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It was obvious last night and in previous games, that we don't handball properly.

We belt handballs to team mates as hard as we can, making it impossible for the receiver to take the ball and then play on. The idea of a good handball, is to make it easy for the receiver to take possession.

Somebody needs to teach these guys the correct way to handball to a team mate who is a few metres away.

It will improve our chances of retaining possession and lead to more scoring.

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Good point. We need to learn to handball to where they're going, not to where they've been.

But it's something we're still learning. For years, we've mainly handballed to stationary targets, not to moving ones.

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Good point. We need to learn to handball to where they're going, not to where they've been.

But it's something we're still learning. For years, we've mainly handballed to stationary targets, not to moving ones.

That's a tricky thing. Sometimes a player can handball too far in front of their team-mate. Lumumba did this a few times last night. I think a bit of that is part of us not playing together all that much. The more we do it, the better we will become at anticipating where team-mates will be and how fast they can get there.

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There are many skills in football. Each player has a set of skills and weaknesses. Exercising these with an oval ball extreme pressure and particularly on a wet field is harder than the comfort of your lounge room couch. Plenty of mistakes last night particularly in the first half but we kept recovering enough for a comfortable win. Time to celebrate the sublime skills a Salem, the excitement of hogans markings, brayshaws maturity, JKH elusive agility, VDBs brutality and skill (wait till he has a summer of training) the untiring dominance of TMcD. All make mistakes but the upside is now far outweighing the down

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Also. ..handballing isnt always the preference. Seems some just get ball handball ball....no thinking...no awareness

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There are many skills in football. Each player has a set of skills and weaknesses. Exercising these with an oval ball extreme pressure and particularly on a wet field is harder than the comfort of your lounge room couch. Plenty of mistakes last night particularly in the first half but we kept recovering enough for a comfortable win. Time to celebrate the sublime skills a Salem, the excitement of hogans markings, brayshaws maturity, JKH elusive agility, VDBs brutality and skill (wait till he has a summer of training) the untiring dominance of TMcD. All make mistakes but the upside is now far outweighing the down

Fully agree. It's far better to make a mistake trying to do the right thing - miss a 5m handball to a teammate accelerating away from a pack - than keep doing the wrong thing - handball to a stationary teammate. The mistakes will drop off the more we do it.

Last night they would have had another 5 or 6 line breaking attacks at lightning speed if the handball had been nailed.

But it will certainly come.

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Especially early the handballing was poor. Glad someone has raised this post. Even jones missed a few easy handballs over a target. If we improve these basic skill errors we will improve much more.

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It was obvious last night and in previous games, that we don't handball properly.

We belt handballs to team mates as hard as we can, making it impossible for the receiver to take the ball and then play on. The idea of a good handball, is to make it easy for the receiver to take possession.

Somebody needs to teach these guys the correct way to handball to a team mate who is a few metres away.

It will improve our chances of retaining possession and lead to more scoring.

team confidence will sort this out.... its the team confidence that caused our over 100 point blowouts, lack of faith in one another collectively to get the job done. those blowouts then get into individuals psyche; & into the clubs.

as we become more accustomed to winning, & being competative, the belief will slowly come back as a club & a team structure.

individuals will grow in that team environment.


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Especially early the handballing was poor. Glad someone has raised this post. Even jones missed a few easy handballs over a target. If we improve these basic skill errors we will improve much more.

the mioore this quick hands get executed, the more will start to hit targets, & the more confidenc will grow.

when learning to take IT on, & have a go attacking, the better we will get at it. lets not mozz them, as they're starting to TRY......... its the TRYing that comes before the winning.

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There are many skills in football. Each player has a set of skills and weaknesses. Exercising these with an oval ball extreme pressure and particularly on a wet field is harder than the comfort of your lounge room couch. Plenty of mistakes last night particularly in the first half but we kept recovering enough for a comfortable win. Time to celebrate the sublime skills a Salem, the excitement of hogans markings, brayshaws maturity, JKH elusive agility, VDBs brutality and skill (wait till he has a summer of training) the untiring dominance of TMcD. All make mistakes but the upside is now far outweighing the down

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When it comes to handballing we suffer from the following; handball too hard, handball too high, handball too low, handball to a stationary target. It's not as bad as it was a few years ago.

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Good shepherding fixes this.

certainly does...but also helps to be aware of the status of intended recipient :rolleyes:
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Still need a bit more smart running to make the handball flow. Lumumba the main culprit last night. Watts the man who shot out the most silky handballs I thought. A bit more vision wouldn't hurt, we missed a few simple ones to open runners.

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Still need a bit more smart running to make the handball flow. Lumumba the main culprit last night. Watts the man who shot out the most silky handballs I thought. A bit more vision wouldn't hurt, we missed a few simple ones to open runners.

One of Chunk's few mistakes was a hospital bandpass to Brayshaw that could have put him there.

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Nevertheless, our decision making and execution when it comes to both kicking and handball are substantially better now than they have been at any time in the past decade and on Friday night, apart from right at the beginning, we were far superior to Richmond in this area. Footballers need to be switched on and aware of the conditions and their opponents when executing the skills of the game and it usually comes with experience. That's why teams like the four who played last nights games are so good.

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Still need a bit more smart running to make the handball flow. Lumumba the main culprit last night. Watts the man who shot out the most silky handballs I thought. A bit more vision wouldn't hurt, we missed a few simple ones to open runners.

yes. One hesitates to mention on here how intelligent and composed and accurate and receivable and downright productive Watts' handballing is. But it is as good as it gets.

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There are many skills in football. Each player has a set of skills and weaknesses. Exercising these with an oval ball extreme pressure and particularly on a wet field is harder than the comfort of your lounge room couch. Plenty of mistakes last night particularly in the first half but we kept recovering enough for a comfortable win. Time to celebrate the sublime skills a Salem, the excitement of hogans markings, brayshaws maturity, JKH elusive agility, VDBs brutality and skill (wait till he has a summer of training) the untiring dominance of TMcD. All make mistakes but the upside is now far outweighing the down

These points you made in post #11 were made very similar to points made earlier in post #04. In fact I think that you were in complete agreement!


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Could do much worse than watching the way North/Port use the handball. I really like the way both of these sides release players into the open field ahead - sometimes it doesn't look perfect but it's pretty effective.

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It's a very simple skill. Particularly, in comparison to kicking. It's probably more about presence of mind.

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When it comes to handballing we suffer from the following; handball too hard, handball too high, handball too low, handball to a stationary target. It's not as bad as it was a few years ago.

tl;dr

The handballing isn't great.

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No knocks on the performance in total (how sweet it was!) but I think I noticed this too. A main factor seemed to be that receivers were getting into better positions - and moving! - and maybe as deliverers the boys hadn't quite caught up with this pleasant development. Looking at the point made in the OP, it would be interesting to get feedback from our training-watchers about amount and nature of handballing 'teaching', including in simulation (for the 'think quick' component)

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team confidence will sort this out.... its the team confidence that caused our over 100 point blowouts, lack of faith in one another collectively to get the job done. those blowouts then get into individuals psyche; & into the clubs.

as we become more accustomed to winning, & being competative, the belief will slowly come back as a club & a team structure.

individuals will grow in that team environment.

My big impression Friday night was that the whole team was far more coherent and knew and trusted their teammates far more than I have seen at MFC for a long time.

IMO that is a big contribution to our overall improvement

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My big impression Friday night was that the whole team was far more coherent and knew and trusted their teammates far more than I have seen at MFC for a long time.

IMO that is a big contribution to our overall improvement

trust is imperative, & also leaders who know how to Lead, but not crush fellow players.

the New structure off-field, is starting to show on the field. the admin' is in control under the action man. pj

on-field, Roosy has things under control, with his team of coaches & staff.

the team was ready for Hoges to come in, & for Salem to show his wares. Watts & Toumpas struggle, as they were introduced into & learn't somewhat from the pre-roos team, which was belted from pillar to post.

this side looks totally different as most of the past senior players have well gone from our list (thankfully) & the new boys are learning from different leadership. learning a better way.

its a breath of fresh air

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