balls than anyone outside of wada/cas now with melksham onboard we are all conflicted on whether wada should be successful 1 Quote
jnrmac 20,376 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 We need competitive footballers with skills - tick We need runners - tick We need to improve on the players we delisted - tick Goodwin has intimate knowledge of this guy's ability. We need to back his assessment. 4 Quote
DeeMfc 621 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted 17 August 2014 - 08:38 AM Jake Melksham should/could be a target. Hard and classy. Just what Roos stated we need. Believe he is disgruntled and looking for a fresh start. In his own words he 'plays best when given a role'. Pick 23ish should get the job done. Roos should get into bombers ear about a trade/swap scenario. (After we know the ASADA washout) JV7 likes this Like This Did I know something 14 months ago..... Lol 7 Quote
DeeMfc 621 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 We need competitive footballers with skills - tick We need runners - tick We need to improve on the players we delisted - tick Goodwin has intimate knowledge of this guy's ability. We need to back his assessment. McCartney worked with him too.Both worked with him directly. One as his line coach and the other in a development role. I doubt they would have chased him if they didn't see the upside. Quote
What 18,810 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) I have done a complete 180.. I think im gonna like this guy. Language warning Edited October 17, 2015 by Petraccattack 4 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,342 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 I will forever love this guy if he knocks out one Jeremy Howe in the opening 5 minutes in the QB clash. 3 Quote
DemonOX 8,857 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 I will forever love this guy if he knocks out one Jeremy Howe in the opening 5 minutes in the QB clash. Or scummy. Quote
FireInTheBennelly 4,104 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 I will forever love this guy if he knocks out one Jeremy Howe in the opening 5 minutes in the QB clash. Considering the positions both players are likely to assume, I'd say there's a chance they'll play within a reasonable proximity. I think a 3-4 week ban for a busted nose is well worth it. Quote
FireInTheBennelly 4,104 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 I have done a complete 180.. I think im gonna like this guy. Language warning Yep love it. Exactly what we need. Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 or just plain risk-takers it's a big leap of blind faith to assume that these people have any better crystal balls than anyone outside of wada/cas now with melksham onboard we are all conflicted on whether wada should be successful I'm not. If Milkshake does time then thats fine by me. Hes already accomplished stupidity. When the bans transpire then the MFC brains trust will have too. Quote
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 The fact he decked Lindsay Thomas means he is more than ok in my eyes. 3 Quote
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