The Jack Viney bump that never was!

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I wonder if Adelaide kicked up a stink.

It's the same scenario when Trenners tackled "glass jaw" Dangerfield. Sore losers Adelaide made a big deal,

Trenners gets 3 weeks and hasn't been the same since. Dangerfield excels the next round, so much for his concussion

as shown on the doctors report. What's with that club.

Thanks for reminding me. That was another disgrace. You would have thought Dangerfield was dead the week before the next game.

And you can bet your life that if it was an expansion club the outcome would be different. I feel myself getting mighty pieced off as I write this because I do think there are two sets of rules.

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Referring it is better than applying the MRP's system - it would have meant fighting a 3 or 4 week charge.

Now he can have a chance to get off as the contact was incidental to him going for the ball.

I'm not holding my breath though - this stuff happens in footy but is a look they don't like to see. They would like Viney to not bother with the ball in that instance.

Lynch braces himself and this is not something we talk about and he doesn't have a broken jaw.

Players need to learn to protect themselves.

Right on the money 'rpfc', so many players go in wide open these days it's not funny. We were always taught to turn the body to protect yourself, I would rather do that than let the rule book be my protection. It's not much use when someone is running straight at you. Viney did it the right way, Lynch wrong.

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I think Lynch should be suspended for injuring himself and Georgiou with a head clash.

Was Viney's bump shoulder to shoulder?

Did Viney's head clash in to Lynch?

If the answer to both those questions is no then it doesn't matter that Lynch's head hit Georgiou's. That's footy.

We need the super slow mo camera to work out if Viney made the contact to Lynch or if it was the ensuing head clash that caused the damage. Viney shouldn't be held accountable if his bump was clean.

Vineys shoulder hit Lynch's Jaw, after sliding past the shoulder to shoulder contact, BUT the contact to Lynch's jaw was minimal (un-reportable free kick only) as the force momentum was already taken body to body. It was the recoil of Lynch's head toward Georgiou's head, & the oncoming Georgiou that made the big head clash & injuries.

IMO it was Lynch pulling his head back away & his body's momentum moving back, after Viney's body hit his that created the head clash with Georgiou.

I think we'll be missing Georgiou, Frawley, & Viney next match. as silly as that sounds.

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Right on the money 'rpfc', so many players go in wide open these days it's not funny. We were always taught to turn the body to protect yourself, I would rather do that than let the rule book be my protection. It's not much use when someone is running straight at you. Viney did it the right way, Lynch wrong.

Yeah.....nah.

Since the bump by Gia on Kossie, the rules have changed.

Duty of care.

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If they give weeks for this incident, to my mind the AFL is saying that they are effectively wanting a type of player to play the game and, more importantly, phasing out an entire tradition. RJay, you were spot on. We were taught how to ride a bump or turn away at the moment of contact. Lynch had no awareness of the situation presenting. I am sorry for his injury but sheesh.

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Yeah.....nah.

Since the bump by Gia on Kossie, the rules have changed.

Duty of care.

Duty to care for yourself first.

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In motor racing, this would be called a 'racing incident'

As in it is something that is no ones specific fault and is a consequence of the way the sport is played

Edited May 5, 2014 by trenners_09

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Yeah.....nah.

Since the bump by Gia on Kossie, the rules have changed.

Duty of care.

Talking of no peripheral awareness. Shite, the bloke head butted about 5 goal posts by himself

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Duty to care for yourself first.

I understand, but different era...

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I understand, but different era...

Jumbo, my issue is that he did not leave the ground and there was certainly no intent.

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Interesting to hear the AFL's reasoning for clearing Josh Kennedy on Colin Sylvia in 2010.

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Is there a possibility the referral is to allow the AFL to save face? and not penalise as a special case?

It is head high damage, but certainly not clear cut as and when or who caused the damage due to the ricochet and three party involvement .

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That would confuse the players

that could work : the bulldogs might be butt sniffing & chasing tail all game...

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Great tweet from @TitusOReily:

Jack Viney has been referred straight to the tribunal for 'playing football.'

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Check out this tweet -

Cam Mooney ‏@cam_mooney 3h

Our game will forever change if Viney gets wks for his clean bump.... Can't believe it's gone this far... AFL pls have common sense on this

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Fantastic bump.

Really hope they grow a brain and throw it out, and the reason it's been referred directly is so that they don't automatically assign the incident 5 weeks based on their stupid report qualifiers and he'd have to fight to get the charges dropped instead of argue his case.

.. yeah right.

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Jon Ralph ‏@RalphyHeraldSun 2m

MRP refers 2 tribunal when tick-the-box approach fails to cater to circumstances. Viney referral is the right thing. Now tribunal must clear

Jon Ralph ‏@RalphyHeraldSun 1h

Time for the Melbourne players to start tweeting to free Viney. The head bump rule wasn't brought in for the old snooker cannon of the head

Jon Ralph ‏@RalphyHeraldSun 1h

Time for the Melbourne players to start tweeting to free Viney. The head bump rule wasn't brought in for the old snooker cannon of the head

Edited May 5, 2014 by dees189227

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Lynch's evidence may be something like

"I wath approthing the fooball when I thaw Viney coming and then I thaw oh thit and then I don't remember anything"

I hope he has learnt from his big mistake.

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Interesting to hear the AFL's reasoning for clearing Josh Kennedy on Colin Sylvia in 2010.

The difference is that Lynch had just taken control of the ball (so Viney could have theoretically tackled him as well) and was put in a vulnerable position by Georgiou's tackle, which pushed him forwards into Viney.

I personally think it should have been 'play on' as the umpire called in on the field and a shame but tough luck for the broken jaw.

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Interesting to hear the AFL's reasoning for clearing Josh Kennedy on Colin Sylvia in 2010.

CB, I'm [censored] off enough as it is. Reading that will send me to apoplexy.

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We seem to have the support of everyone but the mugs who run the MRP. Do the right thing you muppets.

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Lynch's evidence may be something like

"I wath approthing the fooball when I thaw Viney coming and then I thaw oh thit and then I don't remember anything"

I hope he has learnt from his big mistake.

Hilarious. Needed that reality check.

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Its a sad day for football if he goes for that. I would like an explanation as to what a player is meant to do in that situation. The only options other than what he did would be not make the ball your objective or dont protect yourself whilst trying to make ball your objective.

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This is surely a hoax. Or are the tribunal just doing this to keep getting paid? I would say the majority of journo's and footy fans are on viney's side. Unless gill from the Simpsons is heading the defendant it should be thrown out.

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I'm with Jon Ralph. Seems to make sense. Usual head high stuff remains, but this wasn't usual at all. Get out of jail for all.