Time to ditch the Paleo.

[dazzledavey36 55,371]

I lost count how many times their bigger bodies simply shrugged us off with ease.. We look so much smaller and skinnier that even our jumpers look like they are all XL size.

It was worth a try at the start to get more miles into the legs but our midfield is just way too small to compete against the likes of Sydney and Freo.

Its simply not working. Must find a way this pre season to get bigger without losing the speed and indurance because atm we just look way too light.

[chookrat 4,268]

Maybe we could put them on the dim sum and Twinkie diet?

[dazzledavey36 55,371]

Maybe we could put them on the dim sum and Twinkie diet?

Could work

[jazza 1,323]

I believe BBO and Biff are on the paleo diet.

Thier results should give us a better understanding and whether to carry on with it or not.

[Young Dee 1,303]

I lost count how many times their bigger bodies simply shrugged us off with ease.. We look so much smaller and skinnier that even our jumpers look like they are all XL size.

It was worth a try at the start to get more miles into the legs but our midfield is just way too small to compete against the likes of Sydney and Freo.

Its simply not working. Must find a way this pre season to get bigger without losing the speed and indurance because atm we just look way too light.

I think you might be jumping the gun. For the first time I think our first/second years are actually bulking up.

Anyway I think you will find that a lot of clubs have actually now adopted the diet.

You don't need to be massive to lay a good tackle

[stuie 7,374]

They're not really on the paleo diet now, but a very modified individual version.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,994]

Just finished a 6 week paleo diet. Slightly modified to allow a protein shake with oats after the gym and low fat ricotta before bed.

Put on 5kg and lost 4% bf.

I did cardio 4 times a week plus 2 swimming sessions and a 4 weights sessions.

I obviously did nowhere near as much cardio as our guys but would have struggled on a pure paleo diet with their sort of training.

Carbs aren't the enemy, craved carbs after a workout the small amount of oats assisted with recovery and replenishing energy.

Edited May 10, 2015 by Ethan Tremblay

[stuie 7,374]

Just finished a 6 week paleo diet. Slightly modified to allow a protein shake with oats after the gym and low fat ricotta before bed.

Put on 5kg and lost 4% bf.

I did cardio 4 times a week plus 2 swimming sessions and a 4 weights sessions.

I obviously did nowhere near as much cardio as our guys but would have struggled on a pure paleo diet with their sort of training.

Carbs aren't the enemy, craved carbs after a workout the small amount of oats assisted with recovery and replenishing energy.

They're not on a pure paleo diet, never have been.

[M C 221]

Just finished a 6 week paleo diet. Slightly modified to allow a protein shake with oats after the gym and low fat ricotta before bed.

Put on 5kg and lost 4% bf.

I did cardio 4 times a week plus 2 swimming sessions and a 4 weights sessions.

I obviously did nowhere near as much cardio as our guys but would have struggled on a pure paleo diet with their sort of training.

Carbs aren't the enemy, craved carbs after a workout the small amount of oats assisted with recovery and replenishing energy.

Put on 5kg and lost 4% bf in 6 weeks? Great job if you're serious but i've never heard of someone doing that before. Means you put on about 8kgs of muscle in 6 weeks

[Ethan Tremblay 30,994]

They're not on a pure paleo diet, never have been.

No worries. My thoughts were they would have been too low on energy on a pure paleo diet.

Pete Evans loves the paleo and he looks like a POW.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,994]

Put on 5kg and lost 4% bf in 6 weeks? Great job if you're serious but i've never heard of someone doing that before. Means you put on about 8kgs of muscle in 6 weeks

I ate 7 smaller meals a day. Breakfast was a 6 egg omelette. Every second meal had brocolli and sweet potato and chicken breast. Obviously ate a lot and worked out heaps.

Edited May 10, 2015 by Ethan Tremblay

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Put on 5kg and lost 4% bf in 6 weeks? Great job if you're serious but i've never heard of someone doing that before. Means you put on about 8kgs of muscle in 6 weeks

Hot

[Ethan Tremblay 30,994]

Just giving the female DL'ers and Frosty Demon something to look at.

[picket fence 17,549]

I lost count how many times their bigger bodies simply shrugged us off with ease.. We look so much smaller and skinnier that even our jumpers look like they are all XL size.

It was worth a try at the start to get more miles into the legs but our midfield is just way too small to compete against the likes of Sydney and Freo.

Its simply not working. Must find a way this pre season to get bigger without losing the speed and indurance because atm we just look way too light.

Agree, so whatever the "Percieved" benefits of the Paleo clearly aren't working with our guys!

Would love to know what Nat Fyfe eats and his weight training regime!

[Moonshadow 17,677]

Just giving the female DL'ers and Frosty Demon something to look at.

A man taking headless selfies in a public toilet? Hmmmmm......

[Ethan Tremblay 30,994]

A man taking headless selfies in a public toilet? Hmmmmm......

It was the gym toilet. I didn't lock the door though...

[The Devil Inside 2,147]

I knew we would get some ridiculous topics after a loss, congratulations, this weeks winner, every player I have spoken to has said they are fitter and stronger, maybe we could find a better diet for their minds, coz that is where the problems are at the moment

Edited May 10, 2015 by The Devil Inside

[John Dee 445]

Cause and effect!!

There is no evidence whatsoever that suggests the low carb diet is the problem for our woes. Despite all of the moaning on this forum, we are actually playing better than last season. Whilst I do not therefore claim that this a direct result of the diet, it is certainly not evidence of a problem in the diet.

[Moonshadow 17,677]

It was the gym toilet. I didn't lock the door though...

Good for you Ethan. Hard to lock the door without a hand free. Mobile phones not permitted in the toilets or change rooms of my gym. Like you I still sneak one in but!

Edited May 10, 2015 by Moonshadow

[The Devil Inside 2,147]

Good for you Ethan. Hard to lock the door without a hand free. Mobile phones not permitted in the toilets or change rooms of my gym. Like you I still sneak one in but!

I assume you are talking about the phone

[sue 9,146]

Love the illogic of the paelo diet being somehow the natural human diet. For the last 10,000 years most people have lived off grains which led to a massive increase in human numbers. If you didn't perform well on that dominant food source you probably didn't produce many or any 20th century descendants. Natural selection has favoured humans who thrive on grains.

That's not to say it may be the wonder diet for some rare class of current humans, eg footballers and tiddly-wink players, but the benefits of paelo are hardly established by simply appealing to our pre-Neolithic past. Unfortunately it would be hard to do a double-bind test of players' diets.

[rjay 25,104]

I knew we would get some ridiculous topics after a loss, congratulations, this weeks winner, every player I have spoken to has said they are fitter and stronger, maybe we could find a better diet for their minds, coz that is where the problems are at the moment

TDI, seeing as you're the inside man could you ask the players if they are still on the version of the diet they were on late last year. I have heard from someone with supposed inside knowledge that they have gone away from the paleo diet.

[Chook 15,022]

Love the illogic of the paelo diet being somehow the natural human diet. For the last 10,000 years most people have lived off grains which led to a massive increase in human numbers. If you didn't perform well on that dominant food source you probably didn't produce many or any 20th century descendants. Natural selection has favoured humans who thrive on grains.

That's not to say it may be the wonder diet for some rare class of current humans, eg footballers and tiddly-wink players, but the benefits of paelo are hardly established by simply appealing to our pre-Neolithic past. Unfortunately it would be hard to do a double-bind test of players' diets.

Neolithic diets are great at keeping you alive long enough to have lots of babies. It's not great at making you the healthiest you can be.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,511]

The last two weeks we have been physically dominated by mature bodies in the opposition midfields. Take out Daniel Cross from our team and our average age plummets. When you have a midfield with players 25-28yo, you can overpower a young midfield regardless of your diet.

Also, the amount of blocking and shepherding work that Freo did in particular, is knocking our inexperienced players off and away from the ball as there is contact when they're not expecting it. The physical pressure that these team apply cannot be prepared for in a gym.

Our guys would have learnt a lot this week and last about how to play as a physical, high pressure and intensity team.

Until they understand this, they'll look like children vs men.