On 20/09/2015 at 10:35, AngryAtCasey said:

Ok, given some of the news today i'm going to give my best Prendergast impersonation, but much more optimistic this time!

Currently 6 senior list spots vacant.

Promote Vandenberg, Harmes, White

Delist but re-rookie M. Jones & Terlich

Trade Toumpas, Pick 6 & Pick 43 to Port for Harlett, Pick 29 & Pick 65.

Trade Howe to Gold Coast for Gorringe & Pick 19.

Trade Grimes & Pick 19 to Hawthorn for (what i suspect will be) Pick 16.

Trade Pick 29 to Essendon for Melksham.

Pick up Dangerfield as a free agent. 9mill over 6 years.

Delisted free agents: Cameron Giles & Daniel Markworth.

National Draft Pick 16: Mitchell Hibberd

Pick 25: Kurt Mutimer

Rookie Draft: Jack Watson

I'll play. If AAC's offseason came to fruition, round one 2016 could look like this:

FB: Jetta Dunn Garland

HB: Salem McDonald/Frost Lumumba

C: Hartlett Viney Vince

HF: Petracca Frost/McDonald vandenBerg

FF: Garlett Hogan Kent

R/R: Gawn Dangerfield Jones

I/C: Watts Tyson Brayshaw Melksham

Depth: Gorringe, Pedersen, Stretch, Harmes, Trengove, Dawes, O McDonald, White, Toumpas, Newton, Michie.

Alas, 0% chance of happening. If only it was that easy though

Edited September 20, 20159 yr by Scythe

  On 19/09/2015 at 21:37, Al said:

Im thinking your taking the pi££.

After all trades/draft have occurred, depending on who's brought in, some senior players who were once getting a game on a regular basis might find themselves as depth or even bottom ten on the list players.

People have bemoaned the likes of Michie/Newton/Riley coming to the club. But if they're only given two year deals it can't hurt to use 2-3 spots on the list for fringe players at other clubs because everyone now and then you find one. The key is limiting them to two years unless the show something.

agreed & keeping NQR's on the list for too long, hurts the list, as those players not on the UP, then get stale; & this hurts the atmosphere & culture around the club... so freshening it up, even with a change of depth players helps stop the rot.

G

Sorry for the typoday all. This is a very drunken message from bali. But I will tell you what I heard tonight. Ollie wines had his heart set on coming to Melbourne. Todd viney rang him 2 days our from the draft to tell him we were not going to pick him. Basically was told we wanted to pick him but we're not sure if we could let Toumpas slide. Ollie was gutted at the time amd for 18 months after. He won't leave port for anyone now as in his words it turned out for the best for him. I can not answer if it was Todd or neeld who said let him slide, my understanding is it was neeld as Todd called Ollie to tell him prior to the draft. The rumour out of port adelaide is they do not expect Hamish hartlett to play there in 2016. He didn't turn up for the footy trip, apparently we offered a huge deal amd if it isn't us, it is sydney.

Ollie knows Jimmy Toumpas from underage level and he said Jimmy will be a seasoned afl player. As much as he initially hated not being picked by us, he understands that politics played there part, but I gathered that he won't leave port adelaide period. To.orrow the melbourne players arrive,

Sorry for typo. I'm drunk. But that's all I can give for now

  On 20/09/2015 at 20:05, Generation dee said:

The rumour out of port adelaide is they do not expect Hamish hartlett to play there in 2016. He didn't turn up for the footy trip, apparently we offered a huge deal amd if it isn't us, it is sydney.

Thanks for sharing GD. Sydney is interesting, they tend to get who they want and their first target is Luey - but they're restricted to 450K so it will make it hard for them, but maybe not impossible given their continued run of finals and the lifestyle on offer up there.

Thanks for sharing GD, enjoy Bali (sounds like you've made a good start!).

Thanks GD..

If only...

Thanks for the goss GD.

Wonder if I'm the only one who skipped all the Wines stuff and got straight to the Hartlett bit

If we land Hartlett I will be stoked.

Apparently Matt Crouch is the latest player that we've been linked with.

Saints and Tigers in as well. One club is supposedly offering big dollars (and it's not St Kilda).

Thanks Generation D

Love a drunken update or 2

Make sure you get the Demon boys ears and find out what you can find....

  On 21/09/2015 at 07:07, ChaserJ said:

Apparently Matt Crouch is the latest player that we've been linked with.

Saints and Tigers in as well. One club is supposedly offering big dollars (and it's not St Kilda).

I would have thought that the Tiges would rate Ben Lennon as highly as Matt Crouch, so I'd be surprised if they'd offered Crouch big bucks and let Lennon go.

Who said that the Saints aren't offering the big money? Just read the Adelaide BF forum, and a thread was started a month ago saying that the Saints had offered Crouch $400k.

  On 21/09/2015 at 07:07, ChaserJ said:

Apparently Matt Crouch is the latest player that we've been linked with.

Saints and Tigers in as well. One club is supposedly offering big dollars (and it's not St Kilda).

Matt Crouch?

If it was his older brother then i'd be a bit more excited, as even a half broken-down Brad Crouch has more flair than Matt.

Crouch would be interesting.

Don't really rate Crouch. Gets a heap of it, but is a horrible decision maker. His brother on the other hand...

Edited September 21, 20159 yr by Moneider96

I rate him as a good hard at it ball getter, he reads the ruck contests well but his kicking is all over the place at the moment. Do we need another hard inside mid?

Not really enthused on Matt Crouch to be honest. A great clearance player but his kicking ability is down there with the Terlichs and Bails of the footy world.

I read the trade rumour threads and that player 'x' is a 'ball getter' or 'hard at it' or 'a clearance machine' or 'is competitive' etc.

But I am not reading about any players that are fast, skillful or blessed with footy IQ

I hope that if we trade away Watts and Toumpas and Howe we find some players that give us some skill, IQ and outside run in their place..

  On 21/09/2015 at 09:14, rjay said:

I rate him as a good hard at it ball getter, he reads the ruck contests well but his kicking is all over the place at the moment. Do we need another hard inside mid?

That midfield needs talent - if like the Roos we are too heavy on inside mids - then we can find some outside players.

On the scale of 'problems to have' it's a step up from where we are...

  On 21/09/2015 at 07:51, Moneider96 said:

Don't really rate Crouch. Gets a heap of it, but is a horrible decision maker. His brother on the other hand...

That's pretty much where I sit with it, especially if we're offering ball park 400 p/a for him (unsubstantiated). Who knows, maybe we are playing a long game with Brad and starting by luring Matt?

  On 20/09/2015 at 20:05, Generation dee said:

G

Sorry for the typoday all. This is a very drunken message from bali. But I will tell you what I heard tonight. Ollie wines had his heart set on coming to Melbourne. Todd viney rang him 2 days our from the draft to tell him we were not going to pick him. Basically was told we wanted to pick him but we're not sure if we could let Toumpas slide. Ollie was gutted at the time amd for 18 months after. He won't leave port for anyone now as in his words it turned out for the best for him. I can not answer if it was Todd or neeld who said let him slide, my understanding is it was neeld as Todd called Ollie to tell him prior to the draft. The rumour out of port adelaide is they do not expect Hamish hartlett to play there in 2016. He didn't turn up for the footy trip, apparently we offered a huge deal amd if it isn't us, it is sydney.

Ollie knows Jimmy Toumpas from underage level and he said Jimmy will be a seasoned afl player. As much as he initially hated not being picked by us, he understands that politics played there part, but I gathered that he won't leave port adelaide period. To.orrow the melbourne players arrive,

Sorry for typo. I'm drunk. But that's all I can give for now

Considering your drunken state the post scrubbed up all right.

Toumpas can get stuffed.

Sydney?? Trade sanctions lifted....how convenient.

  On 20/09/2015 at 20:05, Generation dee said:

G

Sorry for the typoday all. This is a very drunken message from bali. But I will tell you what I heard tonight. Ollie wines had his heart set on coming to Melbourne. Todd viney rang him 2 days our from the draft to tell him we were not going to pick him. Basically was told we wanted to pick him but we're not sure if we could let Toumpas slide. Ollie was gutted at the time amd for 18 months after. He won't leave port for anyone now as in his words it turned out for the best for him. I can not answer if it was Todd or neeld who said let him slide, my understanding is it was neeld as Todd called Ollie to tell him prior to the draft

Farting idiots. FMD we've made some horrendous errors.

Too late now though.

  On 21/09/2015 at 11:12, DemonOX said:

Farting idiots. FMD we've made some horrendous errors.

It's the draft ... comes with the job, and it's the same for all clubs.

  On 21/09/2015 at 09:27, Lucifer said:

I read the trade rumour threads and that player 'x' is a 'ball getter' or 'hard at it' or 'a clearance machine' or 'is competitive' etc.

But I am not reading about any players that are fast, skillful or blessed with footy IQ

Given what we've experienced across this season (especially the latter part), I'd be making "competitive" the first requirement.

No point being fast, skilful and blessed with a footy IQ if you only use it every other week, or 3 out of 4 quarters.

Please get drunk and post more often Gen Dee!

Geez the benefit of hindsight. Who the hell would we have taken with pick 4 if given the choice now? Wines. Macrae or Stringer?

Fairly sure if Roos was around a year earlier then Wines would've been the exact archetype of midfielder he loves.

Edited September 21, 20159 yr by Lamashtu

  On 21/09/2015 at 11:53, Lamashtu said:

Geez the benefit of hindsight. Who the hell would we have taken with pick 4 if given the choice now? Wines. Macrae or Stringer?

Fairly sure if Roos was around a year earlier then Wines would've been the exact archetype of midfielder he loves.

Yep. Although Stringer's coming along pretty nicely too.