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5, 10, 7, 2, 2, 31, 5, 19, 2, 9, 1, 8, 26, 11, 4.

15 games, average winning margin 9.47.

Median result 7 points. 12 games under 12 points.

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They both make mistakes just like we do......but both these teams give 110 % effort for four quarters.

You would never see a pathetic effort like our second quarter yesterday from any of these two teams.

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They also move the ball so much quicker. Every player from Mitchell to Hill. The moment they take the mark they are looking for an option. They don't run backwards 10 metres, stop, turn around, and then assess.

Effort and confidence. Yes there are less skill errors, but it is the other two factors that are so pivotal.

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What stands out most, more than anything, is skill.

Players like Cheney are the exception for Hawthorn. They're unfortunately the norm at Melbourne.

Speed (both of the ball and by foot) is also a big factor. I'd have speed and skill above effort as stand out differences.

What was Clarkson thinking? Hawkins monstered him!

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What stands out most to me are Geelongs leaders.

MFC have a great leader in Nathan Jones, a few years too late - but that is another story.

Geelong have 6-7 guys that lead like Jones.. They have Selwood, Bartel, Johnson, Hawkins, Taylor, Kelly and Mackie, all leaders in their own right.

MFC have Nathan Jones, that is the difference.

We have Viney coming through and hopefully Hogan.

But.. We lack leaders, no doubt.

It's why Cross also stands out, Geelong is full of the those type of guys.

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What stands out most to me are Geelongs leaders.

MFC have a great leader in Nathan Jones, a few years too late - but that is another story.

Geelong have 6-7 guys that lead like Jones.. They have Selwood, Bartel, Johnson, Hawkins, Taylor, Kelly and Mackie, all leaders in their own right.

MFC have Nathan Jones, that is the difference.

We have Viney coming through and hopefully Hogan.

But.. We lack leaders, no doubt.

It's why Cross also stands out, Geelong is full of the those type of guys.

Add Dawes to that list Ding

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Port plays Geelong next week, in Adelaide. Should be a corker.

What was Clarkson thinking? Hawkins monstered him!

They're very undersized down back without Lake and Schoenmakers.

Their backline remains their weakness, and it's even worse than normal without those two. It's just that the rest of their side is so good, no one other than Geelong has been able to exploit it properly.

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What stands out most to me are Geelongs leaders.

MFC have a great leader in Nathan Jones, a few years too late - but that is another story.

Geelong have 6-7 guys that lead like Jones.. They have Selwood, Bartel, Johnson, Hawkins, Taylor, Kelly and Mackie, all leaders in their own right.

MFC have Nathan Jones, that is the difference.

We have Viney coming through and hopefully Hogan.

But.. We lack leaders, no doubt.

It's why Cross also stands out, Geelong is full of the those type of guys.

We need to develop a leader on EVERY line.....that's what the top teams have.

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