Communicating time left to players

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,799]

The debacle last Sunday proved that the archaic method of telling players how much time is left needs to be updated.

It's important players know how much time is left at the day of every quarter, not just the last.

For example, I find it frustrating when there's only 10 sec to go in a quarter, and our player has the ball in the clear around the centre. He looks up, sees no good option upfield, so goes back or sideways rather than bombing. The siren sounds, and an opportunity is lost.

Normally players don't bomb it, since there's a danger it'll "slingshot" back. But with no time to go,there's no downside to roosting it to full forward(even if Hogan has three players on him.)

Another time it's vital to know how much time is left is when a player has a mark or a free with only a few seconds left. If he wants to play on (say to reduce the angle of a shot for goal), he has to do it quickly.

One way of keeping the players informed would be a "traffic light" system from the bench with, say, a bright greenLED light for 2 min left, orange for 30 sec, and a red for 10 sec..........or some variation of this.

What do others think?

[monoccular 17,443]

A countdown clock on the scoreboard would work.*

However it would be the same for both competing teams, so really could it help us more than anyone else?

But would it be "good for the game"?

Discuss.

* I would see a lot of merit in this for the "Matthew Lloyd rule" for set shots at goal. At present the maggots just guess most of the time, and it varies from player to player and team to team.

Edited June 18, 2015 by monoccular

[Lucifers Hero 40,005]

Simple: send the runner to the captain.

If the runner is busy send a trainer to give the captain some water (and a message from the bench ).

Or make a rotation with the coaches message.

Time of message varies in the last 5 minutes depending on state of play.

It isn't just minutes left to be communicated but also any coaching directions/tactics.

Telling them # minutes left isn't enough ie Cross knew on Sunday there were 41 sec left.

Edited June 18, 2015 by Lucifer's Hero

[monoccular 17,443]

Simple: send the runner to the captain.

If the runner is busy send a trainer to give the captain some water (and a message from the bench ).

Or make a rotation with the coaches message.

Time of message varies in the last 5 minutes depending on state of play.

It isn't just minutes left to be communicated but also any coaching directions/tactics.

Telling them # minutes left isn't enough ie Cross knew on Sunday there were 41 sec left.

I wasn't at the game but heard that our runner was on the field already: couldn't be called back to bench then out again in time.

Still, if on field leaders were good enough / accustomed to winning enough then they would have a feel for the situation and remedied it.

I just cannot see for example Selwood or Mitchell, Hodge not making a call themselves. Big difference is team confidence and also remembering/ knowing how to win.

Edited June 18, 2015 by monoccular

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

We could always try asking the opposition players, they sure seemed to know what was going on......"Tally ho old chap, just wondered if you knew what the ruddy time was!??"

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

The debacle last Sunday proved that the archaic method of telling players how much time is left needs to be updated.

It's important players know how much time is left at the day of every quarter, not just the last.

For example, I find it frustrating when there's only 10 sec to go in a quarter, and our player has the ball in the clear around the centre. He looks up, sees no good option upfield, so goes back or sideways rather than bombing. The siren sounds, and an opportunity is lost.

Normally players don't bomb it, since there's a danger it'll "slingshot" back. But with no time to go,there's no downside to roosting it to full forward(even if Hogan has three players on him.)

Another time it's vital to know how much time is left is when a player has a mark or a free with only a few seconds left. If he wants to play on (say to reduce the angle of a shot for goal), he has to do it quickly.

One way of keeping the players informed would be a "traffic light" system from the bench with, say, a bright greenLED light for 2 min left, orange for 30 sec, and a red for 10 sec..........or some variation of this.

What do others think?

Got to be time to put a countdown clock on the scoreboard. Why should the ones on the field be the only ones not to know how much time is left?

[old dee 23,801]

Got to be time to put a countdown clock on the scoreboard. Why should the ones on the field be the only ones not to know how much time is left?

Now you should know the answer to that R and B Being the learnered man that you are.

It is all about tension for the TV audience and we all know TV runs the game

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

Now you should know the answer to that R and B Being the learnered man that you are.

It is all about tension for the TV audience and we all know TV runs the game

TV runs the game alright, but they can see the countdown clock, and have the commentators talk about it. Not much tension there that I can see ...

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Maybe the runner could go around at the 25 min mark and insert a few brains in vacant Melbourne skulls. Take a bucket around to carry them in, maybe use a large cream scoop.

[old dee 23,801]

TV runs the game alright, but they can see the countdown clock, and have the commentators talk about it. Not much tension there that I can see ...

Yes but the audience know the players do not know

Last Sunday we were all [censored] blue lights because we knew the players did no know how close it was to the end.

[WhyAlwaysMe 237]

what about an electric shock devise connected to a GPS that goes of if your standing in the wrong spot?

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

Yes but the audience know the players do not know

Last Sunday we were all [censored] blue lights because we knew the players did no know how close it was to the end.

True. However, that is the stupidity of it as far as I can see. The well-organised teams know because their bench tells them. However, it all seems archaic to me.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

what about an electric shock devise connected to a GPS that goes of if your standing in the wrong spot?

Would probably have started a bloody great bushfire last Sunday ...

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Well we certainly weren't doing this:

http://www.saints.com.au/video/2015-06-17/exclusive-coaches-box-audio-round-11

[old dee 23,801]

True. However, that is the stupidity of it as far as I can see. The well-organised teams know because their bench tells them. However, it all seems archaic to me.

Now there lies the problem R and B the MFC failed at a critical point.

We have all seen constant failure in all areas for a decade.

This year we thought we were doing better

We obviously had not improved as much as much as we thought.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

what about an electric shock devise connected to a GPS that goes of if your standing in the wrong spot?

Nailed it b.

[Deestroy All 14,266]

Bullhorn. 3 hoots for a minute, 2 hoots for 30 seconds. If we're losing badly no one gives a hoot.

Or laser pens. Green for 1 minute, red for 30 seconds.

Ravens?

The announcer could "accidentally" cough over the loud speaker at home games or hit the AC/DC tolling bells with a minute left.

I got ideas for days. Hit me up MFC if you wanna pay me for innovations.

[deanox 9,945]

Now you should know the answer to that R and B Being the learnered man that you are.

It is all about tension for the TV audience and we all know TV runs the game

Nothing to do with the tv audience. It's all to do with the stadium audience.

It is the way the game has always been played and it doesn't need to change.

[Je Roos Salem 661]

Wasn't there two runners allowed up until a couple of years ago?

If the AFL hadn't changed that we probably would've been able to get the message and won

[dee-luded 2,959]

We could always try asking the opposition players, they sure seemed to know what was going on......"Tally ho old chap, just wondered if you knew what the ruddy time was!??"

ah, excuse me mr reiwoldt;.... do you have the time???

[Bigred 494]

I see in the injury report Dave Misson has a sports 'apple i watch'

Maybe he's trialling the 'vibrate with 60 seconds' left in the game function??

Couldn't hurt?

[Machsy 2,858]

Bullhorn. 3 hoots for a minute, 2 hoots for 30 seconds. If we're losing badly no one gives a hoot.

Or laser pens. Green for 1 minute, red for 30 seconds.

Ravens?

The announcer could "accidentally" cough over the loud speaker at home games or hit the AC/DC tolling bells with a minute left.

I got ideas for days. Hit me up MFC if you wanna pay me for innovations.

They need some of what you've got.

Apparently Roos doesn't have the ability to innovate.

[Little Richard 6,265]

They need some of what you've got.

Apparently Roos doesn't have the ability to innovate.

'Apparently'!

[monoccular 17,443]

I see in the injury report Dave Misson has a sports 'apple i watch'

Maybe he's trialling the 'vibrate with 60 seconds' left in the game function??

Couldn't hurt?

Except that I am sure Missen knew anyway. It was the communication to those on the field that failed.

[ManDee 7,162]

Maybe the runner could go around at the 25 min mark and insert a few brains in vacant Melbourne skulls. Take a bucket around to carry them in, maybe use a large cream scoop.

Moonie one of the problems last week was it was a very short quarter. The first goal of the quarter was at 24min 46sec. Montagna's at 25min 49sec

I would have a megaphone on the boundary and shout at the players.