AFL Round 13 - they're all non MFC Games

[Ethan Tremblay 30,872]

At the risk of hijacking this dying forum into the Goodes booing issue: An earlier poster listed a number of booable things that Goodes does or has done. The point is that there are many players who do that sort of stuff as much as he does. The thing is he gets continually booed and they don't. Why?

And those players get boo'd as well. Goodes is the only one to come out and make it an issue to the media. Of course if people think it rattles him they are going to continue it in an attempt to put him off his game.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,054]

Darcey Moore looks like he'll be good. Playing for the Pies VFL side today.

[dees189227 12,394]

At the risk of hijacking this dying forum into the Goodes booing issue: An earlier poster listed a number of booable things that Goodes does or has done. The point is that there are many players who do that sort of stuff as much as he does. The thing is he gets continually booed and they don't. Why?

Yeah but Goodes seem to do it more than most. I just remember in the early days he got away with everything. This is why im not a fan. I mean at 1/4 time last night he totally over reacted and had a bit of a scuffle going and then again when Buddy took a mark and Rance slid and again Goodes butted in and over reacted. Its like he cant mind his own business and just has to get involved in something.

[sue 9,107]

And those players get boo'd as well. Goodes is the only one to come out and make it an issue to the media. Of course if people think it rattles him they are going to continue it in an attempt to put him off his game.

Yes the others do get booed, but only occasionally and usually just after they have done another low act. I used the word 'continually' when referring to Goodes being booed.

And while it has been big in the media, has Goodes really personally made an issue of it in the media himself? I don't think he has.

He gets booed because he has a high profile outside of football. Some of that reflects a portion of the population that just can't accept an outspoken aborigine and are easily swept into booing him. Some would possibly boo anyone who regardless of race has a high profile outside of footy and dares to play footy. Others are just sheep.

Yeah but Goodes seem to do it more than most. I just remember in the early days he got away with everything. This is why im not a fan. I mean at 1/4 time last night he totally over reacted and had a bit of a scuffle going and then again when Buddy took a mark and Rance slid and again Goodes butted in and over reacted. Its like he cant mind his own business and just has to get involved in something.

Sure, you are entitled to feel that way. But does that cause you to boo him every time he appears? I expect not. (I feel the same about Harvey from NM. But I don't boo him every time I see him).

[dees189227 12,394]

Yes the others do get booed, but only occasionally and usually just after they have done another low act. I used the word 'continually' when referring to Goodes being booed.

And while it has been big in the media, has Goodes really personally made an issue of it in the media himself? I don't think he has.

He gets booed because he has a high profile outside of football. Some of that reflects a portion of the population that just can't accept an outspoken aborigine and are easily swept into booing him. Some would possibly boo anyone who regardless of race has a high profile outside of footy and dares to play footy. Others are just sheep.

Sure, you are entitled to feel that way. But does that cause you to boo him every time he appears? I expect not. (I feel the same about Harvey from NM. But I don't boo him every time I see him).

I dont boo him never have and I never will. Im just not a fan.

[Fork 'em 6,984]

I don't like Goodes because it appears as though he was named Australian of the Year on the strength of pointing out a 13yr old girl during a football game.
I also didn't like the fact he then used that platform to then shitcan the country during his acceptance speech.

So .... Boooo to you Goodesy.
And before anyone labels me a racist.
If I had the opportunity to boo Tim Flannery, I'd boo him too.

Edited June 27, 2015 by Fork 'em

[dees189227 12,394]

Cyril missing today. But I hope the bummers cop a smashing. Put more pressure on turd.They better not do what they did in r2 and upset them.

[dpositive 1,665]

Got a good grip there goodsy

Is that a look of shock and horror on Goodes face??

[timD 994]

And those players get boo'd as well. Goodes is the only one to come out and make it an issue to the media. Of course if people think it rattles him they are going to continue it in an attempt to put him off his game.

no they don't.

And you'd know that they don't.

So you are lying. I'm sure you are not ignorant. That leaves lying as the only alternative.Just baffled as to why.

Many players do exactly what Goodes does onfield (boomer harvey for one) and NEVER get booed. You can point to dozens of sneaky snipers, precious umpire pets, or self-important tools and the truth is that they don't get booed at games or across games. It is a shocking argument - it is not even an argument, it is just a shameful rationalisation - a defence - of racist behaviour. It is gutless and horrid and should be rejected out of hand.

This is so clearly a racial issue. Those that deny it (and I mean all if you) cannot all be ignorant to the sort of social psych pressures that lead to racist behaviour, cannot be ignorant to the 'cultural' racism inherent in white australia and the growing tolerance for racist attitudes over the last 10 years. It is utterly implausible. Actually, when you add up all those effects, the null hypothesis is that booing is racist it becomes your job to disprove it. All the forces at work make racist motivations the most likely state. Your job is to prove it isn't. And you can't.

Lot's of players are unpleasant or easy to dislike. They don't get booed. Goodes does. Join the dots and man up the lot of you.

[frankie_d 1,471]

At whotethorn vs the druggies. I long for the day when we play as nasty as Hawthorn. They've been like this since there 60s, and we've been nice for too long. VDB, Brayshaw, TMac, viney, Vince... Things might be turning

[frankie_d 1,471]

no they don't.

And you'd know that they don't.

So you are lying. I'm sure you are not ignorant. That leaves lying as the only alternative.Just baffled as to why.

Many players do exactly what Goodes does onfield (boomer harvey for one) and NEVER get booed. You can point to dozens of sneaky snipers, precious umpire pets, or self-important tools and the truth is that they don't get booed at games or across games. It is a shocking argument - it is not even an argument, it is just a shameful rationalisation - a defence - of racist behaviour. It is gutless and horrid and should be rejected out of hand.

This is so clearly a racial issue. Those that deny it (and I mean all if you) cannot all be ignorant to the sort of social psych pressures that lead to racist behaviour, cannot be ignorant to the 'cultural' racism inherent in white australia and the growing tolerance for racist attitudes over the last 10 years. It is utterly implausible. Actually, when you add up all those effects, the null hypothesis is that booing is racist it becomes your job to disprove it. All the forces at work make racist motivations the most likely state. Your job is to prove it isn't. And you can't.

Lot's of players are unpleasant or easy to dislike. They don't get booed. Goodes does. Join the dots and man up the lot of you.

Agree 100%. Well said. Not sure I agree with the null hypothesis analogy. Are you a closet frequentist:) ?

[The team we love 416]

Frawley's done his pec/shoulder again.

[chook fowler 19,459]

Frawley's done his pec/shoulder again.

Diddums

[dees189227 12,394]

shoulder dislocation for chip apparently. He did the injury in r2 against the dons as well. Just hope the hawks can run over thew top of them. Bummers holding it together so far.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Frawley's done his pec/shoulder again.

It was his shoulder, strange injury because it seemed to just pop out while he was in the air without any contact. Very unlucky.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Many players do exactly what Goodes does onfield (boomer harvey for one) and NEVER get booed.

Harvey never gets booed?

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

Harvey never gets booed?

I throw sh!t at my TV when harvey appears

Genuine dislike

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Scores level late in the second.....bummers getting better or hawks getting worse??

[dees189227 12,394]

roughead 3 behinds. Come on.

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

Who do i want to lose?

Whorethorn: lose this and a 3peat is almost impossible

Essendrug: Lose because they are Karmichael Hunt Cheats

Bloody tough decision to make.

[John Crow Batty 8,871]

Unlike us, Essendon are not spooked by the Hawks.

[Sir Why You Little 37,046]

Unlike us, Essendon are not spooked by the Hawks.

Oh yes. Whorethorn have smashed us up since the early 70's

We have won sparingly (hung on)

Would be the ultimate to give them a dry root smashing in September....Bitter but Oppromistic!!

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Oh yes. Whorethorn have smashed us up since the early 70's

We have won sparingly (hung on)

Would be the ultimate to give them a dry root smashing in September....Bitter but Oppromistic!!

With Watts to goal after the siren, after a push in the back from Frawley..

[SaberFang 7,151]

Gotta love how the media spent the entire week not only telling Essendon they needed to pull their fingers out, but even mapped out entire strategies for how to rattle and beat the Hawks.

Robbo was especially shameless on 360 when he had Lewis and Goddard on, basically telling Goddard the entire plan to throw the Hawks off.

Amazing how 17 other teams don't get that kind of red carpet treatment from the media.

[Young Dee 1,303]

With Watts to goal after the siren, after a push in the back from Frawley..

I think you meant Hogan lines up for his tenth after the siren