The only way out of this mess is continuing turmoil and board upheaval,continued drafting of spuds,sacking of coaches and constant kneejerk reactions.

That's the long term reality theynow face.

I really feel for them.

In, fact I'm feeling really happy for them to be livin' the Blues.

Mick was very gracious to the press during his exit - bet he's looking for a gig.

I hear he's the biggest tight arse in football.

Mick was very gracious to the press during his exit - bet he's looking for a gig.

I hear he's the biggest tight arse in football.

Silence might be part of the pay out deal cf.

even said nice things about the media

he's a monty to get a lucrative job in the media if he can keep spilling the dirt

he'll land on his feet no worries

Well, I'm glad it's a while until we play the Blues. Give them a chance to settle down again and get past the boost of a new coach.

even said nice things about the media

he's a monty to get a lucrative job in the media if he can keep spilling the dirt

he'll land on his feet no worries

Yeah - I suppose he needs a quid.

They should appoint Mark Neeld immediately. He was great at Collingwood. Carlton have a strong history of getting ex Pies.

Daisy Thomas will be feeling a bit lonely tonight....

Any of their crap demoralised, soft ,disillusioned ,weak players we might need to top up our list,from that pathetic bunch or is that just predatory thinking?

They wont cost much.

Daisy Thomas will be feeling a bit lonely tonight....

I'm pretty sure the 750k he's on a year will keep him warm.

They should appoint Mark Neeld immediately. He was great at Collingwood. Carlton have a strong history of getting ex Pies.

Yes, the Malthouse endorsed protégés, Neeld, McKenna and Watters have all been great successes.

Wouldn't think we'll see Malthouse on a coaches selection panel any time soon.

Carlton need to change their constitution to prevent anyone called Mathieson or Pratt and anyone related to them by blood or marriage being ineligible for election. The perception of the average Carlton fan is that the Pratts and Mathiesons effectively control the club. It is possible that any moneys they donate to the club are more than matched by the hit to revenues from supporters not engaging with the club through memberships, match attendances, merchandise and functions because they feel alienated by their club effectively being in the control of 2 billionaire families.

The Australia Post and PWC CEOs must wonder why they joined such a dysfunctional board. They should sack the rest and start again with these 2.

Still the appointment of Silvagni is a positive. He has seen life outside the poisonous Carlton culture and should have an imprimature to build for the long term. But we know how long a rebuild can take when you've hit rock bottom and have a mediocre list. When you look at their list there is not much beyond Cripps, Docherty, Yarran, Menzel, Bell and maybe Jacksh to build on. Silvagni is already limited in his trade options if Murphy and Gibbs can't be traded. Leaves Henderson really is their only way to unlock a first rounder which he could do as a Centre Half Back. Yarran could also be traded given he is a free agent end of 2016 but he'd have to agree and a suitor would have to really want him a year early to pony up a first rounder.

Carlton need to change their constitution to prevent anyone called Mathieson or Pratt and anyone related to them by blood or marriage being ineligible for election. The perception of the average Carlton fan is that the Pratts and Mathiesons effectively control the club. It is possible that any moneys they donate to the club are more than matched by the hit to revenues from supporters not engaging with the club through memberships, match attendances, merchandise and functions because they feel alienated by their club effectively being in the control of 2 billionaire families.

The Australia Post and PWC CEOs must wonder why they joined such a dysfunctional board. They should sack the rest and start again with these 2.

Still the appointment of Silvagni is a positive. He has seen life outside the poisonous Carlton culture and should have an imprimature to build for the long term. But we know how long a rebuild can take when you've hit rock bottom and have a mediocre list. When you look at their list there is not much beyond Cripps, Docherty, Yarran, Menzel, Bell and maybe Jacksh to build on. Silvagni is already limited in his trade options if Murphy and Gibbs can't be traded. Leaves Henderson really is their only way to unlock a first rounder which he could do as a Centre Half Back. Yarran could also be traded given he is a free agent end of 2016 but he'd have to agree and a suitor would have to really want him a year early to pony up a first rounder.

I could see Yarran at Hawthorn, I can also see Hawthorn coughing up a first rounder for him.

Little Johnny was in class and the teacher asked him what his dad did on weekends.

LJ=Dad dances nude in all mens club and if he doesnt make enough money he sells his body to men to cover our bills.

Teach=leave the room now.

Teacher goes outside and asks johnny if its all true.

Nah replies johnny,dad plays for carlton on the weekends,but we are to embarrassed to tell anybody.

Come in spinner. Took Barassi off us by stealth. Bought premierships. The 2002 salary cap schemozzle. Elliott. Bringing in a peeved Malthouse and Daisy to win a premiership. It's taken a long time, and i hope it's a long time near the bottom for the good old navy blues. ps good song though.

Any of their crap demoralised, soft ,disillusioned ,weak players we might need to top up our list,from that pathetic bunch or is that just predatory thinking?

They wont cost much.

Yarran and Gibbs are probably their most worthwhile players.

I think we could possibly get a year or two out of Armfield as well as a decent outside running depth player.

I also wonder if there is anything left to salvage of Kreuzer. What could he do if someone got his body sorted out?

Carlton need to change their constitution to prevent anyone called Mathieson or Pratt and anyone related to them by blood or marriage being ineligible for election. The perception of the average Carlton fan is that the Pratts and Mathiesons effectively control the club. It is possible that any moneys they donate to the club are more than matched by the hit to revenues from supporters not engaging with the club through memberships, match attendances, merchandise and functions because they feel alienated by their club effectively being in the control of 2 billionaire families.

The Australia Post and PWC CEOs must wonder why they joined such a dysfunctional board. They should sack the rest and start again with these 2.

Still the appointment of Silvagni is a positive. He has seen life outside the poisonous Carlton culture and should have an imprimature to build for the long term. But we know how long a rebuild can take when you've hit rock bottom and have a mediocre list. When you look at their list there is not much beyond Cripps, Docherty, Yarran, Menzel, Bell and maybe Jacksh to build on. Silvagni is already limited in his trade options if Murphy and Gibbs can't be traded. Leaves Henderson really is their only way to unlock a first rounder which he could do as a Centre Half Back. Yarran could also be traded given he is a free agent end of 2016 but he'd have to agree and a suitor would have to really want him a year early to pony up a first rounder.

Silvagni might be tempted into a comeback ... :)

Take Daisy Thomas off their hands and get them to keep paying the bill.

Take Daisy Thomas off their hands and get them to keep paying the bill.

LOL. Funny, but I never even thought of him as a target.

even said nice things about the media

he's a monty to get a lucrative job in the media if he can keep spilling the dirt

he'll land on his feet no worries

some were calling for MnM to coach us about 2 - 3 years back.

no no no.

I could see Yarran at Hawthorn, I can also see Hawthorn coughing up a first rounder for him.

I an see Yarran @ Melbourne, as a Roosy special.

I'm pretty sure the 750k he's on a year will keep him warm.

Really?

Even Mr Hirds is on a million a year.

Malthouse did not fail Carlton, Carlton failed malthouse, i think mickey wanted to get back into coaching and prove Eddie wrong so bad, that he did not study the blues list closer enough, he believed what Carlton were telling him, that their list was close to a flag, in reality they were about to fall of the cliff.

Carlton are paying the price for tanking, the dodgy Judd Visy Ambassador deal and having The crook Richard 'Cartel' Pratt as their president.

Has anyone else heard that we are very very interested in Yarran?

Has anyone else heard that we are very very interested in Yarran?

We have now.