Changes vs Collingwood

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,752]

What I find hilarious is we have put the clip on the Club website, if he had connected, he would have got weeks

I guess that answers my question. If we had thought there was any chance of him being suspended, I presume we wouldn't have included the clip (which I still haven't seen, by the way).

Which raises a different question. Why would we choose to put that specific clip on the website? Perhaps to show that we're prepared to give as good as we get? To boost Jamar's self esteem? To provide the younger players with confidence that the Big Russian will look after them? Curious.

[Satyriconhome 10,867]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2014-05-31/angry-jamars-freshair-swing

Why not post it, good on the Club I say

Edited June 2, 2014 by Satyriconhome

[DubDee 25,847]

Unavailable for the Pies; Maxwell, Sinclair, Lynch, Brown, Sidebottom. and some question marks over Swan and Grundy. Not sure ablout Reid, could he come back?

- Regardless of if Grundy plays, we should dominate the ruck.

- Cloke has been out of form (soft 2nd half goals on the weekend aside)

- they'll miss maxwell / Reid/ Brown. Dawes, Chip and Pedo should cause problems

- everyone talks about the PIe's depth but they are already playing a lot of kids so a couple more will stretch them

I reckon if we bring the high intensity game and our midfield fires, we will win this.

I'm way too fired up with 7 days to go til the game!!

[Machsy 2,858]

I'd keep Gawn in, stick with the theme of giving players an extended run.

I also think Dawes' presence in the forward line helps Gawn a lot more than Frawley's does.

I'd bring in Dawes for Toumpas, then move Frawley back to defense.

Pedersen to stay forward and work through the middle.

Grimes, Garland and Jetta to push into the middle a little bit more at times.

Toumpas I don't think is quite ready for an extended run in the 1s.

[DeeSpencer 25,679]

I'd keep Gawn in, stick with the theme of giving players an extended run.

I also think Dawes' presence in the forward line helps Gawn a lot more than Frawley's does.

I'd bring in Dawes for Toumpas, then move Frawley back to defense.

Pedersen to stay forward and work through the middle.

Grimes, Garland and Jetta to push into the middle a little bit more at times.

Toumpas I don't think is quite ready for an extended run in the 1s.

The thing about Frawley is I think it has to be a planned decision one way or another. You can't move him back this week then change your mind, or at least I don't think it would be wise to do that.

And I don't have confidence in Dawes, Pedo and Gawn as a trio. Too cumbersome.

Without Hogan or some dangerous more mature speedy small or medium forwards to give potency I think we need Frawley in the forward line. The other aspect of Frawley back would mean Dunn and Garland become 3rd and 4th tall and probably for balance Howe goes forward again. I'm not convinced about that yet either.

Gawn is a guy who still probably has a bit of work to do in reaching that consistent dominance in the VFL (particularly with his ruck work) so getting dropped isn't the worst for him. There's always the possibility that his next chance could come as the starting ruck as well.

[picket fence 17,144]

Gawn was poor last game! Prefer medium forward Kent if Fit??

Pigdog in ?? More in and under grunt?? Intriguing selections coming up!

FWIW I wouldn't mind betting Sam Blease comes in to add pace? Just a hunch!

[Ted Lasso 19,510]

Minimum unforced changes for mine, gawn for Dawes

[Machsy 2,858]

The thing about Frawley is I think it has to be a planned decision one way or another. You can't move him back this week then change your mind, or at least I don't think it would be wise to do that.

And I don't have confidence in Dawes, Pedo and Gawn as a trio. Too cumbersome.

Without Hogan or some dangerous more mature speedy small or medium forwards to give potency I think we need Frawley in the forward line. The other aspect of Frawley back would mean Dunn and Garland become 3rd and 4th tall and probably for balance Howe goes forward again. I'm not convinced about that yet either.

Gawn is a guy who still probably has a bit of work to do in reaching that consistent dominance in the VFL (particularly with his ruck work) so getting dropped isn't the worst for him. There's always the possibility that his next chance could come as the starting ruck as well.

I don't see why not.

Frawley knows how to play as a defender, that will never be an issue.

And we beat Richmond without Frawley up forward.

I think the other 3 will do alright.

[rpfc 28,384]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2014-05-31/angry-jamars-freshair-swing

Why not post it, good on the Club I say

They didn't post it - it's AFL content tied to us. If it has the emblem exploding or whatever it does before the video it's DeeTV, if it has the AFL logo at the end it is AFL content tied to us because it is a Melbourne round house that doesn't connect.

I am sure the club would not want to bother putting that up if it were their decision.

[Young Dee 1,303]

The thing about Frawley is I think it has to be a planned decision one way or another. You can't move him back this week then change your mind, or at least I don't think it would be wise to do that.

And I don't have confidence in Dawes, Pedo and Gawn as a trio. Too cumbersome.

Without Hogan or some dangerous more mature speedy small or medium forwards to give potency I think we need Frawley in the forward line. The other aspect of Frawley back would mean Dunn and Garland become 3rd and 4th tall and probably for balance Howe goes forward again. I'm not convinced about that yet either.

Gawn is a guy who still probably has a bit of work to do in reaching that consistent dominance in the VFL (particularly with his ruck work) so getting dropped isn't the worst for him. There's always the possibility that his next chance could come as the starting ruck as well.

Don't forget Watts.

I think if you throw in JKH and Kent it adds a bit but Dawes, Frawley and Gawn would probably work better - Not that Pedo isnt doing great its just Frawley is big, quick and agile making the forwad line less "cumbersome"

Pedo has shown he can play back - so he can be 4th defender behind Garland, McDonald and Dunn - add Howe, Terlich/Grimes and that should hold the filth at bay

Watts Dawes Kent

JKH Gawn Frawley

Would be a pretty tough forward line to match up on given that Frawley Watts and Dawes are tall, agile and quick. On top of that they need a tall for Gawn,

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[Vipercrunch 2,827]

I'd like to keep the same talls in the forward line that beat Richmond with Frawley up back and Grimes doing a negating role on one of their mids.

In: Dawes

Out: Toumpas (only got in because Jetta was sick)

Edited June 2, 2014 by S_T

[Nasher 33,613]

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2014-05-31/angry-jamars-freshair-swing

Why not post it, good on the Club I say

Heh. Looks like he meant that, and had a moment of clarity right in the nick of time. Would rightfully have had the book thrown at him if that had connected (and I would have been filthy with him).

[Young Dee 1,303]

I'd like to keep the same talls in the forward line that beat Richmond with Frawley up back and Grimes doing a negating role on one of their mids.

In: Dawes

Out: Toumpas (only got in because Jetta was sick)

Frawley down back?

I guess it depends on how strong Collingwoods forward line is - I guess we could just change it around in game to confuse Collingwood

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[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,752]

Heh. Looks like he meant that, and had a moment of clarity right in the nick of time. Would rightfully have had the book thrown at him if that had connected (and I would have been filthy with him).

In the end, no harm done. MRP findings are handed down and no mention of Jamar. But Sidebottom got his right whack and unless he contests (unlikely I would have thought) he'll be missing on QB.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,048]

Dawes in for someone. That's all I can see happening. So far this season Roos has shown a reluctance to make changes for changes sake and Casey's last game was pretty poor, so nobody there is really knocking the door down.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

I haven't seen the game but I understand Jamar had a "swing and a miss". is there any chance he could be suspended for "attempted striking" (does such an offence even still exist?)

I was listening to SEN last week and interestingly they were talking about this type of incident and said it was chargeable, perhaps they figured Russian never intended to hit him which he probably didn't.

If he didn't connect with that from that distance he wouldn't be much of a tap ruck , would he.

[Deestar3 167]

Roos just slipped in this comment on 360....."at some stage chip may go back "....this week against cloke maybe ?

[spirit of norm smith 16,442]

In: Dawes Kent/Riley (sub)

Out: Gawn Toumpas

[Ted Lasso 19,510]

If chip goes back I'd take that as a Sign we think he might stick around

Just my opinion

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

saw on news, Ball, Grundy and Swan back

[Akum 2,660]

Gawn was very very good in the ruck, all at sea as a forward.

For QB they need a quality forward rather than a quality ruck.

I'd say it's line ball whether Toump, Riley or even Kent get the job. All depends on whether Roos feels we need more class, more toughness or more speed against Pies. Reckon he'll go toughness, and that Riley is the type of player he loves.

[w00dy 146]

In: Dawes

Out: Gawn

I like the look of Toump as the sub, and think he may now get that role for a few weeks in a row like JKH and Salem did. So keep him in.

I think Frawley starts forward, but if Cloke even looks like getting on top of his opponent, then he needs to go back. Cloke is too strong for anyone in our back six at the moment, so if he looks threatening then I think Chip needs to take him. We can then switch either Dunn or Howe forward.

[Webber 10,465]

Gawn was very very good in the ruck, all at sea as a forward.

For QB they need a quality forward rather than a quality ruck.

I'd say it's line ball whether Toump, Riley or even Kent get the job. All depends on whether Roos feels we need more class, more toughness or more speed against Pies. Reckon he'll go toughness, and that Riley is the type of player he loves.

The reason Gawn was ineffective, particularly with his marking, is that he's making NO advantage of his height. He had a very odd method of dropping his body against his opponent, thinking he was keeping him off the ball, but just making it easier to spoil over the top. He doesn't trust his body strength yet, and becomes too passive on account. Stand tall and reach skywards Maxy. They can't get to you that way.

[Satyriconhome 10,867]

They didn't post it - it's AFL content tied to us. If it has the emblem exploding or whatever it does before the video it's DeeTV, if it has the AFL logo at the end it is AFL content tied to us because it is a Melbourne round house that doesn't connect.

I am sure the club would not want to bother putting that up if it were their decision.

I am afraid they did, they pick up content from a few places, but it is only the MFC media team who can post to MFC site

[Satyriconhome 10,867]

Gawn was poor last game! Prefer medium forward Kent if Fit??

Pigdog in ?? More in and under grunt?? Intriguing selections coming up!

FWIW I wouldn't mind betting Sam Blease comes in to add pace? Just a hunch!

Blease - hasn't played for 2 weeks coming off a poor game, snowball in hell's chance..........sorry rephrase that, think he played in praccy game against Sandringham last Friday, believe Casey beaten again...so probably still snowball

Edit praccy game

Edited June 2, 2014 by Satyriconhome