2015 Demonland Banner (Round 1)

[Sir Why You Little 35,363]

I voted "other".

If you are going to put a mix of current and past players on the banner then I suggest you keep it to those who have achieved something meaningful. Our captain has, three time winner of the best and fairest (admittedly not against the strongest group of players) qualifies him.

Robbie has.

Jimmy has.

And David Neitz has. Unquestionably. Most number of games for our club. Most games as captain. Most goals for our club. A two time All Australian. Loyal in difficult times and just a ripping person. Many may not know but David received a career ending neck injury in round 5 2008 in the final year of his contract. As such he was entitled to something in the order of one years pay as compensation and of course his salary (contract) at that time was significant as he was captain. The cost of that compensation was the liability of the club and as we all know our financial position was poor at that time.

David declined the payment. It cost him many hundreds of thousands of dollars. He had been playing footy for all his life; his career and earning capacity was over and in all likelihood he would never earn that sort of money again. But for the good of the club and at significant personal disadvantage he passed on the money.

You'd go into battle with Neita knowing he'd always cover you. He's never received the recognition he's deserved IMO and now would be a terrific time to recognize his achievements and contribution - both on and off the field.

Without disrespect Paul Roos is a Jonny come lately as far as our club is concerned. Dom Tyson has achieved nothing by comparison (and I love him). And Lynden Dunn? Drafted in 2004 and has put together 139 games. Having Dunny up there would just remind me how poor we have been.

Let's recognize Neita, he deserves it.

Interesting words on Neita BB, i didn't realize he had turned down his compensation. Pity the last CEO didn't do the same.

I had a couple of Beers with Neita last summer and had a good chat about the MFC

He really regrets his 2000 GF performance. He didn't play well and didn't fly the flag for team mates as the captain should.

Neita is a club legend but he is a rung below the champion level over his whole career.

If only he had slotted that first one on GF day things may have been a lot different

And yes an absolute ripping bloke.

Still looked fit enough to play!!!

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,534]

I appreciate the sentiment behind Stynes and Flower being on the banner. But if any ex-players are going to be included, surely Ronald Dale Barassi should be there. In fact, the only three ex-players I'd have are the aforementioned.

If it's current personnel, I'd just have the Coach and the Captain (or co-Captains).

[old dee 23,256]

My idea was based on having a tribute year to Flower and Stynes with Captain added.

Simply that

IMO you have that three or go back to a group of people as in the past.

Wherever you try to draw a line there will always be somebody that is hardly done by.

[The Chazz 4,077]

My idea was based on having a tribute year to Flower and Stynes with Captain added.

Simply that

IMO you have that three or go back to a group of people as in the past.

Wherever you try to draw a line there will always be somebody that is hardly done by.

OD, there is no one hardly done by if you just have Jones. He's the official captain and official current club champion, he's the unofficial heart and soul of this team.

By leaving off Flower and Stynes, then RDB isn't hard done by, or Norm, or any ex-champion/legend of the Club.

Keep it simple, keep it current.

Nb. To be perfectly honest, even if it was Jones on his own, I'd barely look at it anyway. I just scroll straight down to the threads, so it's almost an irrelevant requirement for me.

[Demonland 66,987]

Um, Did you want to try that last sentence again?

Fixed. I blame auto-correct.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Good call on Nathan Jones.
I actually recon Peter Jackson should be on there, he is the true saviour of the club.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Good call on Nathan Jones.

I actually recon Peter Jackson should be on there, he is the true saviour of the club.

not yet he isn't

not by a long shot

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

not yet he isn't

not by a long shot

done, and continues to do everything he can behind the scenes. Now it's up to the players/coaches etc. to do the rest.

Edited January 29, 2015 by The Song Formerly Known As

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,025]

Jackson would have done numerous things for this club that most of us including me would have no idea of what they were. But thing I would bet on would be if not for Jackson Roos wouldn't even be at the club, an extension of that would be McCartney. Does he plan on leaving in two years when Roos does or is going to hang around because of the changes that are making us a better club.

Edited January 29, 2015 by Al's Demons

[daisycutter 28,728]

Jackson would have done numerous things for this club that most of us including me would have no idea of what they were. But thing I would bet on would be if not for Jackson Roos wouldn't even be at the club.

all true, but it's too early to pass judgement

[Sir Why You Little 35,363]

Jackson would have done numerous things for this club that most of us including me would have no idea of what they were. But thing I would bet on would be if not for Jackson Roos wouldn't even be at the club, an extension of that would be McCartney. Does he plan on leaving in two years when Roos does or is going to hang around because of the changes that are making us a better club.

I would also add China Southern Airlines as a major sponsor

Getting the Chinese to sign on the dotted line is a very slow process...but PJ nailed it.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,025]

all true, but it's too early to pass judgement

I was editing my post as you were replying DC.

I think yes and no, no because onfield results is what's considered to be the true test but yes because we've been able to get the likes of both Goodwin and McCartney who both would have had other offers and plan to be here after Roos goes.

[bjDee 1,249]

I chose 'other' and no new players.

I'd prefer to keep Robbie up there for this year as a tribute year.

Plus of the current players, only Chunk, at least to start with.

Plus the coach.

Jimmy, and others from our history or administration, I have no problem with, but I would prefer to keep it simple and minimalist.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I don't think Roos should be on there.

[Moonshadow 16,648]

Liking it so far with Jim and Robbie. New font looks good.

[DistrACTION Jackson 6,967]

Just put Peter Jackson up there.... legend

[Elusive Tunbridge 795]

I like the design with Jim and Robbie as ghostly presences. As for the rest of that banner, I'm much in favour of loading it with senior players and youngsters who have established themselves - e.g. Dom. Not sure about Roos - he's a legend, sure, but not a Melbourne legend.

And Demonland, really! How can Garlett expect anyone to spell his name correctly if you don't!

[AzzKikA 2,371]

I answered other, and i think Roos and Goodwin. Robbie, Jimmy, Jonesy, Roos and Goodwin.

DONE!

Close the topic.

[Demonland 66,987]

And Demonland, really! How can Garlett expect anyone to spell his name correctly if you don't!

To quote many Demonlanders when referring to the banner he will get his name spelled correctly when he earns it. (Joking obviously)

Can I blame auto correct?

[nutbean 8,837]

Can I blame auto correct?

yes you can.

auot corretc is always to blame.

[poita 3,759]

Just my opinion, but some strange ideas being raised here. Dunn and Jamar have been underwhelming for most of their careers and hardly provide an example of something to aspire to. I don't doubt Roos' commitment whilst he is here but, with a three year ceiling on his tenure, he will end up coaching less games than Bailey. He is hardly an icon of the club. And Jackson, for all his excellent work, has no place on the banner. Please keep it to the current and past greats of the club, those who have excelled over a long period of time.

[Elusive Tunbridge 795]

To quote many Demonlanders when referring to the banner he will get his name spelled correctly when he earns it. (Joking obviously)

Can I blame auto correct?

Why not? Everybody does.

[nutbean 8,837]

Just my opinion, but some strange ideas being raised here. Dunn and Jamar have been underwhelming for most of their careers and hardly provide an example of something to aspire to. I don't doubt Roos' commitment whilst he is here but, with a three year ceiling on his tenure, he will end up coaching less games than Bailey. He is hardly an icon of the club. And Jackson, for all his excellent work, has no place on the banner. Please keep it to the current and past greats of the club, those who have excelled over a long period of time.

Is it about length of tenure ?

It is too early to judge if Roos will be successful or not (although I am bullish on early indictations) but if he manages in three years to right what was a very leaky boat and put us on the path to success then I would have his face up on the banner every day of the week. The same goes for Jackson - too early to make full judgement on his work but I like his start a lot.

The entry of Jackson and Roos to this club cannot be downplayed. We stunk on ice before their arrival and we have just started to turn what was a rotting hulk around. If they are both only around for three years but set us up for sustained success I would not only have them on the banner - I would have them both as mods.

[hemingway 7,608]

Why not just Nathan Jones as the central figure.

Absolutely no disrespect to those that have recently departed, all of them were my favourite players at some stage in my childhood, but can we just start 2015 with just our current captain and club champion, and no departed champions on it? None of us will ever forget the legacy that Stynes and Flower left behind, but we need to move on. 2015 should be the year that change is obvious (it could be argued that it was obvious in 2014), it's time we look forward to the next chapter forward of this great club, not backwards.

I wouldn't be against a couple of background images of "in play" moments featuring some current team members.

Totally agree billy.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Why not just Nathan Jones as the central figure.

Absolutely no disrespect to those that have recently departed, all of them were my favourite players at some stage in my childhood, but can we just start 2015 with just our current captain and club champion, and no departed champions on it? None of us will ever forget the legacy that Stynes and Flower left behind, but we need to move on. 2015 should be the year that change is obvious (it could be argued that it was obvious in 2014), it's time we look forward to the next chapter forward of this great club, not backwards.

I wouldn't be against a couple of background images of "in play" moments featuring some current team members.

You know what, on second thought this is my vote. Lets look to the future not live in the past.